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  • xxxx
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1706

    Could someone please identify this O/U?

    Could someone please identify and possibly apprise this over and under Browning shotgun? I believe it is from the 70's, works flawlessly, no rust, in pretty good condition. A a skeet shooter friend of mine told me it was worth around $2000 a while back.











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    m1match
    Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 374

    That is a Belgian made Browning Superposed, one of the best O/U shotguns ever made in my opinion. I've never seen a band like the one on your lower barrel. Could that have been a repair to fix a damaged barrel?????

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    • #3
      Army
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 3915

      Ahh...can finally edit!

      I would presume the band was a base for a sling assembly.

      Hmmm. A closer look says ... no. Perhaps a way to regulate the lower?
      Last edited by Army; 12-17-2009, 12:56 PM.
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        xxxx
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 1706

        Originally posted by m1match
        I've never seen a band like the one on your lower barrel. Could that have been a repair to fix a damaged barrel?????
        It was left to me in from a old man I took care of that passed a while back. I have no idea what you are talking about with the band on the barrel, everything fits very snug and tightly and everything looks to be original. I would love more insight. But so far we have 2 conflicting models that were posted.

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          xxxx
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 1706

          I am going to examine the band, I see what you are talking about now. I don't know much about O/U shotguns. I will post in a few min.

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            xxxx
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1706







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            • #7
              m1match
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 374

              I have no idea what that metal band is. Look at the inside of the barrel, is there any kind of seam that you can see where that metal band is? It could have been built that way at the factory, I've just never seen one like it before.

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              • #8
                xxxx
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 1706

                Originally posted by m1match
                I have no idea what that metal band is. Look at the inside of the barrel, is there any kind of seam that you can see where that metal band is? It could have been built that way at the factory, I've just never seen one like it before.
                I looked down the barrel but did not see any visible seam, it looks factory to me.

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                • #9
                  m1match
                  Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 374

                  The band matches the rest of the gun. Whatever it is, you've got a very nice classic shotgun there.

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                    xxxx
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1706

                    Originally posted by m1match
                    The band matches the rest of the gun. Whatever it is, you've got a very nice classic shotgun there.
                    Any idea how much it's worth? I was told $2000-$3000.

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                    • #11
                      tzahoy
                      Member
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 449

                      The band is unusual, I've never seen one either. The solder joint between the barrels doesn't necessarily look factory to me either. It MAY have had some repair done on it at some time, maybe the barrels separated and were re joined and the band added for extra strength.

                      If it is a Belgian superposed, which it looks like it is, it should say made in Belgium on the barrels. You may have to remove the forend to see it.

                      In terms of value, I would start by doing a completed items search on gunbroker. You will see Belgian superposed Brownings selling from anywhere from $1k on up depending on condition.

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                      • #12
                        cudakidd
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 3223

                        Check blue book of gun values, Shotgun world forums, Gun Broker, GunsAmerica etc.

                        Pretty common shotgun, John Browning design and first O/U shotgun. Citori replaced it in the 70s.

                        It looks pretty worn from your photos, handling marks, dings, etc. I see rust or pitting also. Maybe about 80% condition. Depending on model about $750-1000.

                        You can go to Browning web site and look up model and year made from Serial number...

                        I'm a big browning fan, have Grade 5 and grade 6 citoris myself. Value is based on grade (yours appears grade 1), barrel configuration (full choke, trap, skeet set up etc, year of production etc.

                        Sorry to burst the bubble...
                        TURNING and turning in the widening gyre
                        The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
                        Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
                        Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
                        The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
                        The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
                        The best lack all conviction, while the worst
                        Are full of passionate intensity.

                        William Butler Yeats 1865-1939

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                        • #13
                          joepamjohn
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 2709

                          Originally posted by xxxx
                          Any idea how much it's worth? I was told $2000-$3000.
                          Good news first...Your gun looks older than the 70's based on the long lower tang I would guess late 50's to 60's. (Need serial number to be sure) It also has Skeet over Skeet chokes. (desirable combination)

                          Now the bad news...The gun condition based on the pictures you posted looks pretty rough and well used. The lug on the lower barrel is a concern too and the close up pictures you posted look like the barrels were refinished at some point if you look closely at the metal grain, and the center rail between the barrels does not look to be from the factory. The recoil pad looks to have been added at some point and does not look to be original either. All of these factors kill the value. A MINT Superposed will bring the dollars you are hoping for but the condition of yours is about in the $650.00 to $850.00 range (Max). If you posted it in the FS forum I would bet you would have a hard time selling it for any more than that. I would also bet it is somewhat loose in the locking mechanisim too from lots of shooting. Just telling it like it is.

                          Browning collectors are looking for high condition and sadly yours is lacking that. To top it off you can't shoot steel shot in it so anyone with $800.00 and up to spend will probably look more towards a Citori with screw in chokes and more condition. Clean it up, shoot it, and remember the family member who owned it. That is where the value is.

                          Sorry to break it to you but you did ask. Attached is a link of some Brownings for sale in the $1500.00 to $2000.00 price range (scroll down to the Superposed guns). Compare the condition of these to yours, and you will see what I am talking about.

                          Last edited by joepamjohn; 12-18-2009, 9:32 AM.
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