Livermore range

[tmorse]

I have been going to Livermore for more the 25 years. The rules have changed and I understand that for the most part. The facility has been improved and I enjoy going there. I have never had an issue and will continue. the RSO are good people and I appreciate the job they do.

... and the steel shoot they are working on is fun.

anyone remember RSO Alvin?

[BigPimping]

I went there once. Hot, dusty, in the middle of nowhere. Never again. I'll stick with my secret, plush, secluded pimp range.

[jtv3062]

I have left my Glock on top of the table at firing line at USI for 20/30 minutes before without fear of it not being there when I got from watching the action guys probably 15/20 years ago.

Ive been to Chabot, Sacramento valley, Davis st, Manteca, Yolo, USI, and Livermore before the closure have without problems.

The reopened (7 years ago) Livermore seems to have some major issues. So far from reading this new thread that Livermore has thieves, idiots, dont rub the rsos wrong or they will charge you to switch lanes limit you to 2 hours shooting and from personal experience issue you 1 table for your group.

[BrassCase]

The "No movement of guns or equipment during cease fire" is for your protection. I don't watch your stuff that is behind the cease fire line during cease fire, I watch the benches to make sure no one approaches them while we have people down range. Since I'm not watching your "Stuff" that is behind the line, what would stop someone from grabbing your things, even a cased rifle, and walking off with them while you are walking out to the 100 yd line? Nothing! You'd ask me "where's my stuff", I don't know, what's your stuff?

So the inconvenience is minor, people can come and go, just not stuff. If you plan it right you take your equipment to your car before cease fire and then you can grab your target and go during cease fire.

[G-Man WC]

Yea, when I'm at a public range nothing gets out of my sight.
Either the person I'm with or I have eyes on firearms, ammo, or gear.
Not that I distrust everyone, but feel that it's my obligation as a gun owner just in case. I've been to the Livermore range a few times and the in\out only at cease fire
seemed a bit strange but range rules are range rules and are different wherever you go.
No need in getting upset about IMO. Just makes it rough to change targets or pee!
-g

[fish45]

another reason is for "security" they dont want somebody walking off with another persons guns / gear , to prevent theft, people have been known to walk off with another persons firearm.

Thats a valid point but thats not an excuse for poor customer service. Somebody could walk off with your stuff during the walk in/ out period anyway. I'll just keep spending my money elsewhere to avoid the hassle.

[omega]

I don't think you understood my statement/ question. I do not understand their logic behind walking in and out of the range. During a cease fire as long as you are behind the firing line and not handling firearms or touching the bench during a cease fire period I do not understand why I cant walk in and out with spotting scopes, LOCKED gun cases, toolboxes, whatever, and sit with them behind the firing line. During an active fire period (or whatever term you want to use) I do not understand why I can't walk in and out, set up my stuff at the bench they assigned and then wait with a target behind the firing line.

Others will probably disagree, but there is nothing unsafe about walking in and out during a cease fire period as long as you are behind the bench (firing line, whatever term you want to use) and not handling any firearms.

another reason is for "security" they dont want somebody walking off with another persons guns / gear , to prevent theft, people have been known to walk off with another persons firearm.

[M1A Rifleman]

[QUOTE=fish45;23225

I don't think you understood my statement/ question. I do not understand their logic behind walking in and out of the range. During a cease fire as long as you are behind the firing line and not handling firearms or touching the bench during a cease fire period I do not understand why I cant walk in and out with spotting scopes, LOCKED gun cases, toolboxes, whatever, and sit with them behind the firing line. During an active fire period (or whatever term you want to use) I do not understand why I can't walk in and out, set up my stuff at the bench they assigned and then wait with a target behind the firing line. .[/QUOTE]

There is the concept of safety, and then there is the thoughtless implementation of rules that are overboard to the point of silly, which is the current state of mind.

[fish45]

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When it’s a cease fire you can’t approach the benches nor enter nor leave the range. Basic range safety.

If it’s live fire time, that’s when you can walk over to your assigned spot, uncase and setup for the cease fire.

— Michael

I, like others above, have been to most of the other ranges in a 100ish mile area. I'm at the point that I have separated rifle, pistol, and shotgun into different disciplines and I pretty much stick to the Sacramento Gun Club (I really like this place) for pistol, the Stockton Trap and Skeet Club for shotgun (I really like this place too), and Sac Valley for Rifle (was a member for 3 years, story for another time), Tracy use to be good and I will go there occasionally with friends.

I don't think you understood my statement/ question. I do not understand their logic behind walking in and out of the range. During a cease fire as long as you are behind the firing line and not handling firearms or touching the bench during a cease fire period I do not understand why I cant walk in and out with spotting scopes, LOCKED gun cases, toolboxes, whatever, and sit with them behind the firing line. During an active fire period (or whatever term you want to use) I do not understand why I can't walk in and out, set up my stuff at the bench they assigned and then wait with a target behind the firing line.

Others will probably disagree, but there is nothing unsafe about walking in and out during a cease fire period as long as you are behind the bench (firing line, whatever term you want to use) and not handling any firearms.

[jtv3062]

I believe he is asking why he cant do what you are saying.

[anelson]

As an RSO at Livermore, I can say that we haven't enforced the 2 hour time limit in the last 2 years. Nor, in that time, have we charged a second fee to switch from one side of the range to the other, despite what it says on the website. When USI and then Chabot closed down, Livermore was so overwhelmed with new shooters that there were often 20 to 30 people on wait lists to get a lane. Time limits and not allowing people to jump from one range to the other ahead of others waiting for lanes were implemented to try to accommodate the large number of shooters. For whatever reason, a lot of people aren't shooting as much now as back then and there is not currently a need for those limitations.

Thanks for being an RSO!

Agree, have never been charged to switch lanes at Livermore, and never have had the 2 hour time limit enforced (and i've definitely been there for more than 2 hours in one lane before).

It does get very backed up at times, with wait times.

[kimber_ss]

Hahaha

Livermorons for nothing...

[elSquid]

So why can you not walk in (to whatever spot they give you) with a gun in a LOCKED case unless its during a cease fire period? My group of friends and I stopped going pretty much because of this. Seriously, if I just go to my bench, drop my stuff off/set up and wait there until a cease fire to go post targets what is the big deal with that?

[WiddleCabinet ma’am]

[67Cuda]

Agreed, I'm located in Livermore and stopped going to that range several years ago. Too many odd restrictions and irritations for the cost. Better experience driving a bit further and supporting a friendlier place.

Where do you go to now?