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  • #31
    Mr. Meeseeks
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2951

    Originally posted by jguevara_95
    Thats what i was thinking. Just wrap the grip and not put a forward pistol grip. I have an adapter for a magpul pistol grip that slides on and will not allow you to wrap your hand around it and also comes with a thumb rest which is nice. I already have a fixed stock and it will have a muzzle brake.


    Shooting off a bipod you won't even notice the fin.

    Good luck on the project!

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    • #32
      jguevara_95
      Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 324

      Originally posted by loosewreck


      Shooting off a bipod you won't even notice the fin.

      Good luck on the project!
      Thank you. I hope to post some pics once I am done.

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      • #33
        protohyp
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Sep 2014
        • 3349

        Originally posted by loosewreck
        I don't have any experience with maglocks. Surely someone that does will answer your question.

        I think you misunderstood my post.

        What I was expressing was that I prefer featureless because it preserves most of the actual functionality of an AR15, and that different featureless set-ups can be better suited to match different shooting disciplines.

        Conversely, a mag lock system can be utilized to preserve a cosmetic goal, like when building an M4gery, but compromises the actual functionality.

        That being said, featureless may be a better choice for the OP's MK12 Mod1 build, because shooting from a rest or bipod makes a grip wrap less intrusive. Also a replica MK12 Mod1 without a forward vertical grip only needs a fixed stock and a grip wrap to be CA compliant.
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        • #34
          jguevara_95
          Member
          • Oct 2017
          • 324

          Originally posted by protohyp
          You really need to check out the AR maglock Gen 2 and Kingpin. Other than opening the receiver ALL functions and features of a free state rifle are retained. That includes double feed clearing and bolt holdback
          I will have to look into that too. Interesting what people come up with. A gun store owner once told me its better to have featureless rifle because some cops are not that smart and do not know all the gun laws and might think that an AR with a maglock is an assault weapon. Made sense but i doubt that regular joe cops will now prioritize checking ARs.

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          • #35
            Blade Gunner
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 4422

            Originally posted by Helmut Shmacher Space Chimp
            Just build a rimfire Ar..


            Works for me. Im on my second AR rimfire build. 17 WSM.

            Converted all my AR15 to featureless (Sparrow grips) and AR 308 bench guns, Strike Megafins.


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            • #36
              Blade Gunner
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 4422

              Originally posted by lightcav
              Featureless is the only way to go, thank god we still have that option for now. Enjoy it while it lasts.

              I tried the AR maglock gen2 and thought it was an absolute waste of money. Totally pointless IMO. I hated it.

              Once you get used to the standard mag release on a featureless AR, theres no turning back. Its like a revelation. There are so many good featureless options out now, theres really no excuse at all to handicap yourself with a silly maglock.

              Vagparca grip
              Strike featureless grip
              Sparrow grip
              Monsterman grip
              Exile Hammerhead grip
              Thordsen FRS-15
              Hera CQR
              Option zero
              JT silent stock

              Using a maglock is premature anyway. There will be plenty of time for that nonsense if and when featureless gets banned. All semiautos will probably be in the next ban so that would include fixed mag as well. Again, there is really no good reason to fool around with maglocks on an AR when featureless is still legal. Its simply a no brainer, featureless is the only option right now.


              An added benefit, many of these options are less expensive than the Maglock solutions and ambi bolt release options work.


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              • #37
                Blade Gunner
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 4422

                Originally posted by 1911man
                I went featureless, do I still need a BB?


                Nope


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                • #38
                  wurger
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 1433

                  The CalGuns answer: both.

                  I have a featureless AR and .308 AR, a RAW, and am building a "fixed" mag AR using the Freedom Fighter and Juggernaut pin.

                  On the featureless side, the AR has a fin grip and the .308 has a Sparrow Dynamics grip. Personally prefer the Sparrow.

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                  • #39
                    Sparrow Dynamics
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Nov 2017
                    • 1095

                    Originally posted by wurger
                    The CalGuns answer: both.

                    I have a featureless AR and .308 AR, a RAW, and am building a "fixed" mag AR using the Freedom Fighter and Juggernaut pin.

                    On the featureless side, the AR has a fin grip and the .308 has a Sparrow Dynamics grip. Personally prefer the Sparrow.
                    Glad to hear it! Sounds like you need another one for your AR-15.
                    Larry
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                    • #40
                      Jimi Jah
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 18748

                      Originally posted by 1911man
                      I went featureless, do I still need a BB?
                      One of the best reasons to do that. RAW's still must have bullet buttons, a high price to pay for an adjustable stock and pistol grip.

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                      • #41
                        Jimi Jah
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 18748

                        Originally posted by Helmut Shmacher Space Chimp
                        Just build a rimfire Ar..
                        Many of us did. My AR-22 still has a featureless lower as it's also used for centerfire uppers. Plus you have those squishy possession laws here.

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                        • #42
                          Nickalapokis
                          Member
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 380

                          Originally posted by AGGRO
                          I've had zero luck with my hellfighter install. The rear pin just lets the detent pop out when you turn it. Anyone work on these in San Diego area? I wasted an entire day with this thing. Not happy.
                          I might be able to help you if we can link up our schedules. I installed mine no problem, im very mechanically inclined. Im also up in Carlsbad.

                          Originally posted by wurger
                          The CalGuns answer: both.

                          I have a featureless AR and .308 AR, a RAW, and am building a "fixed" mag AR using the Freedom Fighter and Juggernaut pin.

                          On the featureless side, the AR has a fin grip and the .308 has a Sparrow Dynamics grip. Personally prefer the Sparrow.
                          Youll love the Hellfighter and FF combo. Im thinking of doing it to all my rifles now because of how well it works. You will have to grind down the freedom fighter pin a little to get it to clear the mag button while the bolt is held back.

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                          • #43
                            SAD338
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 580

                            It would be interesting to hear from some of the bigger gunshops about which one is more popular.
                            Anecdotally, I've been in RifleGear talking to some of the customers and it sounded like it was overwhelmingly some type of maglock because they like the features.

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                            • #44
                              spectralhunter
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 604

                              So far I have one featureless and one fixed mag using a Compmag.

                              The fixed mag is just a range gun so I don't have to concern myself with quick magazine changes or reloads. And on those rare occasions I take a trip out of CA, the magazine can be easily removed and I can shoot a fully functional AR-15.

                              I don't mind featureless too much. I went with a Thorsden stock. I can still reach the magazine release but I will need to get an ambi-safety if I want to work the gun with just one hand.

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                              • #45
                                Nickalapokis
                                Member
                                • Jan 2017
                                • 380

                                I took this just for you guys

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                                It is erroring out for me, here is the link also:



                                JT Hellfighter rear pin with Houge Freedom Fighter kit(slightly modded)
                                Last edited by Nickalapokis; 10-13-2018, 4:16 PM.

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