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I was sure mental disorder about vaccines was cured!
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CGN couch patriots: "We the people!"
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Trump appointed a heroin abuser with an IQ south of his shoe size to run the CDC -
In order for individuals to have a choice, there has to be a choice.
It's not necessarily Trump's or RFK, Jr.'s fault, directly. It's not necessarily the fault of doctors or pharmacies, directly.
Everyone is in a state of confusion at the moment. It's similar to the flu shots. The confusion, myths, truths, et al. were never fully addressed in a timely manner with the flu shots. Likewise, the so-called COVID 'vaccines' remain a confusing mishmash of information and misinformation.
What you have are segments of the population who believe they are necessary. You have segments of the population who believe they are unnecessary. You have segments of the population which believe them to be helpful prophylaxes for people with underlying conditions.
But, now, unlike under Biden, the pharmaceutical industry doesn't have the backing of Government to 'guarantee' an income, you have a medical establishment which no longer holds the corner when it comes to information and cannot address or properly address questions since the testing was never complete and/r done as per usual, meaning what the public has been told are claims with little by way of actual Science to back the claims, and, as a result, the public no longer has the 'comfort' that Big Government has said, so they can simply follow directions rather than have to actually make a choice and accept responsibility for the results of that choice.
Predictably, all sides are, once again, throwing out accusations. Just like in the article...
Okay. Question... What about those who said exactly the same thing with regard to the mandates and/or recommendations which were made under Biden and were dismissed as fanatics, misinformed, etc.?“I think the federal health agencies have been essentially corrupted by politics, and I really can’t trust anything that’s coming out of Health and Human Services right now, so I really need to focus on trusted resources,” Ball said.
What we're getting is the same muddled messaging, the same sales pitches, the same 'hysteria' and the same elements blaming Trump, 'anti-vaxxers,' and whomever instead of their own muddled messaging.
Correction. The so-called COVID 'vaccines' have been the most written about, most commented on, and, arguably, the most controversial non-vaccines pushed as vaccines instead of what they are, prophylaxis treatments. Much like the flu shots, they are only as effective as the strain they were geared toward, with the added questions, not actually studied during what would have been 'normal' vaccine development, as to whether they create foreseeable complications, particularly in relation to the number and frequency of boosters. They still do not actually meet the older, pre-COVID definition of 'vaccine' as shown by the Oxford Dictionary...Ball said the COVID-19 vaccine has been “the most studied vaccine in the history of humanity.”
...or even by Google's AI...a substance used to stimulate immunity to a particular infectious disease or pathogen, typically prepared from an inactivated or weakened form of the causative agent or from its constituents or products.
As is now well understood (or should be), these so-called 'vaccines' do NOT provide immunity. They provide a level of resistance, which is why people still get sick; hopefully, where most simply don't get the severity of symptoms. Thus, they exhibit the parameters called for in the new and 'unique' definition pushed out during COVID as you see with Webster's...A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.
That linked 'immune response' is the crux of it. Rather than providing actual 'immunity' as true vaccines were always defined as doing for the vast majority, these so-called 'vaccines,' be they for COVID or the flu, allow the body's immune system to 'react' and, if the shots were formulated with the correct strain(s), then the response is, to one degree or another, 'effective.' But, this is where they've played with the definition of 'immune.'a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease
In that sense, it's not Trump or RFK, Jr. which has 'played' with the definitions. You will notice that even USA Today 'acknowledged' in 2021... Fact check: Missing context in claim that Merriam-Webster changed 'vaccine' definition
The context which is actually missing is that these so-called 'vaccines' had never passed the tests to become vaccines and were, instead, released under an EUA signed by Trump. When Biden began his mandates, truncated tests were pushed as acceptable and 'definitive,' while ignoring the 'long-term' implications due to the fact that the long-term could not have been studied since it has yet, even now, not transpired. As a result, they have NO WAY of knowing if 'immunity' is provided; thus, the 'immune response' muddling. As was discussed on these threads at the time, these so-called 'vaccines' actually meet the medical establishment's definition of 'treatment' much more closely than how they used to define 'vaccine.'...Merriam-Webster revised its "vaccine" definition to replace "immunity" with "immune response." The change also addresses the new technology of mRNA vaccines in light of the COVID-19 pandemic...
According to an archived version of the dictionary's website, Merriam-Webster formerly said a "vaccine" was "a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that is administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease."
The new definition of "vaccine", published in May, reads: "a preparation that is administered – as by injection – to stimulate the body's immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease."...
But, that brings us back to individual choice requiring that a choice is available. Mmmm. I wonder if, once again, a 'lack of choice' is being pushed out, then blame and accusations made, in an attempt to force Government to, once again, provide money, legal protections, etc.?
Would that be conspiracy theory or a reality check?Comment
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Never, ever get the Biden vaccine. My mom's friend, who has been active and healthy, recently got the Biden vaccine (not sure if it's a booster or how many) because she was afraid she caught the wuhan virus. She lost a good part of her lung's function just days after getting the Biden vaccine. Now she's on oxygen and not able to go to exercise classes any more.Comment
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They moved to El Segundo a few years back. Even their name has no credibility.Comment
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BREAKING NEWS!
Those inflicted with TDS are starting to show signs of KDS (Kennedy Derangement Syndrome).
This is a serious affliction with a tendency to infect libtards and RINOs.
Protect yourselves, please stay 50 yards from libtards and RINOs, it's for the children, and grandmas.
"duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76
If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper
Originally posted by SAN compnerd
It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.Comment
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Admittedly, this is as far as I have read your comments, cause, whatever.
Up to this point you could have also been talking about transgenderism, seriously, go back and reread what you wrote, slowly, with this in mind.
"In order for individuals to have a choice, there has to be a choice."
This could apply to transgenderism, which I think most of us here believe to be a mental disorder.
So, should these people have a choice to mutilate their bodies and mind believe they can be something they are not?
If not, then how is this possibly an argument for people having a choice to poison their bodies with an mRNA poison?
"Everyone is in a state of confusion at the moment."
No, not everybody, not me, and not many right here on Calguns.
Most of us understand this was a test of the gov ability to gaslight and control an entire population, and from their perspective it went swimmingly.
The only confused people are those who were duped, and to the left side of the bell curve.
"duck the femocrats" Originally posted by M76
If violent crime is to be curbed, it is only the intended victim who can do it. The felon does not fear the police, and he fears neither judge nor jury. Therefore what he must be taught to fear is his victim. Col. Jeff Cooper
Originally posted by SAN compnerd
It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.Comment
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Really? You're going to compare and equate transgenderism with making a choice to take a COVID shot? Really???
I haven't taken and refuse to get a COVID shot. Does that make me alright?
Trump and Melania got COVID shots, with boosters. Does that make them mentally disordered? Trump and his wife received coronavirus vaccine before leaving the White House.
Does that mean they're guilty of poisoning themselves and encouraging others to poison themselves?Former President Donald J. Trump and his wife, Melania, quietly received coronavirus vaccinations in January before leaving the White House, an adviser said on Monday.
The news came a day after Mr. Trump appeared at the CPAC political conference in Orlando, Fla., where for the first time he encouraged people to go get vaccinated.
“Everyone should go get your shot,” Mr. Trump said during the speech. When The Times asked an adviser to the former president whether he had received his, the answer was that he had, in private, a month earlier.
The secret approach by Mr. Trump came as a number of his supporters have expressed resistance to the vaccine, and as other officials have tried setting an example by getting the shot in public...
Mr. Trump’s concern about the vaccine has generally been about whether he is getting credit for its development while he was president. He never publicly encouraged people to take it while he was in office; the first vaccines were approved shortly after Election Day...
Again, the crucial difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump left it up to individuals to make a choice while Biden mandated it and proffered 'negative consequences' if you didn't.
If you go back and read the threads from when this happened, there was A LOT of confusion and A LOT of questions. If you're going to blame the Government for gaslighting and testing its ability to control people, you have to include Trump in the equation as he authorized the so-called vaccines and was responsible for their initial deployment. FACT.
Once again, it's not the 'Biden vaccine.' They were the Biden mandates, but he did not create or initially deploy the so-called 'vaccines.' Truthfully, Trump didn't 'create' them either; but, he did authorize them via an EUA which allowed skipping or truncating the standard procedures which mRNA vaccines had never successfully passed. FACT.
Could you make an argument that Trump was duped? I don't know if 'duped' would be the correct term. I'd say that, as President, he felt it his responsibility to 'do something ' and given the uncertainty, he did. Was he too reliant on the White House Medical Team?
Donald and Melania Trump received Covid vaccine at the White House in January
You do realize that monoclonal antibody treatment for COVID is no longer authorized for use in the United States; but, it too was authorized under an EUA under Trump.
Former President Donald Trump and former first lady Melania Trump received the Covid-19 vaccine at the White House in January, a Trump adviser told CNN on Monday.
It was not immediately clear which vaccine or how many doses each had received.
The revelation comes after the former President urged his followers to get vaccinated for the virus during his speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando, Florida, on Sunday, telling the audience, “How unpainful that vaccine shot is, so everybody go get your shot.” That encouragement marked a notable shift as Trump, during his time in office, had long dismissed the gravity of the virus and eschewed practices like social distancing and mask wearing.
CNN previously reported that a White House official had said in mid-December that Trump wouldn’t be administered a coronavirus vaccine until it was recommended by the White House medical team.
The official said at the time that Trump was still receiving the benefits of the monoclonal antibody cocktail he was given during his recovery from Covid-19 earlier in the fall, when both he and the first lady had tested positive for the virus...
Monoclonal Antibody Therapy Was Effective for Earlier Variants of COVID-19
Biden was not inaugurated as President until January of 2021.Antibodies are proteins created by certain cells in your immune system to recognize and destroy harmful microorganisms, such as bacteria or viruses. After fighting off the infection, the cells are able to remember the invaders, quickly recognize them and produce protective antibodies again. In November 2020, the FDA authorized emergency use of monoclonal antibodies to treat eligible COVID-19 patients. The treatment is an infusion and is available at some Froedtert & the Medical College of Wisconsin locations...
In 2020, clinical trials with early variants of COVID-19 showed that some monoclonal antibody cocktails, such as bamlanivimab, with etesevimab, casirivimab and imdemivab, or sotrivimab used alone, prevented hospitalizations and emergency room visits in people with mild to moderate symptoms of COVID-19. The monoclonal antibodies stopped the disease from progressing by quickly reducing the quantity of virus in the infected person’s blood. The existing data prompted the FDA to issue emergency use authorizations to drug makers Eli Lilly and Company, Regeneron Pharmaceuticals and GlaxoSmithKline, respectively.
In early 2022, the FDA restricted the use of certain monoclonal antibody treatments because new data showed they were not effective against the omicron variant, which had become the dominant variant of COVID-19. Omicron and its highly contagious subvariants are resistant to many monoclonal antibody treatments. The only monoclonal antibody infusion that is effective against the omicron variant is bebtelovimab. Oral antiviral medications are another option.
The medications Paxlovid and molnupiravir are effective against the omicron variant and are widely available to people who meet the FDA’s eligibility criteria...
The bottom line is that even Trump was uncertain and/or confused. Was he on the wrong side of the bell curve as well?
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