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  • TrappedinCalifornia
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2018
    • 8989

    The Mix-Mash Messaging Continues - Which May or May Not Be a Clue

    The mixed or mashed or mix-mashed messaging has been a major problem all along. Here's an example of the problem, headlines, 4 days apart.

    From 3 January... Covid Has Resurged, but Scientists See a Diminished Threat

    The holidays have come and gone, and once again Americans are riding a tide of respiratory ailments, including Covid. But so far, this winter's Covid uptick seems less deadly than last year's, and much less so than in 2022, when the Omicron surge ground the nation to a halt.

    "We're not seeing the signs that would make me think that we're heading into another severe wave," said Caitlin Rivers, an epidemiologist at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security. "So far, we're in relatively good shape."...

    Some scientists have pointed to rising levels of the virus in sewage samples as an indicator that infections are at least as high this year as they were at this time last year. But Dr. Rivers urged caution in interpreting wastewater data as a proxy for infections and said hospitalizations were a more reliable metric...

    And weekly hospitalizations are increasing more slowly than in previous years, Dr. Rivers said...

    Even if the Covid vaccine does not prevent infection, it can shorten the duration and severity of illness, and minimize the risk of long-term symptoms, including brain fog, fatigue, movement problems and dizziness - collectively known as long Covid...

    Many nursing home residents and staff members remain unvaccinated, because the staff doesn't understand the benefits, said Dr. Karan, who worked with nursing facilities in Los Angeles County...
    From today... A viral social media post claims 1 in 3 people will get COVID this winter. Is it true?

    The United States is in the middle of a wintertime COVID wave, driven by holiday gatherings, people spending more time inside, waning immunity from low uptake of the new COVID vaccine and a new highly infectious COVID variant, JN.1.

    A viral social media post based on data from the U.S. Centers of Disease Control and Prevention is calling this surge the second-biggest COVID wave in the history of the U.S. - after the omicron surge from late 2021 to early 2022, which infected more people than even the early days of the pandemic...

    Yes, the U.S. is in the middle of a COVID wave, multiple experts tell TODAY.com.

    The CDC no longer tracks positive COVID tests and instead relies on presence of the virus wastewater to determine how widespread it is.

    Indeed, a CDC chart of national and regional COVID trends in wastewater shows the national viral activity rate of 11.23 from the week ending Dec. 23, 2023 (the most recent data available) is higher than anything seen since January 2022, as far back as the publicly available CDC data goes. The national rate for the week ending Jan. 15, 2022, was 22.78. What's more, the next round of CDC wastewater data may show a further rise in viral activity after accounting for infections from Christmas gatherings, experts say...
    So... 4 days ago, there were no signs of a severe wave, we were looking good, don't use wastewater measurements, use hospitalizations.

    Today... We're in the 2nd largest COVID wave in history, since CDC no longer tracks COVID tests, use wastewater data, mask up, get vaccinated/boosters, we're all gonna die

    Uh... Let's see... Is it possible...

    We're now a week post-Holiday gatherings. Just the right amount of time for incubation to have occurred for things like flu and COVID. The national rate, according to wastewater measurements (deemed less 'reliable' a metric than hospitalizations) is slightly less than half of what it was at approximately this time last year. Even weekly hospitalizations are increasing more slowly than in previous years. The symptoms remain the same and are largely dependent upon one's underlying health.

    It makes one wonder if actually having to pay, out-of-pocket, for vaccines and boosters, masking up, paying for tests, stocking up on antivirals, long-term care facilities gathering patients in large groups so they can perform weatherproofing maintenance in January (ahem, ask me how I know), etc. is more a way to keep the monies flowing to the medical industry than it is about concerns regarding another COVID wave.
  • #2
    Palmaris
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2009
    • 6277

    They got bribe from Pfizer and manipulated data. Nothing new!
    sd_shooter:
    CGN couch patriots: "We the people!"

    In real life: No one

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    • #3
      Covid
      Member
      • Apr 2023
      • 303

      You got to understand the evilness of this all and it?s very simple. You got a remember they don?t even have a test that could tell Covid from the flu that?s how evil these people are we?re trying to sell their fake narrative

      It?s really not that people are so dumb or sheep these medical people are supposed to tell the truth and have ethics and morals and unfortunately they don?t

      Even here with us we don?t talk about the truth which is your immune system could handle this so this Covid section besides all the lies and the part where these people need to be hanging from trees doesn?t need to be any more

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      • #4
        TrappedinCalifornia
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2018
        • 8989

        Originally posted by Covid
        You got to understand the evilness of this all and it?s very simple. You got a remember they don?t even have a test that could tell Covid from the flu that?s how evil these people are we?re trying to sell their fake narrative

        It?s really not that people are so dumb or sheep these medical people are supposed to tell the truth and have ethics and morals and unfortunately they don?t

        Even here with us we don?t talk about the truth which is your immune system could handle this so this Covid section besides all the lies and the part where these people need to be hanging from trees doesn?t need to be any more
        I grant that a certain cadre has 'taken over' the discussions in terms of how COVID is perceived. But, such has been the case from almost the beginning on this site.

        But, that's part of why this section still exists. Or, at least that's what I believe. While it's turned into a bit of an echo chamber, it still provides...

        1. A place to post about COVID and the on-going machinations without cluttering up OT; i.e., a place to continue unwinding the lack of truth and the continuing mix-mashed messaging.
        2. It still provides a 'resource' (of sorts) for people to follow what is going on and, while the machinations are winding down, it ain't over just yet.
        3. While I'm 'all in' with regard to natural or acquired immunity, not everyone's immune system is able to effectively handle it. For many, it has to do with underlying conditions such as age, state of health, co-morbidities, etc. For some, it's about how, when, and how badly they were exposed/treated medically.
        4. People are still enduring the effects of the so-called 'vaccines' and the associated boosters. (see This hurts to see - but jeeeze we knew, he knew...) There are those still dying from it, dying from the effects, or dying with it. There are those still getting sick from it and experiencing varying results.
        5. Finally, there is still a sense for a need of... call it closure, reckoning, retribution, whatever... and, once again, it's probably best not to tie up OT with those threads.

        Insofar as not having a test to differentiate between the flu and COVID, don't be too absolute about them 'not' having one.

        From March 2023... New Home Test Can Tell If You Have the Flu or COVID

        From October 2023... Fact Check: Combination test is not proof COVID and flu are identical
        Last edited by TrappedinCalifornia; 01-08-2024, 7:29 PM.

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        • #5
          TrappedinCalifornia
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2018
          • 8989

          I always find it interesting (not to mention a bit irritating) when people complain about threads in a section of this site which they consider obsolete, unrequired, 'temporary,' and doesn't need to exist...

          Are on the threads, in a section of this site they consider defunct, posting rather than opting for an alternative such as spending their time in a section of the site they consider relevant, timely, and informative and leaving those who are still seeking information to their chosen pursuits.

          But, hey... What do I know? I'm unvaccinated, unmasked, and have been placing my bets on a level of acquired, natural immunity. Clearly, I don't pay attention to 'official' information either...

          Originally posted by Kestryll
          ...This sub forum is being created to allow discussion, debate, sharing and helping each other during and in realtion to Coronavirus/COVID19...
          Sooner or later, this section will be placed in the background or deleted altogether (I hope not completely, but not my call). Then we can move on to the next national/worldwide crisis... real or induced.

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          • #6
            ibanezfoo
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2007
            • 11680

            They've invested a lot into this scam. They have to keep rolling with it.
            vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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