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  • hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19132

    Man shoots home invader with Birdshot - bad guy returns fire after being shot





    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)
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    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19132




    Dylan Bryan, 33
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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    • #3
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15211

      I'm amazed that people are naive enough to use birdshot for HD, guess a lot of people never took a Physics class and have never shot ballistics gel? I've shot a Coyote at close range with birdshot and even on something that just weighs 30-40lbs, it took multiple shots to dispatch the critter.
      Thinking you are going to stop a 200-300lb threat with birdshot is not very smart.
      NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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      • #4
        Avocado Toast
        Member
        • Nov 2023
        • 212

        Birdshot creates a nasty looking, but very shallow wound, that's hardly incapacitating. If the perp is wearing a thick leather jacket you might not get any penetration.

        Buckshot is the only suitable defensive choice.

        Don't get me started on the idiots who are armchair warriors and have decided to stagger and alternate the rounds with buck and bird. Complete morons who know nothing about ballistics.
        While I am a current and practicing attorney, I'm not your attorney or the attorney for anyone on the forum. You shouldn't take anything I post as legal advice or creating an attorney-client relationship. Anything I post is for pondering, entertainment and conversation only.

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        • #5
          hermosabeach
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Feb 2009
          • 19132

          I stagger bird with rock salt

          the salt really makes the flesh wound sting.

          im also working on a lemon juice capsule round for that extra paper cut sting!





          #Sarcasm
          Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

          Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

          Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

          Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
          (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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          • #6
            L84CABO
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2009
            • 8622

            Originally posted by Capybara
            I'm amazed that people are naive enough to use birdshot for HD,
            Have you been outside lately? Or on the internet? Stupidity is rampant. RAMPANT!
            "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

            Fighter Pilot

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            • #7
              Capybara
              CGSSA Coordinator
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2012
              • 15211

              Originally posted by L84CABO

              Have you been outside lately? Or on the internet? Stupidity is rampant. RAMPANT!
              Truth!
              NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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              • #8
                oddball
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2913

                Loading a shot gun with birdshot indoors is dumb, there are no birds or clays inside. He would have been better off with a 10/22 and quickly shoot the perp with 3-5 rounds.
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                "You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas" - Davy Crockett

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                • #9
                  flyer898
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2015

                  The Internet, where everyone is an expert and prepared to pontificate on subjects about which they know nothing.
                  Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
                  "One argues to a judge, one does not argue with a judge." Me
                  "Never argue unless you are getting paid." CDAA
                  "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw

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