Ruger .22lr charger?

[Honey nut]

Hey all is the .22 Ruger charger pistol legal to own in CA? Does it fall under
The assault weapons ban?

I am trying to determine the legality, i am 99? sure it is legal since it is a rimfire
Pistol?

[L-2]

https://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf

https://ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html

Unless I missed something, it appears to be an AW per the flowchart once I get to the detachable mag outside the grip; and a threaded barrel.

I saw no exemption from being an AW just because the Charger is a rimfire.

[deadcoyote]

I’m talking out my rear end here but so far as my loose web r nets understanding goes the AW exemption for .22 lr applies to long guns. No such exemption for handguns and as mentioned above the magazine outside the grip and threaded barrel are both AW makers for CA handguns.

I’m sure someone smarter will come along shortly and give a definitive answer, please don’t throw rocks at me.

[ASD1]

I?m talking out my rear end here but so far as my loose web r nets understanding goes the AW exemption for .22 lr applies to long guns. No such exemption for handguns and as mentioned above the magazine outside the grip and threaded barrel are both AW makers for CA handguns.

I?m sure someone smarter will come along shortly and give a definitive answer, please don?t throw rocks at me.

Correct no AW for long guns.

Pistol have to comply with AW reg's / and be on the roster

[joefrank64k]

Or make a Faux Charger from a Brownell’s stripped 10-22 receiver like I did.

OAL is >26”. Barrel is >16”. AWB doesn’t apply because it’s not a pistol and it’s rimfire.

[Quiet]

Hey all is the .22 Ruger charger pistol legal to own in CA? Does it fall under
The assault weapons ban?

I am trying to determine the legality, i am 99? sure it is legal since it is a rimfire
Pistol?

There is no rimfire exemption to CA assault weapons laws for pistols.

There is rimfire exemptions to CA assault weapons laws for rifles and for firearms that are not pistols, rifles, or shotguns.

Therefore, under CA laws...

The Ruger Charger is an off-Roster assault weapon due to not having a fixed 10 or less round magazine and having restricted features.

In order to be a CA legal off-Roster handgun, the Ruger Charger must operate utilizing a fixed 10 or less round magazine that cannot be removed without disassembling the firearm's action.
^For the Ruger 10/22, this means the magazine is locked in place until the trigger assembly/pack is removed from the receiver or the magazine is permanently attached in the firearm's magazine well.

The CA legal "Faux Charger" is legally a semi-auto rimfire firearm that is not a pistol, rifle, or shotgun and has a barrel length of 16" or greater and an overall length of 26" or greater.
^These can legally be made from a receiver that was ATF 4473 as "other" and CA DROS as "long gun, other, receiver".


Penal Code 30515
(a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
(4) A semiautomatic pistol that does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that does not have a fixed magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(9) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that does not have a fixed magazine, but that has any one of the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(G) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(H) A second handgrip.
(I) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(J) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(10) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(11) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

[GunnEnvy]

Or make a Faux Charger from a Brownell?s stripped 10-22 receiver like I did.

OAL is >26?. Barrel is >16?. AWB doesn?t apply because it?s not a pistol and it?s rimfire.

This is intriguing. Is a receiver dros'd as "other" by default? Or as a long gun? I guess since rimfire just needs to be oal > 26" and barrel > 16" it doesn't matter?


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[Quiet]

This is intriguing. Is a receiver dros'd as "other" by default? Or as a long gun? I guess since rimfire just needs to be oal > 26" and barrel > 16" it doesn't matter?

The Brownells stripped 10/22 receiver is transferred in CA as:
ATF 4473 = other.
CA DROS = long gun, other, receiver.

It can legally be utilized to make a rifle or firearm that is not a pistol, rifle, or shotgun.

If the firearm has a shoulder stock or an attachment/device that can be utilized as a shoulder stock, then it is considered a rifle.
If the firearm does not have a shoulder stock or an attachment/device that can be utilized as a shoulder stock, then it is considered an other firearm that is not a pistol, rifle, or shotgun.

In order to be CA legal...
The firearm needs to have a barrel length of 16" or greater. [PC 17170(a)]
The firearm needs to have an overall length of 26" or greater. [PC 17170(b)]

Overall length is measured with the firearm in the shortest possible fireable configuration.

[morrcarr67]

The Brownells stripped 10/22 receiver is transferred in CA as:
ATF 4473 = other.
CA DROS = long gun, other, receiver.

It can legally be utilized to make a rifle or firearm that is not a pistol, rifle, or shotgun.

If the firearm has a shoulder stock or an attachment/device that can be utilized as a shoulder stock, then it is considered a rifle.
If the firearm does not have a shoulder stock or an attachment/device that can be utilized as a shoulder stock, then it is considered an other firearm that is not a pistol, rifle, or shotgun.

In order to be CA legal...
The firearm needs to have a barrel length of 16" or greater. [PC 17170(a)]
The firearm needs to have an overall length of 26" or greater. [PC 17170(b)]

Overall length is measured with the firearm in the shortest possible fireable configuration.

So, being a rimfire firearm, it's not affected by the whole Title 1 Other AW ban?

[Quiet]

So, being a rimfire firearm, it's not affected by the whole Title 1 Other AW ban?

Correct.

The CA assault weapons laws for other firearms that are not pistols, rifles, or shotguns only applies to: [PC 30515(a)(9),(10),(11)]
1. Semi-auto centerfire other firearms.


The CA assault weapons laws for other firearms that are not pistols, rifles, or shotguns does not apply to: [PC 30515(a)(9),(10),(11)]
A. (all action types) rimfire other firearms.
B. Manually operated (bolt-action, lever-action, pump-action) repeating centerfire other firearms.
C. Manually operated (bolt-action, break-open, lever-action, pump-action) single-shot centerfire other firearms.


Single-shot = firearm does not have an ammunition feeding device. cartridge is loaded/unloaded directly from the firearm's chamber.
Repeating = firearm has an ammunition feeding device, either detachable or fixed.