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  • TRAP55
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 5536

    ID This One?

  • #2
    smle-man
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2007
    • 10580

    The rotating barrel is the same principle of operation as the Mexican Obregon .45 pistol from the 30s. Perhaps there is a connection with that designer. It looks to be a prototype that never went beyond that stage. Interesting!

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    • #3
      Vlad 11
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 2961

      Wow, I've never seem anything like that. Pretty cool actually. Looks well made
      Try to look up that patent # maybe

      I guess its really one you can actually call 'rare'

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      • #4
        Mike A
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 1209

        I agree with Vlad; the place to start is the patent number. What caliber is this rifle?

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        • #5
          bruceflinch
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 40127

          Very neat find!
          Are those taco sauce stains on the stock?
          What is the stamp on the stock say?
          Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

          I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

          Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

          Secret Club Member?.

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          • #6
            TRAP55
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2008
            • 5536

            Stock stamp is "FNA Mexico", and caliber is 7x57 Mauser.
            Already tried a patent search, that patent number has hits on everything from copper tubing to lace up shoes, but no rifles.

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            • #7
              a1c
              CGSSA Coordinator
              • Oct 2009
              • 9098

              Originally posted by TRAP55
              Stock stamp is "FNA Mexico", and caliber is 7x57 Mauser.
              Already tried a patent search, that patent number has hits on everything from copper tubing to lace up shoes, but no rifles.
              Well that's because this is obviously a Mexican patent, not a US one.

              Here it is:
              Instituto Mexicano de la Propiedad Industrial, Datos de Contacto: buzon@impi.gob.mx, Teléfono: 5556240400


              Filed on March 11th, 1918, by Rafael Mendoza.
              WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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              • #8
                AJAX22
                I need a LIFE!!
                • May 2006
                • 14980

                Damn....... I don't know why... but I want it
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                • #9
                  BillnotBob
                  Junior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 79

                  Interesting how the rear sight is like the one on the Danish Navel Snider.

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                  • #10
                    Mssr. Eleganté
                    Blue Blaze Irregular
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 10401

                    Originally posted by a1c
                    ...Filed on March 11th, 1918, by Rafael Mendoza.
                    Looks like his company is still going...





                    They make the HM-3 submachinegun.
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                    • #11
                      a1c
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 9098

                      And here is some info on that rifle:

                      All of Mendoza’s design efforts in small arms up to that point had been intended for the Mexican Army. He continued that line of development between 1911 and 1918 with a 7x57 mm Mauser-cal., bolt-action, center-fire military rifle of unusual design called the “Fusil Mexico.” In appearance, the rifle seemed to be a bolt-action without a bolt handle, leaving no obvious method of operating it. But in fact, the bolt itself was connected to the fore-end and the action and barrel to the buttstock. The parts of the two-piece, wood stock met just under the receiver. To operate the action, the user rotated the pistol grip outward and backward to unlock the bolt, extract and eject the case. When the pistol grip was pushed forward and rotated downward, the bolt stripped another cartridge from the magazine, chambered it and locked the action to the bolt. The design and operation was ingenious, ergonomic and very straightforward. Mendoza’s rifle was not adopted for military service, but it remains a milestone in bolt-action rifle development.
                      Lifted from:


                      The Google-fu is strong with me today.
                      WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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                      • #12
                        Palimino Stripe
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 658

                        What an interesting rifle with such an unimaginative name. I mean "Mexico Rifle"?? I could come up with dozens of better names If I gave it ANY thought.

                        -Palimino
                        http://www.freedomainradio.com/

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                        • #13
                          a1c
                          CGSSA Coordinator
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 9098

                          Originally posted by Palimino Stripe
                          What an interesting rifle with such an unimaginative name. I mean "Mexico Rifle"?? I could come up with dozens of better names If I gave it ANY thought.

                          -Palimino
                          National pride? The guy supplied the Mexican military at the time. I see nothing wrong with that name.

                          It's not like naming guns after the year of their design/military adoption is particularly imaginative either...
                          WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.

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                          • #14
                            bruceflinch
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 40127

                            That is a neat find! Good info there, a1c.
                            Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                            I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

                            Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

                            Secret Club Member?.

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                            • #15
                              Vlad 11
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2961

                              Originally posted by a1c
                              And here is some info on that rifle:
                              Lifted from:


                              The Google-fu is strong with me today.
                              That it! Mighty fine Googling there, sir

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