Legality ? ----> Transferring Ammunition between C&R Holders

[honos-et-virtus]

Legality ? ----> Transferring Ammunition between C&R Holders

What is the current understanding regarding a California C&R 03-FFL holder transferring (personally within California) ammunition to an out of state C&R 03-FFL while that person is in California?

Example..... I have a C&R license. An out of state C&R 03-FFL holder comes to my California location. Can I legally transfer ammunition to that person? I know that there is no problem with the actual long gun sale just not clear on ammunition transfer.

[SkyHawk]

Technically it is illegal to transfer a C&R firearm or ammunition to a visiting 03 from out of state, unless they also have a COE (which while possible, would be very unlikely).

It is federally legal for 03 to visit here and pick up a C&R firearm, but the state makes it illegal (PC27545)

[Mrmauserjerry]

If it wasn't documented it didnt happen

[Mayor McRifle]

If it wasn't documented it didnt happen

[ir0nclash86]

The understanding I'm sure alot here are thinking is to keep your lips shut.

[DennisCA]

[sfsppe]

This whole California COE/003 thing is illegal. The fact that I “need” to transfer any out of state purchase through a 001FFL is completely ridiculous

[Quiet]

Gun Control Act of 1968

Federal laws prohibits the transfer of firearms between residents of different States without the use of a FFL. [18 USC 922(a)(3),(5)]

A FFL is prohibited from transferring a firearm to a non-resident. [18 USC 922(b)(3)]
Exemption to this if all the following conditions are met. [18 USC 922(b)(3)]
1. The firearm is a Title 1 Rifle or Title 1 Shotgun.
2. The transfer complies with all Federal laws/regulations and all State laws/regulations of the FFL and of the non-resident.

[Quiet]

Legality ? ----> Transferring Ammunition between C&R Holders

What is the current understanding regarding a California C&R 03-FFL holder transferring (personally within California) ammunition to an out of state C&R 03-FFL while that person is in California?

Example..... I have a C&R license. An out of state C&R 03-FFL holder comes to my California location. Can I legally transfer ammunition to that person? I know that there is no problem with the actual long gun sale just not clear on ammunition transfer.

Technically it is illegal to transfer a C&R firearm or ammunition to a visiting 03 from out of state, unless they also have a COE (which while possible, would be very unlikely).

It is federally legal for 03 to visit here and pick up a C&R firearm, but the state makes it illegal (PC27545)

The transfer of ammunition to an out-of-state C&R 03-FFL is exempt from needing to be done through a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer. [PC 30312(c)(5)]

The CA seller is prohibited from selling more than 500 rounds within 30 days. [PC 30342(a)]


Penal Code 30312
(c) Subdivisions (a) and (b) shall not apply to the sale, delivery, or transfer of ammunition to any of the following:
(5) A person whose licensed premises are outside this state and who is licensed as a dealer or collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

Penal Code 30342
(a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a valid ammunition vendor license shall be required for any person, firm, corporation, or other business enterprise to sell more than 500 rounds of ammunition in any 30-day period.