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  • geoint
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 4385

    Russian Sanctions Avoided?

    Last week Kalashnikov Concern claimed that US sanctions were not hurting them and production was up.This dubious claim could only be true if government purchases have been increased (as I predicted they would be back when the sanctions were first announced).Yesterday Rostec, the giant Russian Government arms manufacturing conglomerate which owns a majority stake in Kalashnikov Concern, announced that Kalashnikov is selling the majority stake in Izhevsk Mechanical Plant, known as Baikal in the West, to businessman Andrei Bokarev.Kalashnikov Concern was originally created as the result of a merger between the Izhmash and Izhevsk Mechanical Plants.Andrei Bokarev already owned 49% of Kalashnikov.


    Just saw this article on TFB that Kalashnikov Concern got bought by another Russian company that wasnt listed in the sanctions. Since the sanctions were specifically targeting Kalashnikov Concern, it would seem this renders the sanctions no longer valid. Has anyone seen anything to prove or disprove this?


    Could this mean that Saigas and VEPRs are gonna (in a few weeks or months) return to their pre-July prices???
    Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

    I Hate California.
  • #2
    MontClaire
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 4859

    With the current WH administration it is highly unlikely they would open that door again. It doesn't matter if some russians play the shuffle game with companies. Librasts would grind their teeth to see that not a single saiga or ak from russia enters the US.

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    • #3
      geoint
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 4385

      Im aware of how corrupt and determined our current WH is, but the fact is KC is no longer the company producing Saigas and VEPRs so at least temporarily, (until obongo signs another sanction into place of course) it does look like they have gotten around it.
      Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

      I Hate California.

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      • #4
        Thorax
        Banned
        • Apr 2010
        • 915

        Once prices go up they rarely, if ever. come down.

        Guns, gas, or meat, it doesn't matter.
        You paid high prices once, it must mean you're willing to pay them again.

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        • #5
          cantcme
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 1772

          Completely false. Mag prices have plumetted, ar prices way way down, 223 ammo down significantly.

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          • #6
            chead
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 3109

            It seems really unlikely. I think there's more chance of washed guns coming out of Bulgaria, but again, even that's super unlikely.
            Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
            Hecka funny all my friends with AR's call them "clips" but I call them bullet holder things lol
            Originally posted by MikeR
            So suck it HK, If I wanted an $800 pistol with a crap trigger I would just go buy 2 Glocks.

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            • #7
              Jimi Jah
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2014
              • 17971

              Wait until Obama bans Russian ammo.

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              • #8
                Click Boom
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2013
                • 6955

                Obummer

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                • #9
                  Mot Mi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 1061

                  Always ways around sanctions or laws but doesnt mean that they wont do something again. Look at our ca laws. They got sse this year, repair kits last year, and whats next in 2015? Fight fight fight... and donate to nra, cg, etc..

                  and... the person above saying that guns go up in price stay the same is wrong. Like the other cgr mentioned, ars have gone back down and so have pmags. Do you remember ars going for 2k? What about pmags going for 50 to 100 per? Pmaga are <10 and ars can be had for 600 or less. Saigas and veprs will be back to the norm sooner or later.
                  Last edited by Mot Mi; 09-28-2014, 12:54 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Heretodaygonetomorrow
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 582

                    What I don't get is why some of you Diehard Cheapskates insist on propping up Commie Countries by sending them hard cash dollars.

                    A Commie Country is a Commie Country regardless of what name they are using.

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                    • #11
                      Anthracis
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 966

                      ***
                      Last edited by Anthracis; 10-12-2014, 2:02 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Click Boom
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 6955

                        Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
                        What I don't get is why some of you Diehard Cheapskates insist on propping up Commie Countries by sending them hard cash dollars.

                        A Commie Country is a Commie Country regardless of what name they are using.
                        Same could be said of your state income tax lol.

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                        • #13
                          Click Boom
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 6955

                          I need a 308/x54 vepr!

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                          • #14
                            cjc16
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 756

                            Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
                            What I don't get is why some of you Diehard Cheapskates insist on propping up Commie Countries by sending them hard cash dollars.

                            A Commie Country is a Commie Country regardless of what name they are using.
                            because US made AK's suck.
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                            • #15
                              FiveSeven
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 2424

                              Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
                              What I don't get is why some of you Diehard Cheapskates insist on propping up Commie Countries by sending them hard cash dollars.

                              A Commie Country is a Commie Country regardless of what name they are using.
                              What the poster above me said.
                              + many thousands for other things (hobby) that we don't have it here. Thanks to Ebay.

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