8mm-06

[ivanimal]

[Pthfndr]

How come you rechambered to 8mm-06? There's not much difference between that and plain old 8mm Mauser, which will launch a 200 gr bullet at a respectable velocity.

Just asking.

[Gunsrruss]

Something sounds wrong here????

You have an 8mm Barrel and a 30.06 chamber. Sounds like your headed to the hospital one of these days. Now I had one of my 8mm mausers rebarreled to 308, but that doesn't sound like what you did.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

You have an 8mm Barrel and a 30.06 chamber. Sounds like your headed to the hospital one of these days. Now I had one of my 8mm mausers rebarreled to 308, but that doesn't sound like what you did.

8mm-06 is just a 30-06 case, necked out to 8mm. He will only be firing 8mm-06 cartridges out of it so there is no danger.

[ivanimal]

This is one of the most popular wildcat rounds out there, in fact RCBS keeps this die in stock at all times. I am a serious reloader with years of experience. This only makes me more aware of the possibilities of mixing ammo and having accidents.

I have wanted to build one of these since I read about the chambering in an old reloading manual. Big 5 having a sale on the K98 just made it a reality.

Gunruss I respect your concern but feel you are out of line in your assumption as to my fate. please refrain from your opinion of something you know nothing of. I know exactly what I am doing. I have been a gun owner and hunter since the sixties.

As to the reason I rechambered, I am now able to use my 30-06 brass to form cases at a lesser cost and also get better velocity and stabilization from a 250 grain bullet loaded with IMR4831 / 62.0 grains at 3145 Feet per second. These numbers are impossible with a 30-06 and you need to realize Magnum recoil to get these numbers from any other chambering. This truly is a unique cartridge.

I have to paint the bottoms of all reformed cases a different color and keep good tabs on what I do when reloading, but that is standard practice for me anyhow.

I suppose I could just go to the store and buy a new rifle in a different caliber, but I already have most of those. With exception to the 223 WSM none of the new stuff really grabs me.

[PatrickM.]

that sounds like a very interesting mod to a 8mm masuer... if it works out..you might have to make me one too


your expertise in reloading is amazing....

if i know you ivan.... i know you dont want to go back to the hospital

you have had enough time in a hospital for you me and the rest of the calgun population


good luck on the project!!!!!


Patrick M.

[ivanimal]

[glen avon]

for those unfamiliar with this, as a little background, this was a popular conversion when 8x57 brass was scarce. the 8x57 chamber reams cleanly to .30-06 size, brass is simple to form, and the result is a more powerful cartridge. think .32 whelen. it is truly win/win.

Ivanimal, did you consider the Ackley version?

[ivanimal]

Yes I did but my gunsmith owns the 30-06 reamer and not the Ackley improved model. I did not want to fork over the 60 dollar rental fee for the reamer. Also, I considered the need to fireform all brass and did not want the extra step of going to the range whenever I needed new brass.

[jmlivingston]

Ivanimal,

This is fascinating, I had to pull out my Lyman's book and take a look at the measurements of these two cartridges to see how it looked. The 30-06 is longer with a wider shoulder but narrower neck than the 8x57 Mauser has. So I see what you're accomplishing, by being able to take the larger diameter bullet of the 8mm and feed it more powder. That's just way too cool!!!! I'd heard of the 8mm-06 but didn't know anything about it, thank you for the education!

You're one of those quiet guys around here who always knows what they're talking about when they post and I've learned to respect what you say. But as you're describing this to us, you've demonstrated a deeper level of knowledge than I'd previously known. You're definately not one of those guys who just knows what sits on the shelf and what it can do, but you have a comprehension of what occurs beyond a box of bullets and a rifle to feed them into. You've just raised my respect for you another notch or two!

This is real teaching and learning, I'd like to hear more about this type of thing rather than the ongoing babble of OLL's and what off-the-shelf items we can bolt on to them.

John


PS
I hadn't heard about your apparent health issue's, what ever they are I hope you have a speedy recovery!!!

[rkt88edmo]

You're one of those quiet guys...

HAH! - The power of the internet!

I met Ivan through CG and an interest in reloading, he is a great guy and always has a funny story to tell.

[ivanimal]

Thank you Jim Livingston and thank you Rokit, it is certainly nice to be acknowledged. Jim I have been described as anything but quiet.
I am a gun nerd though and do like to have fun with my only addiction. My first love is bolt action hunting rifles, then leverguns. I am getting better schooled on semi autos but have a ways to go yet.

I appreciate your concern for my health. Almost 2 years ago I had Brain surgery and the muscles on the right side of my face did not wake up. I have since lost the use of my right eye making me left handed. The nice doctors are trying to restore my sight but first have to get the eyelid to close. Then replace the cornia. No big mystery just another of Gods tests. I go in on the 7th of June, wish me luck.

I have learned oodles of info on these boards and I hope I have shared some too. There is so much to learn and we cannot do it all ourselves. I just hope we are having fun doing it. I hope I can live up to the given respect.

[jmlivingston]

Well Ivanimal, I say quiet because I know you've been around a long time yet your post count is under 150 since the migration to the new board format.... so you might be loud, but around here you don't say a heck of a lot. But when you speak, we'll be listening.

Hope your surgery goes well in June. Back in January a close friend of mine was involved in a motorcycle accident, with serious head trauma / brain injury.... so while I don't know what your details are I have sort of an idea what you might be going through. We'll include you in our prayers, and sure hope you come through it just fine. I'm eager to learn what your next wildcat project will be!

John

[tankerman]

Good to here Mauser talk

That's a quality round. Easily done at home. Rent the reamer and do it by hand, my uncle and I frequenty mess with military barrels and rechamber them, as long as you know their lineage and capability it's mostly safe. Mausers are still one of the easiest to find quality after market parts for, if you want to make a semi custom sporter. Midway usually has good average prethreaded short chambered sporter barrels in assorted calibers on their clearance list( 45.00-85.00$), along with timney triggers and all kind of drop in and semi finished stocks. If you are looking to get some at home gunsmithing expirience, a large ring Mauser is a great and affordable place to start.
A good local contact for Mauser everything is HMK Enterprises
Located in San Gabriel 626-308-3895 Harry Kashiwabara
Is also FFL
Operates his businees out of his house. Has got EVERYTHING MAUSER. And is a real gentlemen

[ivanimal]

Thanks Tankerman I will call him for my next project. The 35 Whelen. I truly believe that the 8MM-06 is comprable but curiosity has me wondering if I can do my own side by side tests to see which is superior. Since both are based on the 30-06 I could be just wastin time.

Mr. Livingston thanks for your prayers, that is the most kind thing you can do. If I were to ask for help (and I did) that would be what I would ask for.

I was number 2 on the Karma list before the migration. I just had a hard time coming back with all the back biting and off list arguments. It really put a damper on the reason I frequent this board. I did however resume my moderator status and am now fully back. I do look at every post in the rifleman and shotgun forums, this does not always leave time for other interests on this board. No complaints just the way it is.