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  • #46
    usmcchet9296
    CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
    • Feb 2008
    • 1834

    Tikka is a great rifle but with limited upgrade possibilities
    Savage is a great rifle too
    I had a remington 700 SPS in .223 and it was a lazer and cost 600.00 or so out the door.
    I sold it but plan to get one in .308 later this year. For the money its the best of the 3.
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    • #47
      West coast
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2007
      • 2133

      Originally posted by strangerdude
      Remington 700 sps tactical
      What he said!!!!

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      • #48
        X-NewYawker
        In Memoriam
        • May 2008
        • 5993

        I gotta tell you -- that Remington SPS (I had two) did NOT impress me. The stock must be Sh*t canned immediately, and the ones with the triangular barrels didn't sell me.

        You cannot beat the Remington 700 Police. They make a 20 inch and 26 inch, in 223 or 308, the triggers are great and they come in a sturdy, well made HS Precision stock with an aluminum bedding block. They are an out of the box rifle that with a scope and trigger work (if yours needs it) will shoot sub MOA all day long. Then you put your money in a killer optic and 20 MOA base and you're there.

        Only the R5 is a better non-custom gun.
        Last edited by X-NewYawker; 06-01-2011, 5:15 PM.

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        • #49
          SOcal
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 498

          I know the Tikk's shoot ok but they feel like an absolute piece of ***** to me, plastic trigger guard doesnt do it for me either.

          Go Remington 700 and don't look back. You can have your action trued and re-barreled down the road if you desire, stocks are plentiful, solid track record (military and civilian) and just plain accurate.

          Out of the box the 5r is hard to beat, if that is too pricy, the 700 Varmint is cheaper and still shoots great. Even the SPS shoots good - the stock blows but replace that and you should see acceptable accuracy to get you out to 600 easy. If you reload, it is no problem to tune a SPS, 5R, Police, Varmint, or any 700 based rifle to shoot sub MOA.

          If you still want a cheaper rig, look at Savage as others have said. I have seen some that are flat out shooters, and others that I wouldnt even allow to rest inside my gun safe.

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          • #50
            Iggy
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 1120

            I think for all those reasons the Tikka T3 CTR is a good contender. Keep in mind the OP asked out of the box.

            Mine came with a 20" 5R 1:11 twist barrel. It has a tight chamber and even though the stock is plastic, the barrel is free floated. It will not flex and touch the barrel like the Hogue stock.

            Next the action is super smooth. Smoother than a Remington, and even smother than some customs. The action itself has many improvements over the Remington as well.

            The trigger can be adjusted down to 2lbs by the user and breaks clean. It feels nicer to me than even a Remington trigger that has been worked over.

            After this Tikka I just bought and having shot it, I don't think I can recommend anyone on a budget to another bolt gun. The Tikka hands down wins for an out of box rifle in quality, price, and accuracy.

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            • #51
              mif_slim
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2008
              • 10089

              Remington 700 because in COD its the best gun!
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              • #52
                Iggy
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 1120

                And for those that say there aren't smiths that work on Tikka's. look at this:

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                • #53
                  tacticalcity
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10895

                  $2K budget?

                  Rifle: Remington 700 Police (all black) or Remington 700 5R Milspec (stainless precision barrel with special rifling)

                  Scope: Leupold Mark 4 IR Mildot 2.5-10x40 Scope

                  Shop wisely and you can get find one of those rifles and that scope under $2K.

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                  • #54
                    Iggy
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1120

                    Ok lets do this again:

                    Tikka T3 CTR: $850
                    SWFA 5-25 HD scope: $1000 with Snipers Hide coupon
                    Seekins rings: $130

                    Total: $1980

                    Buy a box of ammo with the money left over to shoot!

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                    • #55
                      tacticalcity
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 10895

                      Originally posted by X-NewYawker
                      I gotta tell you -- that Remington SPS (I had two) did NOT impress me. The stock must be Sh*t canned immediately, and the ones with the triangular barrels didn't sell me.

                      You cannot beat the Remington 700 Police. They make a 20 inch and 26 inch, in 223 or 308, the triggers are great and they come in a sturdy, well made HS Precision stock with an aluminum bedding block. They are an out of the box rifle that with a scope and trigger work (if yours needs it) will shoot sub MOA all day long. Then you put your money in a killer optic and 20 MOA base and you're there.

                      Only the R5 is a better non-custom gun.
                      SPS is what you get if want to replace the stock. Because the metal is the same as the Police, just a different finish.

                      If you like the stock on the Police, then it worth the price. But if you plan on ditching the stock, then it doesn't make sense. Because a good portion of the price is going towards the stock.

                      With his budget, however, it doesn't make sense to get the SPS and upgrade the stock because there will not be enough room to get anything better than what comes with the Police. The only two stocks companies that make a superior stock are Accuracy International and McMillan. Other companies make stocks that are as good as the stock that comes with it...but not better. Since the budget is $2K, and he needs at least $1K for the scope, the Police makes a lot of sense.

                      I had a Remington 700 5R Milspec at one point. Most accurate rifle I have ever owned. Truly impressive performance from an out of the box rifle. In addition to the stock you also get a superior barrel. Last I checked these were running $900. The stainless steel barrel with the 5R rifling is well worth the price. If the finish bothers you then you can always have it painted with cerekote down the road when you have more money.
                      Last edited by tacticalcity; 06-01-2011, 5:47 PM.

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                      • #56
                        ubet
                        Senior Member
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1557

                        I have been down the road you are going to take, more than a few times.

                        Savages are good, triggers suck, stocks suck, barrels are better than the remmys (I am talking the lower ends of both guns the fp and sps guns). They shoot right out of the box, BUT, to get good accuracy, you need to dump the factory stock/trigger, and upgrade so thats $100 for the trigger, and a bell & carlson stock (cheapest I would go) is going to run you $300 off the top of my head. So you paid $650 for your gun, and are now at $1050.

                        Remmys I am limited in knowledge, I start with a 5r, the actions are good on the lower end varmints sps etc, but thats where it ends with them, think of it as a donor action. But with the 5r, you get a good stock, good barrel (5r rifling), triggers on mine are alright, good action. But used, its probably gonna be around $1000 or $1100 BUT you dont have to do anything just shoot it.

                        That being said, IF you go into the next price range <$1600, you can get a savage with the modular stocks, heavy barrel, rails if I remember right, they do come with 20 or 30 moa cant. This rifle is FULLY adjustable, ready to go, add rings, scope, bipod, and a sling, you are ready. Plus this gun comes with a detachable 10rd mag, that is a HUGE plus, to buy a badger m5 bottom metal its $350 alone. http://savagearms.com/firearms/models/

                        With the savage bk series you are set where as with everything else, you are going to eventually want to upgrade (I always have) ie stocks mainly, adjustable cheek, buttplate. You can add those onto others and do it yourself, karsten cheek pieces, and david tubb makes a 6way adj buttplate, with a little innovation and a beer or two you can do the work yourself.

                        Research, its better to wait and save, than to buy now, and have to add all that **** later. Dont be impatient.

                        Personally next time I do it, if its not a GAP or DTA SRS or a Savage 10BA.

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                        • #57
                          foxtrotuniformlima
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 3446

                          Something else to consider. When you decide you want to sell it and upgrade or change calibers or try something different, the Remington will be easier to sell.
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                          • #58
                            SOcal
                            Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 498

                            Just go to a tactical rifle / long range rifle / precision shooting competition and tell me how many Tikka's you see.... none. There is a reason for that. There are a few Savages here and there, but mostly Remington and or Rem. variants. They are popular for more reasons than I care to explain. The 5R is renowned as one of the most accurate, rugged and dependable factory bolt rifles you can get at any price, with any rifle you will have to handload for it to bring out its true accuracy potential but for the money, the 5R is a great platform that will retain its re-sale value, offer oppurtunities for tuning / truing in the future, and ACCURATE!

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                            • #59
                              xxINKxx
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 4289

                              Another vote for Remington 700. You can find new ones in the 600$ range. Then spend 400$ on mods to make it even more awsome and be in your 1k price range
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                              • #60
                                diego-ted
                                Senior Member
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 810

                                Originally posted by SOcal
                                Just go to a tactical rifle / long range rifle / precision shooting competition and tell me how many Tikka's you see.... none. There is a reason for that. There are a few Savages here and there, but mostly Remington and or Rem. variants. They are popular for more reasons than I care to explain. The 5R is renowned as one of the most accurate, rugged and dependable factory bolt rifles you can get at any price, with any rifle you will have to handload for it to bring out its true accuracy potential but for the money, the 5R is a great platform that will retain its re-sale value, offer oppurtunities for tuning / truing in the future, and ACCURATE!
                                Just got back from one in Albuqurque, saw at least six tikkas two finished in the top 10!! Put that in your pipe and smoke it?? I think you have been sucking on the remmy koolaid a little tooo long. Sure you can get a remmy to shoot like a tikka just buy it and spend another $500 on it!! My Tikka shoot sub 1/2 moa out of the box with factory ammo, well Fed Gold match, and shot almost 1/3 moa with some custom reloads. Bang for the buck, out of box shooting, I put my $$ on the Tikka. JMHO. You can search my user name and see the five shot group at sub 1/2 moa, and I have only been back into shooting about six months.

                                Ted
                                Last edited by diego-ted; 06-02-2011, 1:22 PM.
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