700 XCR Tac Long Range(.308)....Finally home! (pic heavy)

[Sheepdog1968]

Very nice rifle. What sling do you have on it?

[RobG]

Nice stick. I have the same scope and am very impressed so far. Could easily see 1k targets at 16x, any more produced too much mirage. It tracked perfectly.
If you think you may shoot beyond your set-ups capability in the near future, get the 20 moa base now. No sense in setting it up as is then deciding you want more and have to go through the process all over again. The EGW's are cheap enough that you can get a 20 moa and sell the 0 to recoup some $$.
Hows your cheek weld? Seems like the scope is pretty high.

[rumblebee]

For the $, the Viper is a real nice scope.

Good news for my 0 MOA base....Thanks!

Sheepdog1968...Thanks...it's a TIS sling

http://www.tacticalintervention.com/

Yup, I like it on my Savage 12FVSS also. Great scope for the price. Order from liberty optics of free shipping and calguns discount.

I was able to make torso hits out too 1000 yards over the weekend when I took the long range shooting clinic in Sacramento. I'm running 30mm Burris Zee rings with +10moa inserts though. At 1000 yards, I needed to dial in about 36 moa. Keep in mind I was shooting 75 grained .223's, so even more of a challenge. The long 26" Savage barrel helped to squeeze out all the velocity I needed to make it out to 1K yards without going subsonic I believe.



You'll be fine with the 0 MOA until probably out to 600 yards.

[rumblebee]

I preferred the cheek weld with the low Burris Xtr rings, but the bolt knob had very little clearance to the scope when bolt was open. It's doable and trust me, I went back and forth from the med to low a few times. I may try and install the low and see if I can deal with the clearance?...it's not hitting, just real close.

I'm considering the 20 MOA base now....seems to be the way to go.

Thanks

Nice stick. I have the same scope and am very impressed so far. Could easily see 1k targets at 16x, any more produced too much mirage. It tracked perfectly.
If you think you may shoot beyond your set-ups capability in the near future, get the 20 moa base now. No sense in setting it up as is then deciding you want more and have to go through the process all over again. The EGW's are cheap enough that you can get a 20 moa and sell the 0 to recoup some $$.
Hows your cheek weld? Seems like the scope is pretty high.

[OutlawDon]

I'm considering the 20 MOA base now....seems to be the way to go.

Thanks

Yes, I'd suggest a 15 or 20 MOA base.

Why not make use of all the internal elevation a scope has to offer if you plan to shoot long distances. Here's how I see it. If a scope has 68moa of elevation, you really have about half of that for elevation since it should be somewhere near the middle of the adjustment range if zero-ed at 100/200 yards. So basically, you have ~34moa +/- 5 of down elevation that is not used and "wasted." Make use of that by slapping on a tapered base and Waa-Laa....you just added more up elevation just in case for shooting out further and not running out of turns.

[ar15barrels]

did I hose myself in any way with a 0 MOA, if I'm going up to 500yds and have a max adjust of 68 on elevation?

I'm not stan, but I can school you on scope elevation travel and bases.

The 68moa you quote is TOTAL travel.
You split that number in half to figure how much is UP and how much is down.
The down travel is completely lost.
You are only interested in UP travel so you have 34moa.
THEN, subtract another 5-8moa to get the gun zeroed at 100yds.
Now you have 26-29moa left.
THEN subtract another 2-3moa at the end that you won't be able to use if you have any windage dialed. The scope tube is round inside so any windage you dial will reduce the available elevation.

You should be good to about 700yds with the base you have assuming your gun is square.
If the barrel is not sitting perfectly straight in the action, you lose a little more elevation travel, but you would certainly be fine to 500yds.

[Black Majik]

Nice setup indeed. How do you like the TIS sling?

[rumblebee]

Not Stan, but you did stay in a holiday in last night!

Seriously...thanks to you and OutlawDon for schooling me on this. I'm going with a 20 MOA base....live a learn.....at least it's only a 40.00 buck fix

I'm not stan, but I can school you on scope elevation travel and bases.

The 68moa you quote is TOTAL travel.
You split that number in half to figure how much is UP and how much is down.
The down travel is completely lost.
You are only interested in UP travel so you have 34moa.
THEN, subtract another 5-8moa to get the gun zeroed at 100yds.
Now you have 26-29moa left.
THEN subtract another 2-3moa at the end that you won't be able to use if you have any windage dialed. The scope tube is round inside so any windage you dial will reduce the available elevation.

You should be good to about 700yds with the base you have assuming your gun is square.
If the barrel is not sitting perfectly straight in the action, you lose a little more elevation travel, but you would certainly be fine to 500yds.

[rumblebee]

I personally like the TIS slings..they are set up on (2) of my rifles now!

Nice setup indeed. How do you like the TIS sling?

[OutlawDon]

Seriously...thanks to you and OutlawDon for schooling me on this. I'm going with a 20 MOA base....live a learn.....at least it's only a 40.00 buck fix

You're welcome. Sell the 0 MOA mount and recoup some of the loss. The $40 will soon be forgotten, but not if you had ran out of elevation shooting at long distances later with the flat base. Then you'd kick yourself in the arse for not having gone with the tapered base in the first place. Make the most out of your scope.

[rumblebee]

The voice of reason coming thru loud and clear (on order)! BTW....nice Savage!

You're welcome. Sell the 0 MOA mount and recoup some of the loss. The $40 will soon be forgotten, but not if you had ran out of elevation shooting at long distances later with the flat base. Then you'd kick yourself in the arse for not having gone with the tapered base in the first place. Make the most out of your scope.

[MasterYong]

You're welcome. Sell the 0 MOA mount and recoup some of the loss. The $40 will soon be forgotten, but not if you had ran out of elevation shooting at long distances later with the flat base. Then you'd kick yourself in the arse for not having gone with the tapered base in the first place. Make the most out of your scope.

Yeah that was good info posted from AR15Barrels. I had a few folks tell me to get a 20 MOA base for my 700, but I didn't really know why. I kept thinking "what could MOA have to do with a base?" and I never bothered to look it up.

When it was suggested the OP swap the 0 MOA for the 20 MOA I had to look it up. After a very short Google search I found my answer, came back, and realized someone had posted the info I was looking for in the thread I had just left LOL. Thanks!

[swerv512]

When it was suggested the OP swap the 0 MOA for the 20 MOA I had to look it up. After a very short Google search I found my answer, came back, and realized someone had posted the info I was looking for in the thread I had just left LOL. Thanks!

Isnt that what makes CGN so great!

[rumblebee]

I was hip to the different MOA bases, but I thought I would be shooting to a max of 500-600 yards. Already had 0 MOA on order, when someone said go for the 20 MOA.

No big deal for me to change it out, as it's not been sighted in or "set up" already. I'm going to try and run the low rings with the 20 MOA base and see how that works out.

CG is "the place"

[Sheepdog1968]

This post was very helpful. Thank you very much.

I'm not stan, but I can school you on scope elevation travel and bases.

The 68moa you quote is TOTAL travel.
You split that number in half to figure how much is UP and how much is down.
The down travel is completely lost.
You are only interested in UP travel so you have 34moa.
THEN, subtract another 5-8moa to get the gun zeroed at 100yds.
Now you have 26-29moa left.
THEN subtract another 2-3moa at the end that you won't be able to use if you have any windage dialed. The scope tube is round inside so any windage you dial will reduce the available elevation.

You should be good to about 700yds with the base you have assuming your gun is square.
If the barrel is not sitting perfectly straight in the action, you lose a little more elevation travel, but you would certainly be fine to 500yds.