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  • #16
    sigstroker
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    • Jan 2009
    • 19111

    Originally posted by jimster716
    I didn't realize it until I got it but it's the suppressor size so its inner diameter is a bit bigger to accommodate a can. It's 18" long and I can't think of any reason why anyone should need 18" of picatinny rail (would've been a smart way to save weight by having rails at each end only). I have another Midwest handguard on a 5.56 and I have no complaints about their products. Well made and affordable.
    Supposedly night and thermal add-ons are supposed to work best close to the scope. Not everyone is in Cali.

    Angeles Shooting Range goes up to 600yds. I do want to check out the 1,000 yd public range at California Tactical Academy in Piru.
    Even a thousand yards isn't going to push that rifle. You'll need at least 1200...

    Driving up I-15 to Vegas there are big dry lakes off to the side. It would be great to find a way to shoot on those. I saw a video of a .50 tracer being shot on a dry lake. The tracer stayed lit for a good 5 seconds as it ricocheted up into the air.

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    • #17
      sigstroker
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      Another guy with a Valkyrie using that Primary Arms scope:



      Spoiler: Getting 2650 fps even with an 18" barrel. Pretty good considering that load is supposed to do 2700 with a 24" barrel.

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      • #18
        jimster716
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 836

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        Another guy with a Valkyrie using that Primary Arms scope:



        Spoiler: Getting 2650 fps even with an 18" barrel. Pretty good considering that load is supposed to do 2700 with a 24" barrel.
        Nice! He's using the Deka Mil reticle. I got the ACSS reticle before I did more research on the Deka Mil reticle. Maybe I would've chosen the Deka Mil had I researched more but because I'm most likely only trying to hit steel at 500+ yards, I think I prefer the ACSS for aiming by holdover across distances. ACSS subtensioning is optimized for .223/.308 but I used a BDC calculator for recalculations. Getting itchy to shoot this rifle.
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        • #19
          sigstroker
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          He's actually got an Athena BPR reticle, which is in the Horus mold. It's brand new, which makes me think he's a rep or sponsored by Primary Arms.

          I heard about the Savage when it first came out but decided against it when I saw it had an 18" barrel. However, seeing it get 2650 fps is making me think about it again. If I see other reviews of it doing half-moa it will be hard to resist.

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          • #20
            jimster716
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            • Oct 2011
            • 836

            Originally posted by sigstroker
            He's actually got an Athena BPR reticle, which is in the Horus mold. It's brand new, which makes me think he's a rep or sponsored by Primary Arms.

            I heard about the Savage when it first came out but decided against it when I saw it had an 18" barrel. However, seeing it get 2650 fps is making me think about it again. If I see other reviews of it doing half-moa it will be hard to resist.
            That Savage MSR15 Valkyrie is super popular especially for the MSRP of $1,499. I don't think anyone can touch it at that price point. No one seems to be complaining about it.

            Unrelated is the big blow up going on about barrels and jump distances affecting accuracy and Federal SMK's not being match grade consistent in COAL. Barrel makers are considering going to 1:6.5 twist for the 90gr SMK perhaps negatively impacting the lighter bullets.
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            • #21
              God Bless America
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              • May 2014
              • 5163

              Originally posted by sigstroker
              Supposedly night and thermal add-ons are supposed to work best close to the scope. Not everyone is in Cali.
              We can have thermal and passive night vision here in CA.

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              • #22
                sigstroker
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                Originally posted by jimster716
                That Savage MSR15 Valkyrie is super popular especially for the MSRP of $1,499. I don't think anyone can touch it at that price point. No one seems to be complaining about it.

                Unrelated is the big blow up going on about barrels and jump distances affecting accuracy and Federal SMK's not being match grade consistent in COAL. Barrel makers are considering going to 1:6.5 twist for the 90gr SMK perhaps negatively impacting the lighter bullets.
                The Patrol version of the Savage is even cheaper. I don't know what the differences are besides the stock. Maybe the trigger? If the barrel is the same I might go for the cheapie.

                The guy in that video was doing fine with factory ammo and the 1 in 7. However, new 95 gr bullets are out, and Bergers might come out that are even longer, so the faster twist would be better for those.

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                • #23
                  97F1504RAD
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                  • Dec 2008
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                  Originally posted by jimster716
                  I was reading an interesting article on the .224 and barrel length.

                  224 VALKYRIE- Effect of barrel length on velocity New cartridges come and go.  Some catch on while others fade into obscurity.  As a gun writer I try to predict which ones will take off.  Like anyt…


                  I figure most rifle and barrel mfr's take the position that 18" firing the 90gr SMK has sufficient muzzle velocity and acceptable drop and drift to longer barrels without having to lug around a 24"+ barrel in an AR pattern. I have other AR's so just went with the longer barrel just to eek out some more velocity for 1,300yds+ though I realistically have no idea when I'll have the opportunity to shoot that far.

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                  • #24
                    jimster716
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 836

                    Originally posted by 97F1504RAD
                    I read that article also and made the choice to just go with a 20” barrel for my build, just waiting for Ballistic Advantage to come out with theirs. What I have been having issues finding is 6.8 magazines.

                    Nice build by the way.
                    I got the combo pack of 6.8 mags from Stag Arms, three for $75. The pack went back up to $89. I also ordered a couple of ASC 25rd 6.8 mags blocked to 10rd for $25 each purely for looks really.
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                    • #25
                      gobler
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                      • Mar 2010
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                      I have a question. What mags does one use for an AR15 style .224 Valkyrie? Can you use a regular 5.56 mag? It looks like from the post above you use 6.8 Grendel; correct?

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                      Last edited by gobler; 04-23-2018, 2:18 AM.
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                      • #26
                        97F1504RAD
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                        Originally posted by gobler
                        I have a question. What mags does one use for an AR15 style .224 Valkyrie? Can you use a regular 5.56 mag? It looks like from the post above you use 6.8 Grendel; correct?

                        "The 2nd Amendment is a right, not a suggestion"
                        6.8SPC Mags

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                        • #27
                          gobler
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                          Originally posted by 97F1504RAD
                          6.8SPC Mags
                          And those will fit into a standard AR 15 lower, correct?

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                          • #28
                            jimster716
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                            • Oct 2011
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                            Originally posted by gobler
                            And those will fit into a standard AR 15 lower, correct?

                            "The 2nd Amendment is a right, not a suggestion"
                            .224 Valkyrie works in the AR-15 (.223/5.56) pattern. Some people have jammed the rounds into 5.56 mags. MFR's of complete rifles are including 6.8 SPC mags since the .224 is basically a 6.8 necked down to a .224.

                            I have not had issues with my Stag Arms and ASC 6.8 mags chambering .224.
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                            • #29
                              gobler
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                              • Mar 2010
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                              Originally posted by jimster716
                              .224 Valkyrie works in the AR-15 (.223/5.56) pattern. Some people have jammed the rounds into 5.56 mags. MFR's of complete rifles are including 6.8 SPC mags since the .224 is basically a 6.8 necked down to a .224.

                              I have not had issues with my Stag Arms and ASC 6.8 mags chambering .224.
                              Cool. Good to know. I guess it's time to stock up on 6.8mags


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                              • #30
                                sigstroker
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                                Jimster, any groups yet?

                                There's a new barrel out that I haven't seen before. Not too bad a price:

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