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  • ar15barrels
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    Originally posted by jrpowell3
    Gotcha. Thank you for the explanation. Badger ordnance, as referenced by you, has that integral recoil lug.
    As does TPS.
    If you removed the brand names from the rail, you would be hard pressed to tell a badger from a TPS as they are both so nicely made.

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  • jrpowell3
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    Originally posted by Yerman
    I don't think you will want an extended mount. Those are better suited for ARs.

    See me Remington 700 below...see how the ring on the back is really far back...I'm not 100% sure but an extended mount will likely push your scope too far forward.

    Is there a reason you want a one piece? Are you moving your scope around to different ]
    No reason in particular, but I am currently building an AR10, maybe until I could afford a second scope I could switch back and forth, but that's secondary, but I would appreciate that flexibility.

    Regardless, I figured I would try and stick to rings made by the scope manufacturer. And the only 20MOA mount I could find by vortex wss that extended one.

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  • Yerman
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    Originally posted by jrpowell3
    Been doing some research, what do y'all think about this set up:

    Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44
    Badger Ordnance 0moa picatinny base
    Vortex Precision QR Extended Cantilever 30mm 20moa mount
    I don't think you will want an extended mount. Those are better suited for ARs.

    See me Remington 700 below...see how the ring on the back is really far back...I'm not 100% sure but an extended mount will likely push your scope too far forward.

    Is there a reason you want a one piece? Are you moving your scope around to different rifles?

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  • jrpowell3
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    Been doing some research, what do y'all think about this set up:

    Vortex Viper HS-T 4-16x44
    Badger Ordnance 0moa picatinny base
    Vortex Precision QR Extended Cantilever 30mm 20moa mount

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  • Switchbarrel
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    Originally posted by Yerman
    You can't get 20moa in rings. If you want to go that route, you will need a one-piece.
    Stiller and D&B Supply (www.scopeusout.com) both sell tapered rings, but they are for Davidson rails. Kelbly might too. Ivey used to sell a 150 MOA ring/base combo, don't know if they still do or not (Different one piece combo on their website now).

    If you want to use the Picatinny base, the Burris Signature Zee & XTR Signature Zee rings will get you there as well. The XTR's list up to 40 MOA offset when placed at the proper spacing.

    -Rick

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  • Yerman
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    Originally posted by jrpowell3
    That's good to know, so picatinny it is.

    I like what JMP is saying regarding 0 MOA bases. I guess I'd need to find rings with the 20 MOA cant.
    You can't get 20moa in rings. If you want to go that route, you will need a one-piece.

    So, bases are recommended over "pillar style"

    If you want more usable elevation out of your scope, either:

    1) 20 MOA base and standard rings
    Or
    2) 0 MOA base with 20 MOA one piece

    Stick with quality whatever you get.

    Make sure you push your mounts forward when tightening. Use a torque wrench. Lap if needed. Etc, etc. watch lots of YouTube about proper installation of your scope. Ask if you need help

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  • jrpowell3
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    Originally posted by Carcassonne
    Picatinny rails are compatible with Weaver base components, but the Weaver base is not always compatible with Picatinny components.

    If you don't mind the look of a lot of extra grooves in your scope base, get the Picatinny.

    With a Picatinny you get more adjustment on where you want the rings. A Weaver base usually only gives you 1 or 2 places to mount the rings.


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    That's good to know, so picatinny it is.

    I like what JMP is saying regarding 0 MOA bases. I guess I'd need to find rings with the 20 MOA cant.

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  • jrpowell3
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    Originally posted by Mr. Patis
    The tps base also have the recoil stop/lug...i think it's
    cheaper than the badger
    I was looking at bases, and you're right.

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  • Carcassonne
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    Originally posted by jrpowell3
    So, you're saying go with the picatinny rail?

    Picatinny rails are compatible with Weaver base components, but the Weaver base is not always compatible with Picatinny components.

    If you don't mind the look of a lot of extra grooves in your scope base, get the Picatinny.

    With a Picatinny you get more adjustment on where you want the rings. A Weaver base usually only gives you 1 or 2 places to mount the rings.


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  • Mr. Patis
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    The tps base also have the recoil stop/lug...i think it's
    cheaper than the badger

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  • jrpowell3
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    Originally posted by Yerman
    That's the recoil lug for your action. Quality bases also have them to prevent the base/scope from moving under recoil.
    Gotcha. Thank you for the explanation. Badger ordnance, as referenced by you, has that integral recoil lug.

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  • Yerman
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    Originally posted by jrpowell3
    Yerman, which recoil lug? I thought the lug was on the bottom of the action and engaged with the stock
    That's the recoil lug for your action. Quality bases also have them to prevent the base/scope from moving under recoil.

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  • jrpowell3
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    Originally posted by JMP
    I favor a picatinny rail with 0 MOA. Then, I get a one-piece mount of my choosing to get to a desirable cant for the scope. Then, my scopes don't really ever need to be removed from the mount and it's easy to swap scopes on different rifles.
    What rings do you use?

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  • jrpowell3
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    Yerman, which recoil lug? I thought the lug was on the bottom of the action and engaged with the stock
    Last edited by jrpowell3; 10-26-2016, 6:43 AM.

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  • JMP
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    I favor a picatinny rail with 0 MOA. Then, I get a one-piece mount of my choosing to get to a desirable cant for the scope. Then, my scopes don't really ever need to be removed from the mount and it's easy to swap scopes on different rifles.

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