Price Gouging

[JackRydden224]

All bottled water is a super premium. My gf won't drink tap water even tho we're directly at the source in tahoe and crystal geyser comes out of Modesto or something and is 6 bucks a crate that gets used in 2 days.

That's just marketing and brainwashing....

[riderr]

Look there are people who are willing to pay more for the stuff they want, guns or other things in life. I guarantee you there will be people paying $1,000 for a Glock because they want the newest (and maybe the best) but I think the majority of the people will just go with a Gen 3 for half as much. This is just how it is being a gun owner in California so I'm not sure why people would complain about it.

Next year a lot of us would know the roster like the back of our hands

If one aims to find a cheaper roster substitute, they can easily do it for pretty much any mainstream brand. If you want to get the exact model, well... you'll have to pay higher premium next year.

[JackRydden224]

If one aims to find a cheaper roster substitute, they can easily do it for pretty much any mainstream brand. If you want to get the exact model, well... you'll have to pay higher premium next year.

Exactly!

For me I can substitute a Glock Gen4 and M&P with a XD. I've shot a Springer Precision tuned XD40 and it's every bit as nice as a tuned Glock or M&P with Apex. On the other hand I can't really find a replacement for a commander sized 1911 in an alloy frame and bobtailed so I'm going to grab myself a DW Guardian (excuses and more excuses to buy guns...)

[letsgosteelers]

Don't the Gen 3's go off roster Dec 31, 2014?

I think I recall seeing the G23 has that date, not sure about others.

Someone commented you can get Gen4 next year for less? How do you do that if SSE goes away?


Update: I could have sworn I saw 2014 when I checked a couple weeks ago for the end date on the G23. Now I see it says 2015 ???

[JTROKS]

Even with the demand of Gen4 Glocks that cant be added to the roster it will be unwise if they let the Gen3 fallout of the roster, unless production just can't support both generation.

Don't the Gen 3's go off roster Dec 31, 2014?

I think I recall seeing the G23 has that date, not sure about others.

Someone commented you can get Gen4 next year for less? How do you do that if SSE goes away?

[letsgosteelers]

Here is the *current* list...

Model Gun Type Barrel Length Caliber Exp Date
26 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" 9mm 12/31/2015
26 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" 9mm 12/22/2015
27 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .40 S&W 12/31/2015
27 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .40 S&W 11/1/2015
33 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .357 SIG 12/31/2015
33 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .357 SIG 11/16/2015
39 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .45 GAP 7/13/2015
39 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.46" .45 GAP 2/27/2015
29 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" 10mm 4/4/2015
29 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" 10mm 11/1/2015
29SF (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" 10mm 12/30/2015
30 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 12/31/2015
30 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 11/1/2015
30SF / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 4/21/2015
36 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 12/31/2015
36 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 3.78" .45 ACP 11/1/2015
19 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" 9mm 12/31/2015
19 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" 9mm 11/16/2015
19C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" 9mm 6/4/2015
23 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .40 S&W 12/31/2015
23 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .40 S&W 4/25/2015
23C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .40 S&W 3/6/2015
32 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .357 SIG 12/31/2015
32 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .357 SIG 11/1/2015
32C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .357 SIG 4/17/2015
38 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .45 GAP 7/13/2015
38 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.02" .45 GAP 1/17/2015
17 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 12/31/2015
17 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 11/1/2015
17C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 1/9/2015
17RTF2 (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" 9mm 7/2/2015
22 - FBI 100 Yr. Commemorative (Blk) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 1/29/2015
22 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 12/31/2015
22 C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 2/13/2015
22 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 11/16/2015
22RTF2 (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .40 S&W 12/30/2015
31 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .357 SIG 12/31/2015
31 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .357 SIG 4/25/2015
31C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .357 SIG 4/17/2015
G-37 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .45 GAP 1/27/2015
G-37 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.49" .45 GAP 11/1/2015
20 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 12/31/2015
20 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 12/22/2015
20C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 1/9/2015
20SF (Black) / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" 10mm 12/30/2015
21 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" .45 ACP 12/31/2015
21 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" .45 ACP 12/22/2015
21C / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.60" .45 ACP 2/1/2015
21SF-STD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 4.61" .45 ACP 6/14/2015
34 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" 9mm 2/1/2015
34 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" 9mm 2/14/2015
35 / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" .40 S&W 12/31/2015
35 OD / Steel, Polymer Pistol 5.32" .40 S&W 11/16/2015

[letsgosteelers]

Even with the demand of Gen4 Glocks that cant be added to the roster it will be unwise if they let the Gen3 fallout of the roster, unless production just can't support both generation.

I thought S&W & Glock are not recertifying their handguns that fall-off the roster for sale in CA due to the new requirements, ie. micro-stamp, etc.

Seriously, did Glock get an extension of some sort? I could have sworn I saw several 2014's dates on that list ?

[bulletblood]

Most of the people who will want vp9s or ppqs will have them by the end of the year. There will be an initial markup next year but that will die down as most who want, will have. Next year the roster will probably be overturned and in a couple years, after all the legal battles are over, there will be no roster to worry about. New shooters and old shooters will be able to buy whatever the heck they want.

Now if the roster doesn't get overturned then the guns with the real markups will be the new models that will come out in the years to come. The few that make it into the state through family transfer, transplants, and LEOs, will demand buco dinero.

[letsgosteelers]

Lanbo's Armory Glock Clearance Sale

I received an email from Lanbo's Armory, they are having a Glock blowout.
Not sure if they are still in stock but no gouging here.

Gen 3 Pistols:
GLOCK 17 9MM FS 17RD - $462.00
GLOCK 17C COMPENSATED 9MM FS 17RD - $487.20
GLOCK 19 9MM COMPACT FS 15RD - $462.00
GLOCK 21 45ACP FS 10RD - $505.05
GLOCK 21 45ACP FS 13RD - $505.05
GLOCK 21C COMPENSATED 45ACP FS 10RD - $549.15
GLOCK 22 40SW FS 10RD - $462.00
GLOCK 22 40SW FS 15RD - $462.00
GLOCK 22 40SW FS 15RD USA - $462.00
GLOCK 22C COMPENSATED 40SW FS 10RD - $487.20
GLOCK 23 40SW COMPACT FS 13RD - $462.00
GLOCK 27 40S&W SUBCOMPACT FS 9RD - $462.00
GLOCK 32 357SIG FS 13RD - $462.00
GLOCK 35 40S&W PRACTICAL/TACTICAL 15RD - $552.30
GLOCK 36 45ACP FS 6RD - $505.05

Gen 4 Pistols:
GLOCK 22 GEN4 40SW FS 15RD 3 MAGS - $498.75
GLOCK 26 GEN4 9MM FS 10RD 3 MAGS - $498.75


Don't let the high cap models deter you, they can ship w/o the hi-cap mags to CA and possibly issue a credit if they don't have the mags you need.

Landon is very easy to work with.

[SkyHawk]

Some of us may take off roster gun ownership for granted because we are educated about the situation and have had plenty of time to get what we want. But there are new shooters entering the market every day and that will be true in 2015 and beyond. Couple that with more CCWs expected to be issued over the next few years, and you can bet there will be a large demand for off roster guns especially the smaller ones. Plus, many people just want what they can't get - for no other reason than that. That especially applies to firearms.

And the pistol roster is only getting smaller. Unless the roster is thrown out completely or some new miracle legal way of SSEing almost any semi auto appears, an off roster pistol is only going to appreciate in value. No one is going to find a $350 Gen 4 Glock in CA in the coming years, period. An $800 Glock 42, a $600 LCP, a $1200 Glock 41 - there will be buyers.

[Stuttgart]

I thought S&W & Glock are not recertifying their handguns that fall-off the roster?

I think you're thinking of Ruger, not Glock.

[letsgosteelers]

I think you're thinking of Ruger, not Glock.

I honestly thought I had seen that about Glock. thanks for the clarification
So they are going to meet all the reqs after 2015?

[PhillyGunner]

Thread on the Glock topic. Glock re-upped the remaining Gen 3s to 2015
near the bottom of page one.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=977779

As long as Glock continues to manufacture the Gen 3s in Austria, doesn't change them & pays the DOJ on time they should be able to renew until they don't want to.

[Dinosaur Jr]

Most of the people who will want vp9s or ppqs will have them by the end of the year. There will be an initial markup next year but that will die down as most who want, will have. Next year the roster will probably be overturned and in a couple years, after all the legal battles are over, there will be no roster to worry about. New shooters and old shooters will be able to buy whatever the heck they want.

Hoping sanity and justice will prevail.
The roster and microstamping are an obvious defacto ban based on attrition.

[colossians323]

what was the point of this thread again?