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  • Fishslayer
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2010
    • 13035

    Keeping it legal bugging out

    The fires had me seriously pondering "What goes? What stays?" Yes, my safe is rated for an hour but dayum... those fires look like they get pretty hot.

    Found one of these in my shed. I believe I got it at Home Depot. More robust than a Walmart crate. Dark color so you can't see inside. It has locking points on both ends so it should satisfy the "locked container" requirement. Home Depot also sells lock sets.


    "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
    You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
    You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


    Originally Posted by JackRydden224
    I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
    Originally posted by redcliff
    A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.
  • #2
    speedrrracer
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3355

    Yeah, it's not a much-discussed topic, but it has serious ramifications. Bugging out because your house is about to burn down, your family needs you more than ever, and you get arrested?

    There was a thread like this recently in the (more appropriate) survival forum, and the OP actually thought if he shot someone in self-defense while illegally carrying concealed during a bug-out the arresting officers would let him go under some "exemption" (his words). I kid you not...

    While we all hope that in a stressful situation our LEOs will use their experience and training to exhibit extraordinary discretion, the fact is you're rolling dice on a bet you can't cover. A box as pictured in the OP is dirt cheap, will last decades, is highly practical and will keep you legal.

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    • #3
      Rider1k
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 1939

      Remember Katrina? I suspect it would go down the same. If you have guns or are seen with them they will take them by force. If you are shooting you will be shot.

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      • #4
        Oceanbob
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2010
        • 12720

        Originally posted by Fishslayer
        The fires had me seriously pondering "What goes? What stays?" Yes, my safe is rated for an hour but dayum... those fires look like they get pretty hot.

        Found one of these in my shed. I believe I got it at Home Depot. More robust than a Walmart crate. Dark color so you can't see inside. It has locking points on both ends so it should satisfy the "locked container" requirement. Home Depot also sells lock sets.

        L]
        Great idea!

        These fires down south that 40,000 people have evacuated. Maybe more...

        I wonder if any Cal Gunners are involved?

        What to grab on the way out?
        May the Bridges I burn light the way.

        Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

        Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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        • #5
          Virus55
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 1697

          Ugh I would be in a panic of which stays and what goes? Safe is also rated for an hour of fire.
          Active Law Enforcement
          Certified Glock Armorer
          Hunter & Fisherman
          God Bless The USA
          Lets Go Brandon!!!

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          • #6
            John Joseph
            Banned
            • Jan 2014
            • 789

            (chuckles) It used to be illegal to transport a firearm inside a vehicle in California unless it was both unloaded and in full view.
            My how times have changed!
            So you legally want to evacuate a bunch of pistols? That should work, also a locking tool box, even a suitcase with locks I think would satisfy the need.
            If you have to some behind, cache a locked metal gun vault inside your fireplace. If it can keep fire and heat in, it might keep fire and heat out.

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            • #7
              Murmur
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 659

              I had to evac on Wednesday. Still can't go home, but fortunately the fire never went down into our area.

              Just went through this drill of packing valuables into the car. It was a pain locking my handguns in individual containers. I am going to get a plastic bin like OP has pictured above. That will make the process much easier in a time crunch.
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              • #8
                Tok36
                Veteran Member
                • May 2013
                • 3061

                Originally posted by Fishslayer
                The fires had me seriously pondering "What goes? What stays?" Yes, my safe is rated for an hour but dayum... those fires look like they get pretty hot.

                Found one of these in my shed. I believe I got it at Home Depot. More robust than a Walmart crate. Dark color so you can't see inside. It has locking points on both ends so it should satisfy the "locked container" requirement. Home Depot also sells lock sets.


                It seams Master Lock has gone down hill over the years, might want to choose another lock.

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                • #9
                  sofbak
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2628

                  Originally posted by Rider1k
                  Remember Katrina? I suspect it would go down the same. If you have guns or are seen with them they will take them by force. If you are shooting you will be shot.
                  Didn't happen that way in '07. I got an emergency evac reverse 911 call when the Witch Creek fire hit our neighborhood. Got the family up, started to pack, load, and get ready to go.

                  While loading the truck, 5 SD county sheriff deputies appeared at the entrance gate to our sub-division (about 50 yds from my driveway), but couldn't get it open. So they were hanging on the gate shouting at the top of their lungs "GET OUT NOW!!!!". I could see the fire front coming down a large hill about 3/4 mile east of us, so the situation was definitely time critical.

                  I got the gate transmitter out of my truck, waved them off the gate and opened it so they could get in. Then went back to loading the truck with wife, kids, cats, boxes of irreplaceable and important stuff.

                  Last thing I put in the truck was the Mossberg 500C "chopped" home defense stick. Not loaded, but 5 shells in the butt stock carrier. There was no place in the cab left for it out of sight. So I put it on the dash.

                  Rolled out of the driveway toward the gate, and the deputy directing traffic through the intersection sees it and points at it:

                  "Is that loaded?"

                  "No, and I'm praying hard it stays that way."

                  He waved me through the gate with no other comment.
                  Tire kickers gonna kick,
                  Nose pickers gonna pick
                  I and others know the real

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                  • #10
                    LT1Silverhawk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 2063

                    Good topic. Might have to spend time this weekend doing an actual drill.


                    Just to add another option, I remember reading some survivalist blog a year or so ago and the author mentioned using one of these Stanley Job Boxes for throwing everything in and tossing it in the back of his vehicle. It is also lockable.


                    It was on sale a year ago and I posted about it here. Fellow members had good things to say.


                    It seems there is also a slightly smaller version (Stanley Mobile Chest) for $1.53 more. Probably the better option for smaller cars.


                    Last edited by LT1Silverhawk; 05-16-2014, 10:31 AM. Reason: gramur.
                    "...but I am still learning." - Jerry Miculek

                    "It is critical to understand this: Criminals don't fear guns. Criminals fear resolutely armed men or women they believe will actually shoot them." - Massad Ayoob

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                    • #11
                      dflanmod
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 56

                      Take them all. lost all my guns in 07 wildfires.
                      Trust me, your fire rating on a safe means jack &&#/ if your house burns to the ground.

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                      • #12
                        Fritz265
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 1523

                        I have that same mobile chest for my bug out. Pack out gun and ammo stash and toss into the back of the van and go.
                        "Those who fear your guns do so because they know they are guilty of things for which they should be shot"

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                        • #13
                          Murmur
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 659

                          Originally posted by dflanmod
                          Take them all. lost all my guns in 07 wildfires.
                          Trust me, your fire rating on a safe means jack &&#/ if your house burns to the ground.
                          Wow that really sucks.
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                          • #14
                            Rider1k
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1939

                            Originally posted by sofbak
                            Didn't happen that way in '07. I got an emergency evac reverse 911 call when the Witch Creek fire hit our neighborhood. Got the family up, started to pack, load, and get ready to go.

                            While loading the truck, 5 SD county sheriff deputies appeared at the entrance gate to our sub-division (about 50 yds from my driveway), but couldn't get it open. So they were hanging on the gate shouting at the top of their lungs "GET OUT NOW!!!!". I could see the fire front coming down a large hill about 3/4 mile east of us, so the situation was definitely time critical.

                            I got the gate transmitter out of my truck, waved them off the gate and opened it so they could get in. Then went back to loading the truck with wife, kids, cats, boxes of irreplaceable and important stuff.

                            Last thing I put in the truck was the Mossberg 500C "chopped" home defense stick. Not loaded, but 5 shells in the butt stock carrier. There was no place in the cab left for it out of sight. So I put it on the dash.

                            Rolled out of the driveway toward the gate, and the deputy directing traffic through the intersection sees it and points at it:

                            "Is that loaded?"

                            "No, and I'm praying hard it stays that way."

                            He waved me through the gate with no other comment.
                            That's how it should be.

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                            • #15
                              GimpsUnlimited
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1653

                              Great idea, OP. I will have to keep an eye out for such a container.
                              Lifetime NRA member.
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