Reloaded HD ammo?

[sammy]

I am most profecent with my Les Baer TRS at the moment. The gun only sees my 200g LSWC reloads and runs 100% with them. I don't want to spend the $200 or so bucks finding a self defense round that will run in the gun. Am I loosing anything by running a warm (950 fps.) 200g LSWC in the gun that I know will run, or do I need to spend the coin to get a dedicated HD round? Thanks, Sammy

[1lostinspace]

stick with what works

[tiko]

For home defense, you want hollow point to expand the bullet and stay inside the body, not over penetrated, also you want low speed and heavy grains, so all the kinetic energy will transfer to the body and knock it down.

[ldivinag]

i forget which tv show that runs on the OUTDOOR CHANNEL, but they recommend for HOME DEFENSE, or any CCW ammo, that you buy store bought ammo.

reason?

if you do HAVE to use it, and it goes to court, you can be questioned on so many things like, did you use too much powder, did you use the right bullet, etc...

in fact, the show even recommend you keep like 5 rounds from the box, and save the box too.

that way, you cant get into trouble due to your ammo use...


personally, i find that to be a good advice. reload all your range and practice ammo. but when it comes time to actually use for defense... i'd want factory stuff...

[JTROKS]

If your gun can feed LSWC it should be able to feed most hollow points. I'd stick to store bought stuff, unless you run out and have to use home brewed stuff. To tell you the truth I'd rather use my own handloads since I know they will work.

[What Just Happened?]

I would go with a hollowpoint round. You want a round that will expand when it hits the target to increase the wounding capability and decrease the chance of overpenetration. That's why hollowpoints are used.

But do make sure that you test out the rounds in your home defense gun. You don't want the rounds to hangup on the feed ramp or something when you depend on 100% functioning.

[CalNRA]

buy whatever your local store carries and you find reliable, preferrably a box of ammo that says "personal defense", and like others said keep 4-5 rounds of the stock rounds in the box just in case.

[J-cat]

For home defense, you want hollow point to expand the bullet and stay inside the body, not over penetrated, also you want low speed and heavy grains, so all the kinetic energy will transfer to the body and knock it down.

Lightweight bullets penetrate less than heavy bullets.

[mblat]

Hey, he is running .45! Why does he needs special HD round? I thought .45 kills on touch!!!!

Here list of the "good bullets":

Spend $50 for on couple boxes - run one though to make sure that it runs flawlessly in you gun - you found your cartridge.
Then it is only matter of finding "cheaper" version with similar recoil.

[J-cat]

i forget which tv show that runs on the OUTDOOR CHANNEL, but they recommend for HOME DEFENSE, or any CCW ammo, that you buy store bought ammo.

reason?

if you do HAVE to use it, and it goes to court, you can be questioned on so many things like, did you use too much powder, did you use the right bullet, etc...

in fact, the show even recommend you keep like 5 rounds from the box, and save the box too.

that way, you cant get into trouble due to your ammo use...


personally, i find that to be a good advice. reload all your range and practice ammo. but when it comes time to actually use for defense... i'd want factory stuff...

It is really naive to think that the use of politically correct ammunition will improve your chances of winning a self-defense argument.

[Spyder]

Use what works. If your home loaded ammo is flawless and you've fired thousands of rounds of it, use it. Unless you want to buy and fire an equal number of rounds of factory stuff, that is...

[mblat]

It is really naive to think that the use of politically correct ammunition will improve your chances of winning a self-defense argument.

No it is really naive to think that modern jury will be smart enough to throw away "gun nut producing his own deadly variety of ammo" argument away. If you WILL get in court why give prosecutor one more argument, no matter how ridiculous it sounds to you and me?

[1lostinspace]

For home defense, you want hollow point to expand the bullet and stay inside the body, not over penetrated, also you want low speed and heavy grains, so all the kinetic energy will transfer to the body and knock it down.

If you are looking for a good and cheap round the Golden Saber in 185+P is a great choice and will not break the bank. Gold dots, Winchester Ranger ammo, hell even Hydrashock. I choose 90gr RBCD ammo. I prefer a light fast fragmenting round instead of the deep penetrating round ( Got kids in the house) Everyone will tell you that the round must penetrate 12" for me 10" with a huge fragmenting hole is all I need. And yes it's a snake oil round but after my own personal tests I am sold on it.



i like the 110 gr version as well



for me it would be the last round I would want to get hit with, kind of hard to put you back together after one of those.

[gd-bh]

It is really naive to think that the use of politically correct ammunition will improve your chances of winning a self-defense argument.

I don't think the concept of using commercially purchased ammunition for self defense is designed to improve your chances of successfully defending your actions. The overall question whether you use your hands or an RPG to take out the attacker is going to remain the same.

However, in the myriad of details, and the over analysis of often unqualified and ignorant "monday morning quarterbacks" that will have months and months to think about and analyze your life changing, split-second decision to use deadly force, I believe it's a wise idea to limit their options as much as possible. By using factory loads, you have zero control over how those bullets performed.

Let the lottery winn.....oops...grieving family of your attacker have a go at the ammunition company's lawyers as they argue that the round was cruel and designed to kill poor Johnnie (who by the way was a good boy and would never hurt a fly, and I'm sure him being in your house at 3 am uninvited and armed was just a mistake) instead of you. I suspect they have much deeper pockets and a lot of scientific data that those MMQb's would be impressed by.

Given the morally corrupt environment we exist in, this seems like a very logical strategy to minimize the pain in a painful situation. But as you suggest, don't think for a split second think the ammo in the gun will change the ultimate question regarding justification.

[Sobriquet]

Save yourself a lot of hassle and research. I have an 18 page thread on .45acp JHP ammo for home defense on another forum.

Go on Ammo To Go and buy Federal HST 230gr jhp ammo. Standard pressure is my choice, but there's a +P variant.

Stay safe.