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  • Mooseknuckle
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 28

    Thoughts on Shadow Systems MR920 and XR920 California models

    I recently had the chance to handle the MR920 and XR920 and really liked the way they felt in the hand.

    Wanted to see what you guys thought of the California models and how they compare reliability wise to Glocks.
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    turbolarry
    Member
    • Jun 2024
    • 108

    I've never handled one but looking at these;

    I think they look like a cheap Polymer 80 frame, a funky cut slide and colored barrel. Oh yeah, and for ****s and giggles don't forget to slap a comp on 'em. I think if you swap the internals for Glock OEM parts it should be fairly reliable for range or competition. I think I wouldn't use it for a carry or duty weapon.
    These are just my thoughts though.

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    • #3
      acaligunner
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2008
      • 6105

      I thought I saw an ad for ss pistols and they were priced at around $800 to $900 dollars ( can’t remember if that is right ), but a OG Glock is still priced at $550 /$650 and they work.

      I don’t get to into the new gunnz- maybe I’m just set in my ways or maybe because more of what is old still works.

      Sorry bro - not much of an answer- good luck on whatever you find best for you. 🙂
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      • #4
        dfens
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 932

        I handled them a few times was tempted to buy one until I learned that the comped elite models are not CA legal. The frame from just holding it felt like cheap plastic no where near as good as a Glock or HK.

        Yeah it has all the Gucci slide cuts and that fancy fluted barrel and it's cut for optics but the for the price they are charging you think the trigger would have some work done to it. It was no better than a stock Glock trigger maybe even a little worse. They even say to break it in with 200 rounds before relying on one.

        Where I'm at a Shadow Systems costs 969.00 dollars vs a Glock at 500.00 dollars some places are charging 1,200.00 for one. At twice the price it better be for a good reason other than looking cool.

        When I handled a Walther PDP I was so ready to buy one on the spot if it wasn't a LEO model gave my VP9 a run for it's money.

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        • #5
          Mooseknuckle
          Junior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 28

          As far as plastic pistols go I’ve only had stock Glocks and H&K’s. The MR920 allows for a higher grip than a G19 and seemed to point a little better. I just have the urge to get something new while I’m waiting for the Walther PDP to become available.

          I think the MR920 I looked at was priced around $900. Which didn’t seem terrible considering it’s already optic cut and has somewhat nice iron sights.

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          • #6
            Capybara
            CGSSA Coordinator
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2012
            • 14489

            I'm undecided. I've never shot one but have handled several at my dealer. They seem like a fancier Glock to me. I don't give a shyte about visual appeal so colored barrels and slide cuts do nothing for me. They seem like a nice gun but I just bought a Gen 3 G19 new so I am set for Glocks, have a 17 and 19.
            AB1127 will ban the Shadow Systems as well as the Glocks so if you want one, better buy it quick. To me, they seem a bit expensive for a fancier Camry of handguns, might look slick but it's still a Camry.
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            • #7
              SDDAVE56
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 1653

              Sounds like lipstick on a pig to me.

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              • #8
                Capybara
                CGSSA Coordinator
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2012
                • 14489

                Originally posted by SDDAVE56
                Sounds like lipstick on a pig to me.
                There is a huge market out there that absolutely adores Glocks and by buying a Shadow Systems, you are essentially buying a Glock that is pre-tricked out, integrated and has a factory warranty. For that crowd, the Shadow Systems seems ideal.
                I'm frankly not a huge Glock fan and other than replacing the sights and adding a Handle It Grip Edge system, mine are stock. I like pretty much everything about them minus the trigger and the grip that feels like holding a 2 x 4. Glock triggers are hopeless
                in my opinion, every tricked out one I've felt pales in comparison to a 1911 or my CZ75 B triggers so I don't think that can be overcame. And the grip width and feel, that's what makes it a Glock. Amazingly in spite of these shortcomings, I shoot mine
                fairly well and I think that's where the beauty of the Glock lies.

                The funky grip angle and width, awkward feel, the crappy, spongy trigger, yet they are still great shooters and I think that is their secret sauce. They are pretty reliable and you can hit what you are trying to hit. All of the other things are somewhat superfluous, at least for a
                duty or CCW gun. I enjoy shooting "better" guns more but it's hard to argue with the results when you look at your targets. They aren't a target pistol but as far as grouping nicely at the range, they do the work. I get the Glock fanaticism, they are good guns. But in an
                unconventional sense.
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                • #9
                  SDDAVE56
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 1653

                  I wanted to like Glocks. I shot several friends Glocks, and that's where things started to unravel. Lets just my results were dismal, at best. I will say, never had a malfunction with one. Just not the right fit for me.

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                  • #10
                    Capybara
                    CGSSA Coordinator
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 14489

                    Originally posted by SDDAVE56
                    I wanted to like Glocks. I shot several friends Glocks, and that's where things started to unravel. Lets just my results were dismal, at best. I will say, never had a malfunction with one. Just not the right fit for me.
                    But I bet some of your friends are really good with their Glocks? I've seen Glock shooters do amazing things in competition. But yes, you can either put up with their design compromises or not. Glocks are pretty polarizing.
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                    • #11
                      SDDAVE56
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1653

                      Originally posted by Capybara

                      But I bet some of your friends are really good with their Glocks? I've seen Glock shooters do amazing things in competition. But yes, you can either put up with their design compromises or not. Glocks are pretty polarizing.
                      Most shot really well with theirs. Some shot well enough to pass a qual. One was having trouble, so I shot hers, and the results were the same. I don't know what my issues are with Glocks. That turned me off on polymer striker fired pistols. A few years ago I took a leap of faith, and purchased a S&W M&P Shield 9. Never fired one in my life. It's one of my carry guns now.

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                      • #12
                        Capybara
                        CGSSA Coordinator
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                        • Feb 2012
                        • 14489

                        Originally posted by SDDAVE56

                        Most shot really well with theirs. Some shot well enough to pass a qual. One was having trouble, so I shot hers, and the results were the same. I don't know what my issues are with Glocks. That turned me off on polymer striker fired pistols. A few years ago I took a leap of faith, and purchased a S&W M&P Shield 9. Never fired one in my life. It's one of my carry guns now.
                        I have had a Glock for years as well as I have an H&K VP9L. I've carried a Shield 1.0 and then later a Shield Plus PC and I have a Ruger Max 9. All plastic, striker fired guns. This year, I have bought a CZ75 B, a Beretta PX4 Storm and I just bought a Springfield Loaded Marine Corps Operator 1911. I have seen the light and the revelation is that striker fired pistols pale in comparison to metal hammer fired pistols for trigger and for feel when shooting. I'll still carry them as there aren't a lot of metal hammer fired pistols that are a good size and weight to carry that are on the roster, but I will be carrying the Storm on my next renewal. When I am shooting for fun though, it's going to be metal and hammer fired, the triggers are so much better.
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                        • #13
                          acaligunner
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6105

                          The Glock 30 and the Glock 26 have been very accurate out of all my other Glocks. The H&K’s are a touch more accurate in my hands.

                          1911 is just in another class.
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                          • #14
                            Capybara
                            CGSSA Coordinator
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 14489

                            Originally posted by acaligunner

                            1911 is just in another class.
                            Agree, 100%. Not the right gun for every job but for pure shooting pleasure, few compare.

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                            • #15
                              static2126
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 5618

                              Shadow systems imo has the best glock style frame

                              They did have some teething issues but a shadow systems frame with oem glock parts is an excellent gun

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