Ventura

[Gray Peterson]

UPDATE (2014 April 12): The sheriff now accepts "self-defense" as sufficient Good Cause.

According to the VCSO "CCW Policy" (.pdf linked at: http://www.vcsd.org/ccw-permits.php), under "2. QUALIFIED APPLICANTS":

g. For purposes of this policy in reference to good cause, a need for personal safety or self-defense is currently satisfactory, depending on the ultimate appellate outcome of Peruta v. County of San Diego.

[squee116]

Now that Peruta has given us hope, has anyone tried contacting the Sheriff's office to see if policies are going to be changed? Is that even smart at this juncture?

[kemasa]

Here is his statement:

Community Message has been issued by the Ventura County Sheriff's Office.

Friday February 14, 2014 11:31 AM PST

Sheriff Dean Comments on Federal Court of Appeals Decision on Cal. Concealed Weapons Permits #sheriffvc

Nature of Incident: Sheriff Comments on Federal Court of Appeals Case Decision Regarding California Concealed Weapons (C.C.W.) Permits

Location: Ventura County
Date & Time: February 14, 2014 @ 11:30 a.m.
Unit(s) Responsible: Sheriff’s Administration

Narrative:
A three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit made a significant ruling regarding the issuance of concealed weapons permits and what criteria may or may not be used in denying a permit. California laws currently authorize citizens to carry a concealed weapon upon receiving a permit that is based on a showing of good cause to need to carry, having good moral character, and passing a background check.

The court has struck down the good cause portion of the current law. Our legal staff is actively reviewing the case to clearly understand what guidelines will now be in place. I will, of course, comply with those guidelines and make changes in our current policy as soon as the details are clarified.

Prepared by: Sheriff Geoff Dean
Media Release Date: February 14, 2013
Follow-Up Contact: Sheriff Geoff Dean (805) 654-2315

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For full details, go to https://local.nixle.com/alert/5147024/?sub_id=524859.

[glock22fs]

So I actually talked to Sheriff Dean in person about his CCW policies a few weeks ago asking about his wildly varying acceptable GC statements and he said he wouldnt issue to "Average Joes" because he wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing he allowed normal citizens to carry guns. I suggest we all pitch in to buy him some ambien

[One78Shovel]

So I actually talked to Sheriff Dean in person about his CCW policies a few weeks ago asking about his wildly varying acceptable GC statements and he said he wouldnt issue to "Average Joes" because he wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing he allowed normal citizens to carry guns. I suggest we all pitch in to buy him some ambien

That's why Dean is an Un-Constitutional Sheriff and needs voted out at first opportunity

-178S

[Edgy01]

That's just it. I'd rather see "normal citizens" having the license!

Dan

[Quiet]

Ventura County Sheriff's Department just implemented a new change to their carry permit issuance policy.

http://www.vcsd.org/pdf/26160_CCW_policy_ammended022114A.pdf

2. Qualified Applicants
g. For purposes of this policy in reference to good cause, a need for personal safety or self-defense is currently satisfactory, depending on the ultimate appellate outcome of Peruta v. County of San Diego.

[PistolGuy]

Ventura County Sheriff's Department just implemented a new change to their carry permit issuance policy.

http://www.vcsd.org/pdf/26160_CCW_po...ded022114A.pdf

I saw this too and was interested but this part stumps me a little.

"For purposes of this policy in reference to good cause, a need for personal safety or self- defense is currently satisfactory, depending on the ultimate appellate outcome of Peruta v. County of San Diego."

So, our 'self defense' good cause is ok? For now? With the Attorney General appealing it, what does that mean?

[*Zombie Killer*]

I saw this too and was interested but this part stumps me a little.

"For purposes of this policy in reference to good cause, a need for personal safety or self- defense is currently satisfactory, depending on the ultimate appellate outcome of Peruta v. County of San Diego."

So, our 'self defense' good cause is ok? For now? With the Attorney General appealing it, what does that mean?

It appears that using "self defense" or "personal safety" as a "good cause" is sufficient. However, the outcome of Peruta could change that back to it's original policy.

[PistolGuy]

I think I may go for it after reading this today ...

http://bearingarms.com/ninth-circuit-crushes-another-good-cause-permitting-scheme-in-richards-v-prieto/

[Paladin]

Ventura County Sheriff's Department just implemented a new change to their carry permit issuance policy.

http://www.vcsd.org/pdf/26160_CCW_po...ded022114A.pdf

Sounds like we NEED some "clean" applicants to apply IMMEDIATELY to find out if they, in fact, will issue for mere "self-defense."

If they do, then we need to get as many CGNers as possible to apply so that even if Peruta gets pulled and Ventura could legally go back to restrictive issuance they won't because of the political cost.

[RedMonkey]

Sounds like we NEED some "clean" applicants to apply IMMEDIATELY to find out if they, in fact, will issue for mere "self-defense."

If they do, then we need to get as many CGNers as possible to apply so that even if Peruta gets pulled and Ventura could legally go back to restrictive issuance they won't because of the political cost.

There's a couple of threads on the subject. Someone mentioned VCSD had received or has appointments made for around 3K applications since the announcement.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=905138

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=897159

[Ironspirit]

VCSD CCW

I called two weeks ago and have my appointment second week of June.

[court]

Just dropped my application

I literally just delivered my application,did my fingerprinting, and paid the fee. I have to admit that the staff was extremely friendly and helpful. Now the wait begins.

[Roterhd]

I have been waiting since May, got called for the interview last week, go in tomorrow. Glad I don't need to talk to a lawyer..yet.