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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Glock-23
    Yes, already shared with you. JSU sent you a PM.
    Ha! This shows people their personal info is secure with me. I delete PMs within a few days and can't keep track of all the people who PM me, so even under torture I won't be able to say who said what.

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  • Glock-23
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    Yes, already shared with you. JSU sent you a PM.


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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by Glock-23
    Yes, I can confirm that Sheriff Essick is issuing to Saint Rosa City residents.
    Hopefully, this puts "the nail in the coffin" for people who live in Sonoma Co cities with their own PDs and aren't sure about applying.

    Unless you already shared with me privately, care to give us an idea of what your GC was like?

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  • Glock-23
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    FWIW a CGNer contacted me via PM and shared info which supports Sonoma Co SO issuing according to a "light green" standard.

    They also heard of another applicant who, when they used only SD = GC (the "darker half" of dark green), was told they were preliminarily approved but asked to provide more info. (FWIW the "lighter half" of dark green is where you describe where/how in your normal life (at an ATM vs hiking in wilderness, etc) you could be vulnerable and how you would respond to various speculative threats/attacks.)

    3 character reference letters for GMC are still required.


    Yes, I can confirm that Sheriff Essick is issuing to Saint Rosa City residents.


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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by sigstroker
    When I lived in Sonoma County (Petaluma) I seldom felt threatened. Which always seems to be the case - easy CCW where you don't need it. But I worked in San Rafael, where I can't say I felt safe all the time at all. Would something like that help?
    From what I'm hearing, I'd say if that was your current situation, you'd likely get issued by Essick, so apply and try and let us know. I suggest also including news articles re. incidents in San Rafael/Marin Co. and state DOJ/fed DOJ/FBI stats re. crime it's crime rate as evidence/proof of GC.
    Last edited by Paladin; 04-26-2019, 5:02 PM.

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  • sigstroker
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    When I lived in Sonoma County (Petaluma) I seldom felt threatened. Which always seems to be the case - easy CCW where you don't need it. But I worked in San Rafael, where I can't say I felt safe all the time at all. Would something like that help?

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by beenawhile
    So a "light green" good cause is SD plus another cause ?
    Typical light green type GCs are a hobby that has some associated risk of attack (hiking in wilderness with spotty/no cell coverage and/or long LE response times) or that makes you a target (amateur videographer with high end ($$$) equipment) and proof/evidence of such (photos of you hiking in said wilderness, receipts for your equipment, etc.) This is where "avid shooter" who regularly takes several semi auto handguns, rifles and/or shotguns with hundreds of rounds for each to and from a range usually every month (plus proof), works for most of us.

    As mentioned above, a GC describing your normal, non-business related activities and where you may be vulnerable to attack (e.g., withdrawing cash at ATMs at night, walking your dog alone at night, walking alone from work, etc), would pass in the "light side" of dark green. The "dark side" of dark green only requires "self-defense" or "personal protection" as GC.

    Don't forget we're still learning about what Essick requires. We haven't explored the limits, the minimal that may pass. Since the map has Sonoma Co currently at light green and says it may be off by 1 color, that means if you only have SD = GC (i.e., would only pass in a dark green county), even you should try applying (if you can afford to waste the time, money and effort involved) because you may have a chance. ETA: But I can't figure out why anyone would only put SD = GC when they could say "Getting cash at ATMs and filling my gas tank at night. Here's my receipts showing times of day."

    If you do apply, make a post or PM me to let us know how it went (but without so much detail as to ID yourself), and so we can keep the map current and useful.

    ETA2: I'd recommend to anyone thinking of applying with any non-dark green county to at least read over once the first 3 posts of my CCW Advice thread at: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1482924 It's probably overkill for Sonoma Co, but couldn't hurt.
    Last edited by Paladin; 04-26-2019, 10:49 AM.

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  • beenawhile
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    Originally posted by Paladin
    I was informed of yet another person getting issued using a "light green" GC and they live in a city with its own PD.
    So a "light green" good cause is SD plus another cause ?

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  • Paladin
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    I was informed of yet another person getting issued using a "light green" GC and they live in a city with its own PD.

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  • Paladin
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    FWIW a CGNer contacted me via PM and shared info which supports Sonoma Co SO issuing according to a "light green" standard.

    They also heard of another applicant who, when they used only SD = GC (the "darker half" of dark green), was told they were preliminarily approved but asked to provide more info. (FWIW the "lighter half" of dark green is where you describe where/how in your normal life (at an ATM at night vs hiking in wilderness, etc) you could be vulnerable and how you would respond to various speculative threats/attacks.)

    3 character reference letters for GMC are still required.
    Last edited by Paladin; 04-26-2019, 5:03 PM.

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  • Paladin
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    Originally posted by dgc357
    and last time I applied (during the Peruta days) my application was sent back and I was told to apply to the SRPD because I was in the city limits.
    I read Essick is issuing to all city residents as well as county residents. Not sure if that was earlier in this thread or via PM. Just give them a quick call, or email, or PM via Facebook.

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  • dgc357
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    Are the people who are applying and receiving permits located in the unincorporated areas of SoCo? I’m in The Santa Rosa city limits and last time I applied (during the Peruta days) my application was sent back and I was told to apply to the SRPD because I was in the city limits.

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  • Glock-23
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    Originally posted by estrom
    Did you personally apply in January? If so, 1)please update the progress, and 2)what did your GC look like?



    It would be really valuable for those who have begun the process under Essick to provide updates and any information (e.g GC info.) they can offer.

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  • TheBest
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    Sounds like you have GC, but you may have a restriction like "at work" or "for work purposes". Add something that involves non-work?

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  • 240z
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    Moving to Sonoma County

    Hi all,

    I live in Solano county at the moment and have my CCW issued by the Sheriff there.

    Unfortunately, it is likely that I will be moving to Sonoma county later this year. I am originally from the Sonoma County area and I also currently work there.

    My Solano CCW renewal is mid June this year, so I will likely not waste time doing that before I move, but after reading through and keeping an eye on this thread for quite a while now, it is not clear to me that I would have a reasonable chance of obtaining my CCW in Sonoma County?

    Some background:

    I am squeaky clean. No tickets, no arrests, no credit problems, nothing.

    I think I have a pretty solid good cause, as I frequently, but irregularly have to carry large sums of cash. This cash cannot be picked up by an armored car service as it is completely unpredictable when cash will come in, and the premises are not secure enough to leave it. In fact, when it does come in, it is often near the end of the day, so there would be no time to arrange for a pickup in any case.

    Our bank branch was also held up last year, just minutes before I arrived that day.

    Any insight as to how the CCW process is going this year?

    Thanks

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