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Originally Posted By CTbuilder1 @ arfcom:
A lot of time and energy goes into thinking up ways to make perfectly good rifles into something dumb. Single shot ARs are gay. AR pistols are also gay. Just my opinion, of course, but a single shot AR pistol would be an AIDS cannon.Comment
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Was just informed on the other CCW forum that it will probably take from 10 to 13 months to receive training and range dates.
So I'll wait a couple more months, at a minimum, before I start bugging them.Comment
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Oh boy you are in for a good one, I was in the same boat....you better keep a close watch on the phone calla you get....once your BG is cleared they will call you to schedule your range class and if you dont answer you are ahit out of luck for that class, you call em back and they will tell you they are full to wait for next class and next phone call....its a bull**** system....so keep their phone numbers saved , you are in for a good head ache
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Whats up with these BS paper that you need to laminate as a CCW permit?.... this piece of **** is odd sized and wont fit on any regular size wallet, not to mention it looks fake as ****....anyone know why in the flying **** SBSd is not issuing legitimate ccw cards anymore?....after 500 bucks id expect better services
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As I posted before:
I scanned mine and reduced the size down to fit a 2.4 in x 3.8 inch Scotch Self-Sealing Laminating Pouch. With a little trimming, it now fits my wallet ID window. I put the original in the my file cabinet with the renewal paperwork packet for safe keeping."I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
Roy BattyComment
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Thats great and all, but my point is , why are they giving some a card and others a piece of paper?... theres no reason why you have to go out of your way to rescan and laminate things.... from the class they made it clear to keep CCW a secret, now you show up at Staples and hand a buncha liberal kids a form that says you carry a gun, now its not a secret and they look at you like a facken Columbine shooter...lol
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Under CA laws, the paper permit is the actual legal CA CCW permit. [PC 26175(a)(3)(A)]
Due to their system being compromised, the SBSD had to revert back to issuing the paper permit, until they got re-approved by the CA OAG to utilize a new plastic permit. [PC 26175(a)(3)(B)]
Historically (from what I can remember)...
~During the 1970s, CA OAG standardized the CA CCW permit and required it to be a specific size printed on a specific type of "rice" paper, that would fall apart after folding/unfolding it multiple times.
~Before the 1990s, it was not legal to laminate the paper permit.
~Before the 2010s, everyone in CA got the paper permit.
~Around the early-2010s, the CA OAG started to approve plastic cards that could be issued in addition to the paper permit. (permit holder got both, plastic for carrying and paper for safe keeping, because legally the paper permit was more important due to still being designated the actual permit)
~Effective 01-01-2017, the CA OAG approved plastic card legally became a valid alternative replacement to the paper permit. The requirement to print the paper permit on a specific type of paper was also removed.
~Effective 01-01-2024, the paper permit is still the official CA CCW permit and with CA OAG approval an issuing agency can issue an alterative permit (plastic card).
~On 02-14-2024, CA DOJ BOF submitted emergency regulations to make the CA DOJ approved plastic card the standard permit and the paper permit will become an alternative permit. The proposed regulations also details the format of the new standard plastic card, which issuing agencies will have to adopt before they can issue a plastic card permit.
^Note that the current format of the SBCSD issued plastic card does not meet these new proposed requirements. So, if these proposed regulations get adopted, SBCSD will need to stop issuing plastic cards and change their format, before they can start issuing plastic cards again.Last edited by Quiet; 02-16-2024, 6:02 PM.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain..."
Roy BattyComment
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I did my renewal last week and now I?m second guessing one of my listed guns I put on the application. Does anyone know if this can be changed during the actual class/qualifying?Comment
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Is the psych test now required for everyone in the process?Comment
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SBCSD has not changed their policy regarding psychological assessments for permit applicants and their policy still complies with current CA laws [PC 26190(e)] regarding CCW issuance.
SBCSD only requires it for applicants:
A. That have disclosed current or past mental health issues.
B. That are currently taking medication for mental health issues.
C. That have been reported (by their cohabitants, relatives, or co-workers) as being mentally unstable and a danger to themselves or others.
Notification that this needs to be done, in order to complete the processing of your CCW application, occurs after your interview date.
Penal Code 26190
(e)(1) If a psychological assessment on the initial application is required by the licensing authority, the license applicant shall be referred to a licensed psychologist acceptable to the licensing authority. The applicant may be charged for the actual cost of the assessment. In no case shall the amount charged to the applicant for the psychological assessment exceed the reasonable costs to the licensing authority.
(2) Additional psychological assessment of an applicant seeking license renewal shall be required only if there is compelling evidence of a public safety concern to indicate that an assessment is necessary. The applicant may be charged for the actual cost of the assessment. In no case shall the cost of psychological assessment exceed the reasonable costs to the licensing authority.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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