Los Angeles

[igs]

The Brentwood/Palo Alto/Montecito/etc. crowd will certainly be balking at the idea that any, say, eligible 23 year old who applies will be able to carry a loaded gun while walking around The Grove. I just don't see it happening in the way we think.

A constitutional republic is not a democracy.

[MajorCaliber]

If I were on the Supreme Court, I would rule:
1. NY (and every other state) that has a "good cause" requirement must accept "exercise of my fundamental right to self defense" as sufficient good cause and issue a CCW permit.
2. Every state west of the Mississippi River is part of the Old West, and for reasons of history and tradition, must permit open carry of a pair of Single-Action Army revolvers in an Old West-style double holster.
3. Bartenders can require open carriers to hand over their guns at the bar until they leave.
4. Bartenders must keep a side-by-side shotgun behind the bar.
5. Bars must have dancing girls in Can-Can costumes sitting and talking to bar customers.
6. At least once per hour, the girls must all get up on the bar and do a Can-Can dance.

Innovative jurisprudence indeed!

[MajorCaliber]

This is just +40 years of California born and raised disappointment talking - but I admire the optimism of a SCOTUS ruling going our way and it applying to us. California already makes up their own laws as they see fit, using the constitution as a mere suggestion (handgun roster) so what's to stop them from doing the same for new found carry laws? The Brentwood/Palo Alto/Montecito/etc. crowd will certainly be balking at the idea that any, say, eligible 23 year old who applies will be able to carry a loaded gun while walking around The Grove. I just don't see it happening in the way we think.

I agree that CA at the state level and local jurisdictions will immediately find other ways to restrict carry. The smaller and more process oriented the ruling, i.e. GC cant be required to issue a CCW, he easier it will be to obstruct. What we need is a broader, more results oriented ruling that focuses more on the end result such as all states must permit non-felons to carry in all public places, except the "sensitive places" described in Heller, either OC or CC without a permit. That will severely restrict but not eliminate their ability to obstruct, not that they wont try.

[AlexFitz]

This is just +40 years of California born and raised disappointment talking - but I admire the optimism of a SCOTUS ruling going our way and it applying to us. California already makes up their own laws as they see fit, using the constitution as a mere suggestion (handgun roster) so what's to stop them from doing the same for new found carry laws? The Brentwood/Palo Alto/Montecito/etc. crowd will certainly be balking at the idea that any, say, eligible 23 year old who applies will be able to carry a loaded gun while walking around The Grove. I just don't see it happening in the way we think.

Same 40 Plus years here. Hard to be positive with so much disappointment over the years but i also never thought i'd have a decent chance for a CCW in LA county. Some things are changing out there but well see.

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LA County CCW Progress [so far]
GC: Yellow
4/25/21: Mailed CCW app
5/10/21: Application received
06/9/21: $30 App Fee check Cashed
9/11/21est: Request for interview
9/30/21: Interview completed and Livescan done early w/CA and FBI completed
10/02/21: Firearms Livescan: completed
10/05/21: Emailed to officially do Livescan [6 to 8wks told for results]
11/26/21: I emailed them that 8 wks has passed
11/27/21: They emailed back “ Thank you, we will contact you when we receive your live scan results.”

[Howie Dub]

[stoogescv]

Only if it is a license that is restricted to certain activities, which I have not heard ever being the case in the past couple years in LA County. So no, you list your good cause as being protection because of risks being a real estate agent, but your license is not restricted to those activities.

[Howie Dub]

Only if it is a license that is restricted to certain activities, which I have not heard ever being the case in the past couple years in LA County. So no, you list your good cause as being protection because of risks being a real estate agent, but your license is not restricted to those activities.

Thanks stoogescv!

[Jamesymug562]

[anonymouscuban]

REELECT SHERIFF VILLANUEVA

[Hsu]

I think there's someone that opens the app and strips it of unnecessary documents. I know I included a few supporting cause docs but my interviewing deputy said it was not in her file.

[anonymouscuban]

I think there's someone that opens the app and strips it of unnecessary documents. I know I included a few supporting cause docs but my interviewing deputy said it was not in her file.

REELECT SHERIFF VILLANUEVA

[Paladin]

I just replied to your PM. Wish you the best!

[MajorCaliber]

I would send in copies of all your supporting documents with the application. I just don't see the downside. It may help and speed up the process, and even if they strip them off, you are no worse off.

[laufine]

Just update my reschedule result.
Received the call from the same officer, reschedule the interview to Jan. 20th afternoon.

[LA County Calgunner]

Well, at first blush there's good news and bad news.

Good news: By the time any recent permittees are ready to renew, I fully expect SCOTUS will have ruled that any kind of subjective GC requirement is unconstitutional, so that will alleviate the time and effort required to validate and evaluate GC statements.

Bad News: There will be an absolute flood of new applicants that will completely overwhelm LASO's existing systems.

It would not surprise me at all that SCOTUS takes it a step further and rules that states must permit at least one form of carry with no permit at all. (For instance NV requires a permit for concealed carry but none for open carry.) it is less clear how that would play out in CA.

Hopefully they have an online system by then