San Diego CCW

[Kate]

I carried pepper spray before I had the CCW. I still do.
Options options options. And a compact very bright flashlight.
You can blind someone rather well even in daylight.

GREAT points, Cessna!

I hesitate to mention it, but one CAN carry a knife most places too. And, it is trivial to have the knife in hand, ready, when you are in a place where your spidey sense tingles.

I hesitate to mention it because whenever I take training for/with the knife, almost the first thing they say is, "If you get in a knife fight, YOU will get cut. Be ready for it, accept it, and make sure you give more than you receive." (Apparently it is common for people to give up after the first cut, even if that cut was far from lethal. Never give up.)

My opinion is that if I am in a place where the knife is my best option, I screwed up long before that to get into the situation...

Katie

[Rorge Retson]

[WS6]

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...ne/coa/welcome

Appreciate you giving some solid info.

[luv2shoot]

No one in the sheriff's office, which is what you were implying.

[CessnaDriver]

I carried pepper spray before I had the CCW. I still do.
Options options options. And a compact very bright flashlight.
You can blind someone rather well even in daylight.

[Rorge Retson]

LOL Actually someone is...

No one in the sheriff's office, which is what you were implying.

[Kate]

I totally hear you! The months between sitting in my car crying my eyes out after being threatened and racing to my car, and the time I could legally carry were VERY difficult for me.

As an aside, when I applied the SDCSD clerk asked me what other methods of self defense I used, such as pepper spray, self defense classes, and such. Embarrassed, I had no response. But in the time between, I decided she was absolutely correct. I am not a victim unless I choose to be. I started self defense classes, and researched pepper sprays. (I had no idea pepper spray was such a complicated product!) For a month or two after I do the hand to hand update class, I feel like if someone has a gun pointed at my face within arm's distance, there is a better than 50-50 chance I win. That skill dies quickly, hence the need for regular updates. But that feeling might provide a more liberated feeling than the weapon.

A gun is great. I am much more comfortable with it. And, there is SO much you can do without the gun, even if your attacker is larger, but hopefully stupider.

Just a thought from someone who may have been in sort of your shoes...

Katie

[luv2shoot]

No one's out to get you, dude. Lighten up and be persistent.

LOL Actually someone is...and he’s a violent felon who tends to dabble with drugs and guns, hence the need for a permit. Fortunately he’s in custody at the moment for fighting with the police.

[Rorge Retson]

I certainly do hope that’s the case but am a bit discouraged by what I learned here. As for prioritization, my good cause, occupation, and documentation makes issuance a no brainer if I can ever get into the dang process. In my communications with the licensing folks, they have been very responsive, I’ll give them that. I’m just a bit frustrated they claimed to be 'closed' when they’re really not.

I think you're taking certain events personally, not taking in what other people are writing here, and creating your own narrative that doesn't fit with others' experience.

No one's out to get you, dude. Lighten up and be persistent.

[luv2shoot]

[Kate]

I don't believe this to be the case. As to my earlier post - I do think they are prioritizing on a case by case basis. This current time frame is about the time that they really started issuing two years ago. I know becuase I am due for renewal. Most likely they have their hands full with licenses that are about to expire. So what should they do? Honor appointments for new licenses or let current licenses expire for lack of resources to process renewals?

Anyway - just my observation.

I concur. I do not think they are trying to deny issuing permits. There was a person next to me who was getting their initial permit. I think they are just inundated with need for f2f, in-person appointments, and they are working through them as fast as humanly possible. There are just too many applications and too few of them, is my guess. They were certainly working through A LOT of people in the short time I was there.

You have had to wait a really long time, but I expect it will not be much longer.

Katie

[rice_man]

I don't believe this to be the case. As to my earlier post - I do think they are prioritizing on a case by case basis. This current time frame is about the time that they really started issuing two years ago. I know becuase I am due for renewal. Most likely they have their hands full with licenses that are about to expire. So what should they do? Honor appointments for new licenses or let current licenses expire for lack of resources to process renewals?

Anyway - just my observation.

[luv2shoot]

The other question is, she hasn't had a chance to update her address since she just moved down to SD a couple months ago and her CA ID still has her previous address in LA. However she is renting an apartment in SD and has the lease agreement and utility bills to prove residency. Is she good to go or does she need to go to the DMV to do an address change?

Thanks in advance for any help.

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...ne/coa/welcome

DMV address updates can be done online so it would be foolish to apply for a CCW while admitting you’re not complying with the law. I mean there are certainly worse violations out there and maybe they won’t care but why not get your house in order before applying? Why give them a reason to say no or further delay an already lengthy process?

[luv2shoot]

Katie, I appreciate your very thorough information. I’ve been following this page pretty closely for the past few months or so after applying for my initial CCW. I called and made an appointment in November, 2019. During the call, they gave me an appointment date in the first week of May, 2020 (which was just last week).

When I called, they hadn’t launched Permitium yet so I initially had the old application filled out. I saw the Permitium launch on their website and emailed them to see if my appointment was still valid or if I had to start all over again. They contacted me via email and said they would let me keep the May appointment date and that I should complete the online application. I did so and paid online as well. In Permitium it shows my May appointment date.

Fast forward to last week. With the lockdown in place, I contacted them by email a few days in advance to see if my appointment was still scheduled or if it would be delayed. I didn’t want to drive down there and not be allowed in.

Now this is what I find interesting in light of the above information. They emailed me back and said they were not open yet and to not show up for my appointment. They stated they would contact me directly when I could go for my appointment. So it seems they are picking and choosing whom to allow in. Although yours was a change to an existing license, you still met with someone at a window so it’s not like there aren’t people there or you can’t personally exchange documents. I feel as if they were being a bit disingenuous when they said they aren’t open then you’re reporting they are. It almost sounds like they’re trying to exploit the current situation to deny permits.

[ezaircon4jc]

Yes. I brought copies of everything I had submitted, including the application. However, I filled out the application incorrectly. (I claim there was ambiguity. ) So, I had to refill it out.

More detail if you want:
I was making administrative changes, but Permitium made me (well, at least that is how I recall it was. Maybe I was just filling out everything I could.) enter all the weapons and serial numbers. Apparently, if you are NOT changing the weapons, you are not supposed to put in the weapon info, because if you do, when the form goes to the DoJ, they think ALL the weapons changed, which requires different supporting paperwork, which clearly I didn't have, which will cause the paperwork to be rejected.

And, if that made no sense, well, I did not ask for any details from the Sheriff folks. I just refilled out the form WITHOUT the weapon info on it...

Katie

THANKS! Good to know when renewal time comes. *Note to self.. do NOT fill out the firearms section!!*