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Old 09-02-2012, 12:04 PM
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Default M&P Shield Vs. LC9

Has anyone handled both? How does the grip on the M&P compare to the LC9? I have only been able to get my hands on the LC9, and it was a bit thin for my liking. Hoping someone has had the chance to handle both, and can shed some light on this for me.
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M&P Shield is not available in CA yet. Heard first batch coming in Oct.
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Had the LC9 ans sold it after 50 rounds. picking up the Shield this Tuesday.
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M&P Shield is not available in CA yet. Heard first batch coming in Oct.
I just figured/hoped someone may have made a trip into "Free America" and gotten to handle one.
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Has anyone handled both? How does the grip on the M&P compare to the LC9? I have only been able to get my hands on the LC9, and it was a bit thin for my liking. Hoping someone has had the chance to handle both, and can shed some light on this for me.
I have handled both in the LGS, shot neither. But I do own the LCP380, and I consider it very similar to the LC9, just a smaller version. For me, the grip and overall feel of the Shield is much better, and plan on picking one up later this year for my wife. As stated before, they are anticipated to be in your local CA gun shops later this year.

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The M&P Shield is already on the CA. Approved list. Here is the actual entry as it reads:
"M&P9 Shield (Blk) SKU 187021 / Stainless Steel; Polymer"
It was added 7/2/2012. Only trouble is finding one.
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How did it get added to the list? Don't the new guns need a loaded chamber indicator and a magazine disconnect?
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How did it get added to the list? Don't the new guns need a loaded chamber indicator and a magazine disconnect?
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...1_757781_image

Bottom of the page. It has a ugly *** LCI and magazine disconnect.
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Yeah nvm. I just checks... I hate this state. Maybe we can SSE the actual shield. I personally feel that LCIs make guns less reliable. California neutered guns don't seem reliable to me because they were not designed to be and work that way from the ground up.
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A few guys have already SSE'd the shield and it also seems like some (at least one guy) were lucky enough to DROS a regular non-CA version (good for him). I also believe there have been a couple guys on here that have also found CA versions in very short supply. My search continues...
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M&P Shield is not available in CA yet. Heard first batch coming in Oct.
Really? Then I wonder what it was that I DROS'd on 7/28/12??? Could it be the gun in the pic below???



Yep, that'd be my hand holding what appears to be a Shield...



I handled an LC9 once, didn't like it, especially how the bottom rear of slide had sharp edges that if you had a high grip, would seem to dig into the web of your hand.

I vote Shield, it's comfortable and shoots like a dream!

O/P, if you want to shoot my Shield, lemme know and we can arrange a meet up!

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Really? Then I wonder what it was I bought about a month ago???



Yep, that'd be my hand holding what appears to be a Shield...



I handled an LC9 once, didn't like it, especially how the bottom rear of slide had sharp edges that if you had a high grip, would seem to dig into the web of your hand.

I vote Shield, it's comfortable and shoots like a dream!

What he said ^^^...

I picked mine up last week. After handling both, the Shield wins this one hands down. It's not really even fair to compare them.
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Old 09-02-2012, 4:49 PM
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I'm really enjoy my Shield (9mm). I don't have anything negative to say about it. Probably the best CCW gun I've purchased. S&W did a great job on this.

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Thanks you, those are the response I was hoping to hear, but it brings up yet another question did you special order and SSE them or did you find them somewhere? Been to a handful of stores and no one seemed to have any info, or at least useful info. I still may have to talk my wife into a Reno day trip see if I can check one out though.
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Old 09-02-2012, 5:15 PM
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I was lucky enough to walk into Canyon Sports in Martinez and they had one on the shelf. Give them a call 925-229-4867.
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dang it!! I just picked up a buckmark yesterday... I guess I'll have to wait 30 days before I start a shield dros. I didnt realize they were already reaching dealers in CA.
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Skosh did they do an SSE for the one you bought?
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How much is the shield Msrp?
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How much is the shield Msrp?
I don't know but Turners has them on pre-order for $399. Thet say they will have them in October.
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Old 09-02-2012, 5:59 PM
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Good question OP. I was wondering the same thing myself but I can't get my hands on a M&P in San Diego to see how it feels and maybe try it out. Sucks lol
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Skosh did they do an SSE for the one you bought?
No SSE, Canyon Sports just happen to get one in...I paid "gasp" $550 OTD, but it was worth it!
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Just about anything is better than a LC9. Terrible feel and even worse trigger.

The Shield looks like a nice piece for a reasonable price; possibly even a "can't lose" purchase.
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No SSE, Canyon Sports just happen to get one in...I paid "gasp" $550 OTD, but it was worth it!
Well it wasn't on the list at the time you bought it and it wasn't the version that's on the list now... they technically broke the law but I know gun stores that sell guns off list. It's really impossible to enforce. You got lucky though, they might not do that forever.
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Well it wasn't on the list at the time you bought it and it wasn't the version that's on the list now... they technically broke the law but I know gun stores that sell guns off list. It's really impossible to enforce. You got lucky though, they might not do that forever.
No..It made the list on 7/12/12...I bought on 7/28/12.
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Well it wasn't on the list at the time you bought it and it wasn't the version that's on the list now... they technically broke the law but I know gun stores that sell guns off list. It's really impossible to enforce. You got lucky though, they might not do that forever.
Mine wasn't SSE'd either. Just because the non-CA compliant model was sold in CA, without SSE, doesn't mean the transaction was illegal. There are plenty of people in CA that are exempt from the restrictions of the roster.

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Just to clear any confusion...My Shield was not SSE'd, was bought after it made the CA Roster and I am not a LEO.

Only thing that my shop could be considered guilty of is selling my Shield to me for $30 over MSRP, which happens to alot of items when they first hit the streets in low numbers and high demand.
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Just to clear any confusion...My Shield was not SSE'd, was bought after it made the CA Roster and I am not a LEO.

Only thing that my shop could be considered guilty of is selling my Shield to me for $30 over MSRP, which happens to alot of items when they first hit the streets in low numbers and high demand.
The model you bought was not the CA approved version. The CA approved version has the pop up loaded chamber indicator.
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The model you bought was not the CA approved version. The CA approved version has the pop up loaded chamber indicator.
According to the S&W website, no it's not, but none of my other counterparts that have their Shields have the "rooster comb" either. Who's fault is that?

Look, according to your screenname, your a security guard or rent a cop as I call them...are you going to try and bust us for having as you call it, non compliant Shields? What Safeway do you patrol so that I can avoid that store all together....

Can't you just be happy for the rest of us that got one? No, you have to keep pushing and pushing. Give it a rest man and get the *&^@ off my back about whether or not my Shield is fricken legal or not...OK!!!

I bought it fair and square...do I have to show you my reciept???
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Just to clear any confusion...My Shield was not SSE'd, was bought after it made the CA Roster and I am not a LEO.

Only thing that my shop could be considered guilty of is selling my Shield to me for $30 over MSRP, which happens to alot of items when they first hit the streets in low numbers and high demand.
I hate to break to you, but he's right. I would never have busted your chops about it, nor would I have even asked how you got it, but again he's right. The roster approved model has that gnarly LCI & mag disconnect, the model you have does not. The CA version hasn't even been released yet.
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According to the S&W website, no it's not, but none of my other counterparts that have their Shields have the "rooster comb" either. Who's fault is that?

Look, according to your screenname, your a security guard or rent a cop as I call them...are you going to try and bust us for having as you call it, non compliant Shields? What Safeway do you patrol so that I can avoid that store all together....

Can't you just be happy for the rest of us that got one? No, you have to keep pushing and pushing. Give it a rest man and get the *&^@ off my back about whether or not my Shield is fricken legal or not...OK!!!

I bought it fair and square...do I have to show you my reciept???
To the contrary I'm actually happy for you. I've had a dealer sell a non-roster gun as well. I'm trying to let you know that you were lucky because the version you go is the non-neutered version that is not on the list. The CA DOJ lists this as the approved shield on their site

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This is the model on the S&W site that matches that.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

Notice the loaded chamber indicator. I don't know why you're getting mad at me. I'm letting you know that you're lucky and I congratulate you. And I don't work as private security or at safeway, it's just a name lol.
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I hate to break to you, but he's right. I would never have busted your chops about it, nor would I have even asked how you got it, but again he's right. The roster approved model has that gnarly LCI & mag disconnect, the model you have does not. The CA version hasn't even been released yet.
You're right brother and I apologize to my fellow forum members and especially to SafewaySecurity for my rant.
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The Shield is better than a Ruger?!!? Where's exelscior!?
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According to the S&W website, no it's not, but none of my other counterparts that have their Shields have the "rooster comb" either. Who's fault is that?

Look, according to your screenname, your a security guard or rent a cop as I call them...are you going to try and bust us for having as you call it, non compliant Shields? What Safeway do you patrol so that I can avoid that store all together....

Can't you just be happy for the rest of us that got one? No, you have to keep pushing and pushing. Give it a rest man and get the *&^@ off my back about whether or not my Shield is fricken legal or not...OK!!!

I bought it fair and square...do I have to show you my reciept???
you call this a rant? it is downright impolite and abusive all because you were ignorant of the list.
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If you want a bit bigger without a huge cost, go with the Kahr CW9. Its bigger in the grip, 7+1, DAO with a trigger you have to get used to. I LOVE my Kahr and am extremely accurate with it at 35' or so which is what I bought it for, and there are a lot of accessories for it. Anyway, its one you may want to look into.





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You're right brother and I apologize to my fellow forum members and especially to SafewaySecurity for my rant.
Nice of you to apologize. safewaysecurity was just pointing out his observation...nothing more...nothing less.
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that loaded indicator is lame, but at least the CA version doesnt have a 10 plus # trigger pull like MA. has.
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that loaded indicator is lame, but at least the CA version doesnt have a 10 plus # trigger pull like MA. has.
Yeah, I saw that. How crazy is that?? 10lb trigger pull needed on all new handguns.. imagine if some innocent bystander was shot when you used your gun in self-defense, I feel like the victim would be on solid ground to sue the state for requiring gun companies to equip their guns with ridiculous and unsafe trigger pulls that would result in poorly aimed shots. I think this was partially one of the reasons why so many innocents were shot by police in that NYC shooting a few days ago, I heard the NYPD requires somehting like a 9.5lb trigger pull on their glocks.
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