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Old 11-13-2009, 8:23 PM
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So if a person had mag locked AR and a 870 aow could you mount the 870 to your AR like this picture, or would it become a SBS because there is a defecto stock attached?

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Old 11-13-2009, 8:35 PM
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that is unfortunately the current thought of the NFA crowd. There are a couple letters into Tech Branch trying to get a ruling stating that an AOW mounted to a separate firearm doesn't become a SBR/SBS, but I haven't heard the status of those letters.
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I don't see the issue. That shotgun is attached to a stock and the OAL is WAY over 26". I guess the shotgun has less than an 18" barrel though...
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:06 PM
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yup, if the AOW is attached to a shoulder-stocked firearm, the feeling is that the AOw "inherits" the "designed to be fired from the shoulder" capabiltiy of the host gun. Now, you have a item that fits the definition of an SBS, not an AOW.
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i'm guessing because the shotgun isn't permanently attached, no dice. if it comes off it doesn't meet the length requirements. pretty sweet though!
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that looks like part of the remmie 870 MCS (modular combat shotgun) system...

stock and barrels are easily swappable...
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What if that 870 was intsalled an a Registered AW??

Would the shotgun just be considered a feature maybe??

(Shot in the dark I know)
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THIS is what I need for a home defense gun. Except mine will have a chain saw attached to the shotgun. And I'll cover the chain saw blade with AIDS!

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What if that 870 was intsalled an a Registered AW??

Would the shotgun just be considered a feature maybe??

(Shot in the dark I know)
the status of the host gun being a RAW or not really doesn't matter. The problem is with the stock of the rifle possibly "converting" the AOW into an unregistered SBS.
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So if a person had mag locked AR and a 870 aow could you mount the 870 to your AR like this picture, or would it become a SBS because there is a defecto stock attached?


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that would make good sig line material...
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So what if the shotgun was a sbs?
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So what if the shotgun was a sbs?
If the shotgun was SBS, then there is no issue with the rifle's shoulder stock since an SBS can have a shoulder stock.

One option may be to mount an AOW "shottie" under an AR-pistol. No shoulder stock to turn the AOW into an SBS
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