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Old 06-14-2009, 9:42 AM
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When a background investigator "runs" a person in the system, what sort of things come up? I ask this because a friend of mine who is a Dept. of Veterans Affairs Sgt., said that they run what is called a "criminal history check". He told me that every police contact I have ever had in my entire life will show up in that check. Is that true? Is that why when filling out the background packet they ask for ALL police contacts? If they don't show ALL contacts, then what does it show and how far back does it go?

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Old 06-14-2009, 10:09 AM
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When a background investigator "runs" a person in the system, what sort of things come up? I ask this because a friend of mine who is a Dept. of Veterans Affairs Sgt., said that they run what is called a "criminal history check". He told me that every police contact I have ever had in my entire life will show up in that check. Is that true? Is that why when filling out the background packet they ask for ALL police contacts? If they don't show ALL contacts, then what does it show and how far back does it go?

Thanks in advance for any responses.
Normally a state check is thru DOJ. It will show arrests and convictions. A fed check is thru NCIC. It will show arrests and convictions from most states, and any military arrests and convictions.
A local check (city police/county sheriff) will be run in places that you have lived. These may show all contacts (times you've reported crimes, times people reported you, field interviews, etc.).
Unless a contact is very serious, it's not a problem. Nobody will care if your neighbor reported you for your dog barking at 2 in the morning. If you had loud parties every weekend that the police had to break up, or constant disturbances in the neighborhood, that may be a problem. That will come out when they interview your neighbors.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:20 AM
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Thanks 5shot!

That clears things up quite a bit. I appreciate the help.

It sounds like I should have no problems at all ( accept for those wild parties) lol.
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Be as complete and honest as you possibly can. If there was anything you ever did which was questionable include it on your background form. The worst thing you can do is be dishonest or "less than truth full".
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Old 06-14-2009, 8:03 PM
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To the OP: Just remember.... A word that is spelled correctly but incorrectly used can, and will, change the meaning of what you wrote. Spell checkers won't find those errors. A grammar checker might find those errors. A knowledgeable person looking for those errors, will.

Some words can sound the same to the ear, but can have very different meanings. Be aware of that when you're writing things that matter.

As to the rest of it, I would imagine that CLETS/NCIC checks arrest and conviction records. Checking local records would probably find all contacts you've had with Law Enforcement where someone kept a record of that contact.

Do not lie. Do not try to deceive. Eventually, you'll get caught...
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:11 PM
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What kinds of questions are asked for the background/polygraph? Not trying to "beat it", just curious- wouldn't know how to beat a polygraph anyways.
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Have you ever had sex with an animal?

I giggled at that one and started laughing when they were recording my answers, I was sure I was going to fail (didn't though)
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Have you ever had sex with an animal?

I giggled at that one and started laughing when they were recording my answers, I was sure I was going to fail (didn't though)
That question was common in the '70s
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From my experience, people worry too damned much about the background portion.

As long as you fill out your background packet neatly, thoroughly, and turn everything in on time...you'll be fine...

Unless of course you have sex with animals. And all your friends know about it. And your mom knows. And your ex-girlfriend knows. And your neighbor knows.

In which case your pretty much screwed.
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:55 AM
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Have you ever had sex with an animal?

I giggled at that one and started laughing when they were recording my answers, I was sure I was going to fail (didn't though)

In later years they added a follow up question:

"If so, what was your favorite animal?"


IMHO, they should have also asked, "Was the animal of the same sex as you?" but this is the west coast so I don't think it would fly.

I used to work backgrounds. My recommendation is to photocopy all of your papers so that you are always consistent. Reread your "Personal History Statement" several times. If after you've submitted it and during a reread the light bulb over your head goes off and you notice a discrepancy, tell your BI right away.

Many agencies will give you a copy of the polygraph questions ahead of time, and the polygrapher will pick and choose questions from that list. In my jurisdication, it was mainly stuff about financial responsibilities, drugs, crimes committed but never acted upon by LE, general moral turpitude and ulterior motives for entering LE.

Remember, a mistake you made in the past can be explained and often excused. Lying or hiding something is usually not tolerated and even if the original problem is excusable (non-disqualifying) the cover up will sink you.

Best of luck in your endeavors!

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In later years they added a follow up question:

"If so, what was your favorite animal?"
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In later years they added a follow up question:

"If so, what was your favorite animal?"
So they didn't bother to find out if the animal gave consent?

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...crimes committed but never acted upon by LE...
I assume you mean crimes reported to/investigated by police but didn't lead to charges being pressed?

What types of crimes would not have been acted on?
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