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Old 04-10-2016, 2:35 PM
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Just ordered the esee 5. Can I leave that in my car? Center console or glove box?

If not, can I put my smaller kershaw folding knives in a car? Just for emergency / survival situations. (Cut a seat belt, break glass, self defense, etc.)

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Default Considered a concealed weapon.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=202457

If it is a fixed blade it would be considered a concealed weapon and that's not legal in CA.
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God this state is looney toons. So if I buy this

from Bed Bath & Beyond for a freakin wedding gift, throw it in my truck and drive home I committed a felony. I have an ESEE 5 in my BOB, guess I gotta put it on display in my vehicle so a dindu can break the window, steal it and commit a misdemeanor. How can there be any respect for the law left when the laws are so GD dumb!

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I'm sure you can just not a fixed blade.
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http://www.amazon.com/Kershaw-Cryo-Knife/dp/B00P6M1WPE


so this is legal to leave in the car? many thanks. just need any knife really
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I think you can still leave a baseball bat or similar size of PVC pipe in the trunk. But these days I could be wrong.
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so this is legal to leave in the car? many thanks. just need any knife really


Yes, and that's a nice knife, I have one.
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Why not on your hip? That's where a knife should be. As long as you aren't IWB and covered up you are always ready to whittle.
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If it is a fixed blade it would be considered a concealed weapon and that's not legal in CA.
Mostly not. CA itself does not care about 'in your car' - it's 'on your person, or in a bag you carry' that is an issue, related to concealed 'dirk or dagger' - which generally is a fixed-blade.

See your local laws - locals can be different from state.
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I usually carry a folder or Skeletool on my person, but have a fixed blade in the trunk in my GHB. It's funny because I have a CCW, which allows me to carry a loaded firearm, but I can't carry a fixed bladed knife everywhere. I believe you might be able to carry a fixed blade exposed, but it can't be concealed. I'd look it up because I don't like carrying a 4-7" blade on my hip around, unless I'm hiking or backpacking. Bladeforums is a good place to find knife laws in the different states and even around the world.
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... and the Knife Laws sticky in this forum covers California, as much as can be done reasonably. CA law permits local jurisdictions to make up their own misdemeanors; there's hundreds of those locals.
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You mean people don't have a knife (or 2) in their cars? Huh, who knew.
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such a dumb law, i personally never carried a knife around, because i always lose them. but these laws make you want to stay away from them too, i mean it bad enough trying to keep up with gun laws haha
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I have a have a few fixed blades in my truck in my tool kit and ghb I think I have a machete under the compartment under the back seat under locked in car seats. I used to know the knife laws but I'm a bit out of the loop lately. I also carry 3 folders on me they are a buck 110 hunter a victrorinox camo forester wavy edge and a Leatherman wing man.

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Mostly not. CA itself does not care about 'in your car' - it's 'on your person, or in a bag you carry' that is an issue, related to concealed 'dirk or dagger' - which generally is a fixed-blade.

See your local laws - locals can be different from state.
I swear i read an article here from a court case that specifically says in a bag is not concealed. I know its CA, but common sense would say you have to carry it that way to transport it on foot.
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Did a quick search and my google-fu didn't suck today. Here is an article on the court ruling. I know there was a CG page on it but i couldn't find it.

http://blog.sfgate.com/crime/2013/04...ck-court-says/

Dang im on a roll today. Here is the CG page.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=748240
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Pellecer (http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20...0v.%20PELLECER) has been called into question by Wade in 2015 (http://www.leagle.com/decision/In%20...LE%20v.%20WADE)
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Defendant Steven Wade was held to answer on a charge of carrying a loaded firearm on his person (Pen. Code, § 25850, subd. (a)).1 Preliminary hearing testimony established that defendant was wearing a backpack containing a loaded revolver while being pursued by a police officer. The trial court granted defendant's section 995 motion to dismiss, finding that defendant did not carry the firearm on his person under the reasoning in People v. Pellecer (2013) 215 Cal.App.4th 508 [155 Cal.Rptr.3d 477] (Pellecer), which held that a knife contained in a backpack is not carried "`on the person.'" (Id. at p. 513.)

(1) On appeal by the People, we reverse. A defendant wearing a backpack containing a firearm carries the firearm on his or her person. We decline to apply the reasoning in Pellecer, supra, 215 Cal.App.4th 508, to possession of a firearm concealed in a backpack in light of the historical interpretation of "carries a loaded firearm on the person" (§ 25850, subd. (a)) in California, which is in accord with decisions from other jurisdictions considering language similar to section 25850, subdivision (a).
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so this is legal to leave in the car? many thanks. just need any knife really
Big 5 has that knife on ad this week for $24.
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You mean people don't have a knife (or 2) in their cars? Huh, who knew.
I have a folding knife (or 2) in my car. I also have a folding knife (or 2) on my person which I EDC.

I really don't understand why anyone would not carry a knife when & where it is legal.

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so this is legal to leave in the car? many thanks. just need any knife really
Look for new Kershaw Launch 4 it's an Automatic that comes in at just under 4" so it's Cali legal.
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God this state is looney toons. So if I buy this

from Bed Bath & Beyond for a freakin wedding gift, throw it in my truck and drive home I committed a felony. I have an ESEE 5 in my BOB, guess I gotta put it on display in my vehicle so a dindu can break the window, steal it and commit a misdemeanor. How can there be any respect for the law left when the laws are so GD dumb!
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God this state is looney toons. So if I buy this

from Bed Bath & Beyond for a freakin wedding gift, throw it in my truck and drive home I committed a felony. I have an ESEE 5 in my BOB, guess I gotta put it on display in my vehicle so a dindu can break the window, steal it and commit a misdemeanor. How can there be any respect for the law left when the laws are so GD dumb!
Please read the Knife Laws sticky; there's this 'social engineering' idea there ...

And the point of this thread is knives in cars - and so far as CA is concerned, there are no issues. You do NOT need to 'carry the esee exposed' instead of '(concealed) in your BOB' in your car.
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Guys, we used to get jacked for a baseball bat.
Just be sure to keep your glove and ball in the trunk with your bat.
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I swear i read an article here from a court case that specifically says in a bag is not concealed. I know its CA, but common sense would say you have to carry it that way to transport it on foot.
Agree, this is my recollection as well. Bag on person may end up having the DA charge you even though it has been shown to be ok.
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Just ordered the esee 5. Can I leave that in my car? Center console or glove box?

If not, can I put my smaller kershaw folding knives in a car? Just for emergency / survival situations. (Cut a seat belt, break glass, self defense, etc.)

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Can you post a link to the item? or a description & Picture.....

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So, I'm confused!

Is carrying the machete in a locked compartment under the seat legal or illegal?
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Just carry a cooked steak with you in your car along with your knife. Your lawyer will thank you later.


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Guys, we used to get jacked for a baseball bat.
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I'm a designated hitter. I don't need a glove.
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So, I'm confused!

Is carrying the machete in a locked compartment under the seat legal or illegal?
For CA law, legal.

Check your local laws to see any differences.
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I keep a fixed blade Case Hunting knife in my truck lock box and a small fixed blade Case folder in the center console of my truck. The fixed blade is under lock and key. I have a Swiss Army knife in my work bag and carry my Kershaw Emerson CQC7k or SOG Twitch on my person on a daily basis.

When I fish up at the cabin, I open carry my new Randall...as a matter of fact, when I am up there, I am always carrying it.
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I keep one of these in my kitchen and one in my truck: http://amzn.com/B001EDL1L4

If you can't tell from the picture it's pretty massive once you pull the blade out. You're on your own figuring out when to pull it out and how to use it; I'd look up those laws too.
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It comes down to intent. If a cop asks why you have it and you answer "self defense" you screwed yourself. Say it's for opening boxes and magically it goes from weapon to a tool.
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I've always kept a knife on the 4x4 shifter or in the center console. I've been pulled over a few times, and if the cop asked if I had any weapons I told them about it and the edc folder in my pocket. Only once did a cop ask to see the truck knife, and that was just to check for single edge. He advised me to grind the top edge off my Kershaw Amphipian, and sent me on my merry way. I now have a Fallkniven S1 so no edge issues.
I also keep a solid aluminum door push bar in my camper shell for special "door repair' circumstances. Never know when you need to go fix some blown out storefront door glass....
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Why? Exposed knives are generally legal.

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Only once did a cop ask to see the truck knife, and that was just to check for single edge. He advised me to grind the top edge off my Kershaw Amphipian, and sent me on my merry way.
Since 'double-edged' is not illegal, I wonder at the officer's training.
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Why? Exposed knives are generally legal.
Exactly my point - Just keep it in plain sight vs interpretations of concealment.
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Exactly my point - Just keep it in plain sight vs interpretations of concealment.
Oops. Crossed myself up.

Concealed fixed-blade knives, not on your person, are generally legal.
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Look up trucker's friend tool.
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Always good to have a tire thumper too. You don't want to be runnin around with low tire pressure and increasing your carbon footprint.

IANAL but probably worse than having 30 mag clip shoulder thing in Calistovakia.

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