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Old 08-07-2020, 5:15 PM
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IIRC, a poster in the CGN thread discussing the CSA audit of Sacto, LA and SD said that while the CSA itself doesn't have any enforcement "teeth", the legislative body/cmte that ordered the audit does and can order a sheriff to appear before them to testify why he isn't obeying state law (where the CSA found violations) and punish him (removal from office?) if it gets to that.

I know nothing about them.
Sadly, I believe you to be mistaken. The only entity that can "remove" an elected sheriff. Is the elected governor.
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Old 08-07-2020, 5:18 PM
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If they plan to defund my local police department, and it's on the list of cities in agreement to issue CCW's through the LA county sheriff's dept, is it worth applying?
Well, that depends upon your Good Cause (GC) and how much you want a CCW.

An aside: welcome newbie!

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Read post #31 by yours truly at: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1482924 Follow the instructions. Start from the bottom and see how far you have to go up before matching your GC with one listed. That will tell you what "color" your GC is. Those colors are shown in the CA CCW GC map you've probably seen on CGN. (If no where else, then in post #3 at the link above.) (BTW that map is out-of-date. A new one is supposed to be posted anytime now, showing Napa Light Green, Alameda Yellow and LA Light Red.)

If your GC color is Dark Red or Light Red, I feel you've got a solid chance with LASD now. You probably have a decent chance if your GC is Yellow. But that's all going on the assumption what AV says is true. We won't really know until people apply and get approved or denied. But many people won't apply unless they know for sure they'll get approved.... Thus we are trapped in the infamous "chicken and egg" problem. But it costs only $10 to apply and get a GC decision, so go for it if can meet those GC color standards. (No, a GC denial will NOT hurt your future applications.) Heck, if I lived in LA Co I'd try right now and I only have a Light Green GC....

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Old 08-07-2020, 5:24 PM
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Sadly, I believe you to be mistaken. The only entity that can "remove" an elected sheriff. Is the elected governor.
I don't know. That's why I put it a parenthetical with a question mark.

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IIRC, a poster in the CGN thread discussing the CSA audit of Sacto, LA and SD said that while the CSA itself doesn't have any enforcement "teeth", the legislative body/cmte that ordered the audit does and can order a sheriff to appear before them to testify why he isn't obeying state law (where the CSA found violations) and punish him (removal from office?) if it gets to that.
But we all (who were on CGN back then), saw how Solano Co SO went from what, Dark Red (?), to Light Green after just a county civil grand jury investigation found they weren't following their own CCW policies. I can't imagine how motivating having the CSA breathing down your neck would be.

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Old 08-08-2020, 6:10 PM
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Alright so I know of a couple people who have received CCW permits that I have a mutual friend with but I have not been able to contact them. My question is to anyone who has gone through the process recently, how long after they cash your check did you get the phone call?

Also can you please elaborate as to what questions they asked you over the phone and also in person? I'm sure I'm speaking for everybody as everyone would like more information as to what the whole thing entails since this is new for many people.
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Old 08-08-2020, 8:11 PM
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Alright so I know of a couple people who have received CCW permits that I have a mutual friend with but I have not been able to contact them.


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My question is to anyone who has gone through the process recently, how long after they cash your check did you get the phone call?

Also can you please elaborate as to what questions they asked you over the phone and also in person? I'm sure I'm speaking for everybody as everyone would like more information as to what the whole thing entails since this is new for many people.
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Old 08-12-2020, 8:22 AM
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Well I'll be mailing my application today. I'll let you all know what happens.

Thank you Paladin for your feedback on my good cause.
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Old 08-12-2020, 9:40 AM
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as of to day I had my phone interview with the LASD and will have my face to face interview in a few weeks
Almost 5 weeks down!

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Well I'll be mailing my application today. I'll let you all know what happens.

Thank you Paladin for your feedback on my good cause.


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Old 08-12-2020, 11:20 AM
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Well I'll be mailing my application today. I'll let you all know what happens.

Thank you Paladin for your feedback on my good cause.
Wooohooo! Good luck, looking forward to hearing about the process/outcome. I’m still just trying to figure out what to report when it comes to traffic violations in the past five years, then I’ll be in the same boat.
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Old 08-12-2020, 12:39 PM
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Wooohooo! Good luck, looking forward to hearing about the process/outcome. Im still just trying to figure out what to report when it comes to traffic violations in the past five years, then Ill be in the same boat.
Thanks, once I hear something I'll report back. Luckily I haven't had a ticket since about 2000.
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No new update for me. The deputy said they would call me to set up an appointment for an interview, but that was 3 weeks ago. Im not too worried...Im sure theyre getting quite busy right now.
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No new update for me. The deputy said they would call me to set up an appointment for an interview, but that was 3 weeks ago. Im not too worried...Im sure theyre getting quite busy right now.
How long after you submitted the application did they call you?

How long after they cashed your check did they call you?
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I guess I had better apply to my local PD now. I will almost definitely be denied, then can apply to LASD for a CCW.

Is there any way to look up how many CCWs a city (in LA County) police department has issued in the last 5-10 years?
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How long after you submitted the application did they call you?

How long after they cashed your check did they call you?
Around 4 weeks.
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Old 08-12-2020, 11:32 PM
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Around 4 weeks.
Thanks. They cashed my check, so I'm waiting to see what happens. Its been about 2-3 weeks since it has been cashed.
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Old 08-13-2020, 9:40 AM
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Is there any way to look up how many CCWs a city (in LA County) police department has issued in the last 5-10 years?
You can use a Public Records Act (PRA) request for a copy of any stats they make re. CCWs. Note you cannot ask them to do something new for you, some stat that they don't create for their own use. Also, there's a fee and charge per page of whatever you request.

Look here:
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Old 08-13-2020, 10:13 AM
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A CGNer PMed me to share this with everyone else.

It took them just over a month from submission to phone call to schedule interview.

The caller seemed to focus on whether the registered handgun to be carried is truly concealable.

MY TAKE:

I think, like many of us, this CGNer never thought they'd have a chance for a CA CCW and planned on getting a smaller, more concealable handgun if things changed. They weren't expecting a CV19 panic causing gun shortages, followed by a BLM riots/looting causing an even greater gun buying panic right before applying. I suggested sorting out concealed carry belt/holster rig now for current handgun at home -- standing before a mirror, sitting down/standing up from a chair, drawing while seated, walking, jogging, sprinting (such as you can inside your home or outside w/a Ring's BlueGun simulator), etc. Lesson: if you plan on applying now, try to get the handgun (and carry rig) you want to carry now.

https://www.blueguns.com/

Also, it is best to find out the type of ammo your IA carries for your caliber and use that. It heads off another issue with your IA and/or during a trial/lawsuit after a shooting.

Since this is a time of guns & ammo shortages, best to start this process (and make sure your gun is registered), now rather than later.

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Old 08-13-2020, 12:45 PM
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A CGNer PMed me to share this with everyone else.

It took them just over a month from submission to phone call to schedule interview.

The caller seemed to focus on whether the registered handgun to be carried is truly concealable.

MY TAKE:

I think, like many of us, this CGNer never thought they'd have a chance for a CA CCW and planned on getting a smaller, more concealable handgun if things changed. They weren't expecting a CV19 panic causing gun shortages, followed by a BLM riots/looting causing an even greater gun buying panic right before applying. I suggested sorting out concealed carry belt/holster rig now for current handgun at home -- standing before a mirror, sitting down/standing up from a chair, drawing while seated, walking, jogging, sprinting (such as you can inside your home or outside w/a Ring's BlueGun simulator), etc. Lesson: if you plan on applying now, try to get the handgun (and carry rig) you want to carry now.

https://www.blueguns.com/

Also, it is best to find out the type of ammo your IA carries for your caliber and use that. It heads off another issue with your IA and/or during a trial/lawsuit after a shooting.

Since this is a time of guns & ammo shortages, best to start this process (and make sure your gun is registered), now rather than later.
Paladin,

Could you ask this person more details about the process including what the in-person interview was like and if they inspected the guns or not? Also, if he was approved and how long the permit is valid for? Even if this person doesn't reply on their own and use you as a proxy, we all really need more information from someone if they have gone through it. Thanks
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Old 08-13-2020, 12:50 PM
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Could you ask this person more details about the process including what the in-person interview was like and if they inspected the guns or not? Also, if he was approved and how long the permit is valid for? Even if this person doesn't reply on their own and use you as a proxy, we all really need more information from someone if they have gone through it. Thanks
They said they'd update me to update others as they continue to go through the process.
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Old 08-14-2020, 6:02 AM
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They said they'd update me to update others as they continue to go through the process.
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I had CCWs in Massachusetts and Virginia, and there was never any questioning regarding which handguns I was planning to carry. So then, if you get a CCW here, it's specific to a certain gun??
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I had CCWs in Massachusetts and Virginia, and there was never any questioning regarding which handguns I was planning to carry. So then, if you get a CCW here, it's specific to a certain gun??

Yes, basically, you qualify with the pistols/revolvers that you want to carry.
They are listed on your permit and you can only carry the ones that are on your permit.
Also, some IAs have limits on how many you can put on your permit. For example, San Diego Sheriff allows three previously. I heard they are allowing 5 recently.


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Old 08-14-2020, 9:18 PM
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Yes, basically, you qualify with the pistols/revolvers that you want to carry.
They are listed on your permit and you can only carry the ones that are on your permit.
Also, some IAs have limits on how many you can put on your permit. For example, San Diego Sheriff allows three previously. I heard they are allowing 5 recently.


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Old 08-15-2020, 3:16 PM
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My source wanted me to share this as well.

They live in unincorporated LA Co, so are applying only with LASD.

It was about a month from submitting app to check being cashed. It was about a week after that when they got a call from a number w/o any identifying info from the SO. So, once your check is cashed, do NOT screen calls, esp ones w/o any info -- it might be the SO's CCW person calling.

The person calling ID'ed themselves as a deputy.

The deputy briefly went over their GC statement w/them. (IMO, they've got Light Red GC.) They say the app has one part that says in red not to fill out, among other things, the GC part (section 6-7-8), but another part says to fill out, among other things, the GC. They skipped the former and filled out the latter (incl GC). Since the deputy discussed their GC, they think it was right to fill it out the way they did. (I hope that makes more sense if you're looking over the app while reading what I wrote.)

It's a separate call about a week later to set up the in person interview.

FWIW they've never met AV or the Undersheriff nor have donated to AV's campaign.

They provided other details, but I don't want to compromise their anonymity w/either CGNers, antis, or LASD. They can reveal more about themselves, if they wish after they've got card in hand, been denied and exhausted all appeals or won't appeal.

Oh, and they thanked me for doing this and suggested I put such an offer in my sig line so others who, like they, want to stay anonymous will have a channel to convey information and answer questions for CGNers.

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This was from yesterday's weekly live Q & A session. Fast forward to minute 19:35 where someone asked about CCW for law abiding citizens. He mentioned again that he is not going from Good Cause to Shall Issue, but he emphasized that he wants to make it achievable if you qualify.

https://www.facebook.com/LosAngelesC...2261605004600/

IF he keeps his words, I'm okay with Good Cause that's achievable. It's still leaps and bounds from No Issue at all. I have seen how Good Cause has significantly liberalized CCW in the neighboring Orange County in the last couple of years where I used to live.
I hope people in LA Co keep up with these online town halls to hear if AV says anymore about CCWs, esp GC. Make it productive: just play it loud in the background while you make dinner or do exercises/stretching and your brain will catch it if he mentions CCWs or concealed carry permits. I've got enough on my plate now, so I won't (plus I don't even live in LA Co.).

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Old 08-19-2020, 6:56 PM
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A Lot of talk today about CCW in his facebook live. No new info, but tons of people asking about it, and he acknowledged it a few times. Sounds like he understands the demand is there. Really anxious to see the end result.
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A Lot of talk today about CCW in his facebook live. No new info, but tons of people asking about it, and he acknowledged it a few times. Sounds like he understands the demand is there. Really anxious to see the end result.

Saw that too. Chat was full of questions. Hes not budging on shall issue obviously. And made a telling statement on too many guns on the street.
Most fail to realise that we would cherish this right and misuse it in order to keep and enjoy our 2A. Studies show a perceived or assume ms armed society is way less of a deterrent to criminals.

However no mention of what to do with criminal guns on the street. Id love to have 15 minutes with him off the record to see what he really thinks.

Applying this week with LAPD as that is the process. My GC is light to dark red so if and when they deny me he has stems the LASD is the appeals process.


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If a denial of GC doesn’t negatively affect future applications, I’m planning on moving to SBC next year, and it will only cost $10 I will apply and roll the dice with my light green GC.
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Old 08-24-2020, 8:03 PM
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I never thought I’d see the day but ... today I’m happy to announce the first CGNer to pass GC and interview with LASD!!!



(And that’s all I’ll say at this point.)

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I never thought Id see the day but ... today Im happy to announce the first CGNer to pass GC and interview with LASD!!!

(And thats all Ill say at this point.)

Wow ! Pity we in LA have to do LAPD first. Awesome news.


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I never thought Id see the day but ... today Im happy to announce the first CGNer to pass GC and interview with LASD!!!

(And thats all Ill say at this point.)

Awesome news. I will do it later. Right now Im prioritizing something else first.


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The caller seemed to focus on whether the registered handgun to be carried is truly concealable.
As I said earlier in this thread, at this point, they have almost complete discretion in what they do, so you want to look as reasonable as possible every step of the way. Someone else asked about "can I put my modified gun, which had the LCI removed" and I said no, don't do that.

My gut feeling on this is, go with a compact, unmodified, reasonable quality gun that's suitable for concealed carry. Something like a Glock 26 or the H&K P2000sk or a 2" 38 spl or similar: small, high quality, factory-condition guns designed for defense.

Don't put on stuff that can't be concealed, like a 629, and don't put on stuff that's weird, like a Ruger Mark 2, and don't put on something that a serious person wouldn't choose for carry, like an antique gun (anything made pre-2000) or one of those stupid NAA mini 22 short revolvers or your favorite AR15 pistol. Those will make the application look non-serious.

Certainly don't remove any safety feature. In fact don't make any mods to it at all beyond installing night sights if you want to. Remember, that extended ambi safety might not be compatible with your holster, which might result in a negligent discharge, and if you have a CCW that might get local press coverage which isn't good for anyone. So keep it in factory configuration.
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It’s not card in hand yet, but the interviewer forecast blue skies and smooth sailing.

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... smooth sailing

Can you be general and state his whereabouts. As hes going though LASD hes not in the city of LA, it may be one of the incorporated cities. Or over near angeles forest

Can be private if necessary. Im taking my application to the nearest LAPD station (about 35 mins from my house as were in the boonies).

Is that how we in the city of LA do it ? Or can we ? Would be nice to make a pleasant first connection.


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I'm assuming this is the same guy who Paladin said had a light red GC. Either way sounds amazing!
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Can you be general and state his whereabouts. As hes going though LASD hes not in the city of LA, it may be one of the incorporated cities. Or over near angeles forest

Can be private if necessary. Im taking my application to the nearest LAPD station (about 35 mins from my house as were in the boonies).

Is that how we in the city of LA do it ? Or can we ? Would be nice to make a pleasant first connection.
I can't even remotely imagine anywhere within the City of Los Angeles that you are 35 minutes away from the closest station.

I'm very curious where such a location exists.
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I can't even remotely imagine anywhere within the City of Los Angeles that you are 35 minutes away from the closest station.

I'm very curious where such a location exists.

It exists! . Im on the outskirts. Almost in the angeles national forest is the best I can say. Usually a 45 min resource time. And it closes at 11pm. If I speed over there its like 25 mins.


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I submitted a new application using essentially the same good cause that was accepted for every Sheriff prior to McDonnell and which was rejected by Villanueva after he was elected.

My check was cashed 8 days ago, I haven't received any phone calls.

I'm not interested in putting my good cause list out there or how to rank it as a color; I guess I would call it a list of multiple Yellow (maybe some light green)
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