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Old 04-06-2016, 7:57 PM
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Has anyone taken Greg Block's ccw renewal class? What is cost and how much ammo per gun is needed?
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Talked to him today.
72 rounds per gun.
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Talked to him today.
72 rounds per gun.
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72 rounds per gun is what OCSD requires. Most trainers are going to be around $100 for a renewal, give or take a few bucks.
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Mike has online training for renewals as well as initial OCSD CCW applications.
The 'info page' on OC online classroom:
http://www.safeinsight.net/california-ccw-courses.html

Price is $99 72 rounds qualifying for OCSD
Referral discount program offered.
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I took my renewal course at On Target in Laguna Niguel. I'm a member there. The classroom lecture and discussion were pretty much standard content. We ended up watching a 45 minute video on why you shouldn't speak to a police officer.

The video could have been way, way, way shorter. Fee was $120. David, the instructor is a nice guy with some good insight.

Would I do it again here? Maybe..... Here's why:

I came in to the Sunday afternoon class specifically because I simply do not have much free time. They advertised this is a 4-hour lecture/qualification course. I figured perfect, I could do this whole thing in one Sunday. The class started at 3pm. Range goes cold at 7pm.

Well, guess what. We didn't end the lecture until almost 7pm. So, I couldn't qualify the same day. I ended up coming back another day to shoot. Realistically, this is not the end of the world for me. But, if you are going to advertise something, make sure you have your time/scheduling right. Not the end of the world, and I'm still a member, and will continue to be a member of OT. Just a heads up to anyone that take it here, YMMV
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Took my renewal w/ Allsafe @ the F3 range in Stanton.

I had heard that he was a bit tighter in the shooting requirements - and you moved around to simulate cover positions.

Went smoothly - I liked the drills - much better (for me) than standing in one position for all the shots. I was not used to that and I brought three guns to qual on, and passed two, failed one.

He was nice enough to let me try again - and I passed this time around.

The older gentleman next to me I don't think passed a single gun. he was all over the place.
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Default FT3 one day CCW course

I'm posting a question for a friend of mine:
Has anyone taken the FT3 one day CCW course? The price is $125 plus range fees. Are the classes taught by TJ Johnston or Dave Anderson?
Please share your experience.

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Took my renewal w/ Allsafe @ the F3 range in Stanton.

I had heard that he was a bit tighter in the shooting requirements - and you moved around to simulate cover positions.

Went smoothly - I liked the drills - much better (for me) than standing in one position for all the shots. I was not used to that and I brought three guns to qual on, and passed two, failed one.

He was nice enough to let me try again - and I passed this time around.

The older gentleman next to me I don't think passed a single gun. he was all over the place.
Yeah, with TJ's class you get your CCW training and some decent drills that you'd pay extra for.
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Yeah, with TJ's class you get your CCW training and some decent drills that you'd pay extra for.
More 'drills' is in no way related to CCW training. Besides which, is also in no way adequate for comprehensive shooting skills training and practice as a CCW permit carrier.

It seems we are getting a few comments about CCW training that includes course material that is simply not relevant to CCW training. It's nice if there are some classes with some extra material being covered, but it's not part of the required process.
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More 'drills' is in no way related to CCW training. Besides which, is also in no way adequate for comprehensive shooting skills training and practice as a CCW permit carrier.



It seems we are getting a few comments about CCW training that includes course material that is simply not relevant to CCW training. It's nice if there are some classes with some extra material being covered, but it's not part of the required process.

Sure the drills have application to the CCW carrier. You shoot from cover, move and shoot, etc. How can that not be applicable or beneficial?

No one is saying that you don't have to continue to train or take classes, but his classes offer those things for the same price as other trainers who just have you punch holes in power. All trainers charge about the same, give or take a few bucks.

All trainers submit their syllabi to OCSD for approval. If the trainers happen to be providing more than the minimum required, that's fine with OCSD. Applicants can certainly be informed consumers and ask a trainer for the course syllabus ahead of time if they'd like.
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That's interesting. He teaches a rifle class so he knows what a bullet button is. Regardless, folks have been pleased with his CCW course and that's what this thread is about.

http://www.allsafedefense.com/course...g/urban-rifle/
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Smile CCW Classes at the Firing Line Indoor Range - HB

Firing line has classes every Sunday at 10:00 AM and they never cancel a class, even if only 1 person shows up. They will also work with those that want to do it during the week or Saturday. They also will do the requalification 7 days a week for the OC and LA CCW but for Ventura see Jim in the classroom. You can talk to Jim or Pete in the classroom and they will get you set up. Just show up no appointments are ever needed..
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Exclamation CCW permit and gun's on school grounds

626.9. (a) This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the
Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995.
(b) Any person who possesses a firearm in a place that the person
knows, or reasonably should know, is a school zone, as defined in
paragraph (1) of subdivision (e), unless it is with the written
permission of the school district superintendent, his or her
designee, or equivalent school authority, shall be punished as
specified in subdivision (f).
(c) Subdivision (b) does not apply to the possession of a firearm
under any of the following circumstances:
(1) Within a place of residence or place of business or on private
property, if the place of residence, place of business, or private
property is not part of the school grounds and the possession of the
firearm is otherwise lawful.
(2) When the firearm is an unloaded pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed on the person and is in a locked
container or within the locked trunk of a motor vehicle.
This section does not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful
transportation of any other firearm, other than a pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed on the person, in
accordance with state law.
(3) When the person possessing the firearm reasonably believes
that he or she is in grave danger because of circumstances forming
the basis of a current restraining order issued by a court against
another person or persons who has or have been found to pose a threat
to his or her life or safety. This subdivision may not apply when
the circumstances involve a mutual restraining order issued pursuant
to Division 10 (commencing with Section 6200) of the Family Code
absent a factual finding of a specific threat to the person's life or
safety. Upon a trial for violating subdivision (b), the trier of a
fact shall determine whether the defendant was acting out of a
reasonable belief that he or she was in grave danger.
(4) When the person is exempt from the prohibition against
carrying a concealed firearm pursuant to Section 25615, 25625, 25630,
or 25645.
(5) When the person holds a valid license to carry the firearm
pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 26150) of Division 5
of Title 4 of Part 6, who is carrying that firearm in an area that is
not in, or on the grounds of, a public or private school providing
instruction in kindergarten or grades 1 to 12, inclusive, but within
a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of the public or private
school.
(d) Except as provided in subdivision (b), it shall be unlawful
for any person, with reckless disregard for the safety of another, to
discharge, or attempt to discharge, a firearm in a school zone, as
defined in paragraph (1) of subdivision (e).
The prohibition contained in this subdivision does not apply to
the discharge of a firearm to the extent that the conditions of
paragraph (1) of subdivision (c) are satisfied.
(e) As used in this section, the following definitions shall
apply:
(1) "Concealed firearm" has the same meaning as that term is given
in Sections 25400 and 25610.
(2) "Firearm" has the same meaning as that term is given in
subdivisions (a) to (d), inclusive, of Section 16520.
(3) "Locked container" has the same meaning as that term is given
in Section 16850.
(4) "School zone" means an area in, or on the grounds of, a public
or private school providing instruction in kindergarten or grades 1
to 12, inclusive, or within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds
of the public or private school.
(f) (1) Any person who violates subdivision (b) by possessing a
firearm in, or on the grounds of, a public or private school
providing instruction in kindergarten or grades 1 to 12, inclusive,
shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of
Section 1170 for two, three, or five years.
(2) Any person who violates subdivision (b) by possessing a
firearm within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public
or private school providing instruction in kindergarten or grades 1
to 12, inclusive, shall be punished as follows:
(A) By imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170
for two, three, or five years, if any of the following circumstances
apply:
(i) If the person previously has been convicted of any felony, or
of any crime made punishable by any provision listed in Section
16580.
(ii) If the person is within a class of persons prohibited from
possessing or acquiring a firearm pursuant to Chapter 2 (commencing
with Section 29800) or Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 29900) of
Division 9 of Title 4 of Part 6 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103
of the Welfare and Institutions Code.
(iii) If the firearm is any pistol, revolver, or other firearm
capable of being concealed upon the person and the offense is
punished as a felony pursuant to Section 25400.
(B) By imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one year or
by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for two,
three, or five years, in all cases other than those specified in
subparagraph (A).
(3) Any person who violates subdivision (d) shall be punished by
imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 for three,
five, or seven years.
(g) (1) Every person convicted under this section for a
misdemeanor violation of subdivision (b) who has been convicted
previously of a misdemeanor offense enumerated in Section 23515 shall
be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for not less than three
months, or if probation is granted or if the execution or imposition
of sentence is suspended, it shall be a condition thereof that he or
she be imprisoned in a county jail for not less than three months.
(2) Every person convicted under this section of a felony
violation of subdivision (b) or (d) who has been convicted previously
of a misdemeanor offense enumerated in Section 23515, if probation
is granted or if the execution of sentence is suspended, it shall be
a condition thereof that he or she be imprisoned in a county jail for
not less than three months.
(3) Every person convicted under this section for a felony
violation of subdivision (b) or (d) who has been convicted previously
of any felony, or of any crime made punishable by any provision
listed in Section 16580, if probation is granted or if the execution
or imposition of sentence is suspended, it shall be a condition
thereof that he or she be imprisoned in a county jail for not less
than three months.
(4) The court shall apply the three-month minimum sentence
specified in this subdivision, except in unusual cases where the
interests of justice would best be served by granting probation or
suspending the execution or imposition of sentence without the
minimum imprisonment required in this subdivision or by granting
probation or suspending the execution or imposition of sentence with
conditions other than those set forth in this subdivision, in which
case the court shall specify on the record and shall enter on the
minutes the circumstances indicating that the interests of justice
would best be served by this disposition.
(h) Notwithstanding Section 25605, any person who brings or
possesses a loaded firearm upon the grounds of a campus of, or
buildings owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research,
or administration by, a public or private university or college, that
are contiguous or are clearly marked university property, unless it
is with the written permission of the university or college
president, his or her designee, or equivalent university or college
authority, shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision
(h) of Section 1170 for two, three, or four years. Notwithstanding
subdivision (k), a university or college shall post a prominent
notice at primary entrances on noncontiguous property stating that
firearms are prohibited on that property pursuant to this
subdivision.
(i) Notwithstanding Section 25605, any person who brings or
possesses a firearm upon the grounds of a campus of, or buildings
owned or operated for student housing, teaching, research, or
administration by, a public or private university or college, that
are contiguous or are clearly marked university property, unless it
is with the written permission of the university or college
president, his or her designee, or equivalent university or college
authority, shall be punished by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision
(h) of Section 1170 for one, two, or three years. Notwithstanding
subdivision (k), a university or college shall post a prominent
notice at primary entrances on noncontiguous property stating that
firearms are prohibited on that property pursuant to this
subdivision.
(j) For purposes of this section, a firearm shall be deemed to be
loaded when there is an unexpended cartridge or shell, consisting of
a case that holds a charge of powder and a bullet or shot, in, or
attached in any manner to, the firearm, including, but not limited
to, in the firing chamber, magazine, or clip thereof attached to the
firearm. A muzzle-loader firearm shall be deemed to be loaded when it
is capped or primed and has a powder charge and ball or shot in the
barrel or cylinder.
(k) This section does not require that notice be posted regarding
the proscribed conduct.
(l) This section does not apply to a duly appointed peace officer
as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of
Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or the
federal government who is carrying out official duties while in
California, any person summoned by any of these officers to assist in
making arrests or preserving the peace while he or she is actually
engaged in assisting the officer, a member of the military forces of
this state or of the United States who is engaged in the performance
of his or her duties, or an armored vehicle guard, engaged in the
performance of his or her duties, as defined in subdivision (d) of
Section 7582.1 of the Business and Professions Code.
(m) This section does not apply to a security guard authorized to
carry a loaded firearm pursuant to Article 4 (commencing with Section
26000) of Chapter 3 of Division 5 of Title 4 of Part 6.
(n) This section does not apply to an existing shooting range at a
public or private school or university or college campus.
(o) This section does not apply to an honorably retired peace
officer authorized to carry a concealed or loaded firearm pursuant to
any of the following:
(1) Article 2 (commencing with Section 25450) of Chapter 2 of
Division 5 of Title 4 of Part 6.
(2) Section 25650.
(3) Sections 25900 to 25910, inclusive.
(4) Section 26020.
(5) Paragraph (2) of subdivision (c) of Section 26300.
(p) This section does not apply to a peace officer appointed
pursuant to Section 830.6 who is authorized to carry a firearm by the
appointing agency.

The answer is still "NO, YOU MUST HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL ADMIN"
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Firing line has classes every Sunday at 10:00 AM and they never cancel a class, even if only 1 person shows up. They will also work with those that want to do it during the week or Saturday. They also will do the requalification 7 days a week for the OC and LA CCW but for Ventura see Jim in the classroom. You can talk to Jim or Pete in the classroom and they will get you set up. Just show up no appointments are ever needed..
And your name is Jim...are you the same Jim? (just curious, thanks for the info.)
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Took my renewal course as a semi-private with Ben Hansen this week, primarily based on this thread, couldn't be happier.

Very relaxed, learned a few new things, covered everything and then some, no BS. I highly recommend Ben, he is a great teacher.
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The answer is still "NO, YOU MUST HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE SCHOOL ADMIN"
Yeah, we've had about a dozen threads on this, Jim.

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I just finished a sunday morning renewal course at FAST OC with Mike Beard. There were only two students in the class in a casual atmosphere. We covered mostly a refresher of legal issues, situational awareness and Q&A. Then we headed over to Evans range and shot the 72 rnd 3-5-7 qualifier with each pistol. Cost was $90 for the class including all 3 pistols. I highly recommend it.
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Feel compelled to add a positive comment for Ben Hansen. Took the entire CCW class in one day. Yes, it was a long day...but Ben chopped it up into segments with some class time, some out door time, and range time at the end of the day. Also provided all with Blackhawk holster and practice pistol.
Ben has been great with follow up assistance as well. Assisted (for a fair price) with fingerprint cards for AZ CCW. Just qualified this weekend for pistol number 3 for only $20.00. I believe this is a very fair price.
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Is this the same Mike who shot himself? I'd be curious on tve gun he was using.

I think snagging a trigger is a very likely possibility eventually using a glock
The instructor, identified as Martin Murphy, 57
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Mike has online training for renewals as well as initial OCSD CCW applications.
The 'info page' on OC online classroom:
http://www.safeinsight.net/california-ccw-courses.html

Price is $99 72 rounds qualifying for OCSD
Referral discount program offered.
Is this the same Mike who shot himself? I'd be curious on tve gun he was using.

I think snagging a trigger is a very likely possibility eventually using a glock
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I think snagging a trigger is a very likely possibility eventually using a glock
No, Mike didn't shoot himself. Why would you say that?
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No, Martin was not an instructor, he just part take in the shoot for CCW live fire course. See link to the other thread, glock21sf explained what happened.

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Can someone recommend and give a link to a good CCW refresher instruction program in Orange County ? The training that you need to submit when you RENEW your CCW. Preferably someone who does it at FT3 Tactical or failing that, Evans.
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Can someone recommend and give a link to a good CCW refresher instruction program in Orange County ?

The training that you need to submit when you RENEW your CCW.

Preferably someone who does it at FT3 Tactical or failing that, Evans.
Try Greg Block.

http://www.firearmtraining.com/

He uses Evans...
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Can someone recommend and give a link to a good CCW refresher instruction program in Orange County ? The training that you need to submit when you RENEW your CCW. Preferably someone who does it at FT3 Tactical or failing that, Evans.
SafeInsight.net is always available online - range time where it's convenient.
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Any recommendations on where to qualify a handgun to be added on to CCW License?
Something cheap and quick.
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Something cheap and quick.
Call or email Mike at SafeInsight - he can setup a range time for you to get 'er done in your locale.
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Any recommendations on where to qualify a handgun to be added on to CCW License?
Something cheap and quick.
I did Artemis. At Prado. 72 rounds down-range and your GTG. $40 (incl range fee), which seems to be the net-net going rate. The thing I liked about it was its outdoors so you can run some defensive rounds through the one you're qual'ing (or others while your there, as well).

BTW: I had my new card from OCSD in 3 days after mailing in the paperwork
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Any recommendations on where to qualify a handgun to be added on to CCW License?


Something cheap and quick.
On Target Range Laguna Niguel does these for the price of Ammo and Targets...

http://ontargetrange.com/ontargetrange/

Just did it there with two guns recently.

Call ahead first.
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I did Artemis. At Prado. 72 rounds down-range and your GTG. $40, which seems to be the going rate. The thing I liked about it was its outdoors so you can run some defensive rounds through the one you're qual'ing (or others while your there, as well).



BTW: I had my new card from OCSD in 3 days after mailing in the paperwork


FTA only charges $25 and is outdoors as well.


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FTA only charges $25 and is outdoors as well.
Including target and range fee? If, so sweet deal!
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Including target and range fee? If, so sweet deal!


Yup! All in for $25


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Just finished qualifying 1 handgun. Total cost is $60.57.
$18 lane rental, $18 50rds 9mm x 2, $2.08 target, $4.49 tax

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On Target Range Laguna Niguel does these for the price of Ammo and Targets...

http://ontargetrange.com/ontargetrange/

Just did it there with two guns recently.

Call ahead first.
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Did my renewal with Mike at FAST OC. Compared to my last class where it was like 50 people packed into a small room at Evans this was a nice mellow class with just 5 or 6 people. After the class session we went over to Evans to shoot the quals. Mike was nice and sent over pics of your qualification targets a few days later. That was a nice unexpected touch.

The instruction was interesting (ppt, handouts, and live demonstrations) and the instructor has a good personality for teaching. I didn't exactly agree with everything he said but then again I had the same issue with the last four CCW classes I attended. It seems to be a common issue in the reviews of these courses.

Perhaps next time I will finally get to try TJ's class. That said, I am happy that the OC instructor list is so large now and there are plenty of choices.
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INSIDE FT3.COM RANGE, STANTON, CALIFORNIA
AllSafe Defense Systems
1026 N Tustin Street
Orange, CA 92867
714-744-4485
Instructor: TJ Johnston
www.allsafedefense.com

I requalified for my CCW with Allsafe (TJ) at FT3 Tactical in Stanton. No complaints at all. The requalification was very professionally handled, no-nonsense, and efficient. I do wish it had not been on a precious Friday night, grin.
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Mike has online training for renewals as well as initial OCSD CCW applications.
The 'info page' on OC online classroom:
http://www.safeinsight.net/california-ccw-courses.html

Price is $99 72 rounds qualifying for OCSD
Referral discount program offered.
Did Mike's pricing go up recently? His website currently shows $129 for OC training renewals, unless I'm misreading. The website is a little clunky, so that's definitely a possibility.
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Just finished my CCW training with Greg Block. Simple and effective. If you are new to firearms, I don't think I would advise it. But if you know what guns are and know how to shoot, it is a good class. Mostly focuses on the legal issues of carrying. I learned a lot.
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Just finished my CCW training with Greg Block.

Simple and effective.

If you are new to firearms, I don't think I would advise it.

But if you know what guns are and know how to shoot, it is a good class.

Mostly focuses on the legal issues of carrying.

I learned a lot.
I spoke with Greg again recently at the OC gun show about some renewal concerns.

As usual, he was blunt and funny.

For most of us with years of experience, he is a recommended compromise between an informative and yet time efficient class.

However, if you are a true beginner or you seek a run and gun experience, he may not be your guy...
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Just finished the initial CCW course with Trent at F.A.S.T. O.C. and I am more than impressed...

First, I chose this course because of some other comments on this thread. Glad I did.

Trent is an excellent instructor that keeps the class fun and interesting regardless of skill level. I had a fair amount of firearms experience from the military, but you can always learn more. Trent's experience level as well as teaching abilities are top notch. The shooting portion was more defensive scenario based than "stand and shoot the paper". Again focus points and stress levels are kept relative to the skill level of the shooter. A beginner will do just fine, and an advanced shooter will have a great time.

The training was very comprehensive as far as laws, scenario discussions, weapon and ammunition choices (had you not already made that decision), concealment clothing and holster choices...we were never rushed to get out of the classroom at the end of a day, no topic was only touched upon lightly.

Overall well worth the price paid. I shot a Glock 22, Sig P239, and S&W Shield. Qualified with all three.

As an aside about F.A.S.T. O.C. another instructor Lance is one of the RSOs at the Prado IDPA matches and runs the Handgun Challenges that are put on at FT3 and Evans. Nice guy and also well versed in this stuff. Worth speaking to if you are on the fence about training with these guys.
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Just completed a 1 day course at Hansen Firearm Training. Very long day, but worth it. If you're doing the multi state one, class starts at 0800, otherwise 0900 in Orange. Live fire is at Evans Range in Orange from 1800-2000.
I brought my lunch and dinner since time is crucial. About 40 minutes for lunch, I ate dinner at the classroom during break before going to Evans. No dinner break.
Lot of information. Being retired LEO and NRA RSO, I experienced the law portion before. But as always, you learn something new all the time. Ben is a good instructor with plenty of info. He also teaches other advance classes as well. The class was very small, 4 for the multi and then 3 for the OC CCW. Price was $160 and to me, worth it!
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