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View Poll Results: Which deer rifle caliber: 6.5CM, .308Win, or .270Win? | |||
6.5CM | 35 | 22.58% | |
.308 Win | 48 | 30.97% | |
.270 Win | 61 | 39.35% | |
Bacon is better than venison | 11 | 7.10% | |
Voters: 155. You may not vote on this poll |
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Which caliber for new deer rifle: 6.5CM, .308win or .270win?
I'm thinking about picking up a new hunting rifle in a caliber I dont already have. The choices are 6.5CM, .308win or .270win. I'm leaning towards .270win because I like how it shoots faster and flatter than a .30-06 or .308, it seems to be very easy to find, and the price is very reasonable.
I already have hunting guns in .30-06 and 7mm Rem mag but want to add something that has better ballistics than .30-06 and is easier and cheaper to find than 7mm. What are your thoughts?
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6.5CM and done.
-.308 is going to be so close to your 30-06 its not worth the cost of a new rifle. -.270 is also not that much better ballistically than 30-06. Yes its flatter, but its still not as good as the 6.5CM. -You already have a 7RUM, then you have a rifle for elf, bear, and larger animals. -6.5CM is prefect for deer sized game out to 500 yards, if you wanted to shoot that far. Now the one thing I would do, is make sure your buying a hunting rifle and not a heavy tactical rifle. Because the majority of 6.5CM's you find will be just that. |
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Something to think about if you live in California is the lead free ammo requirement is now statewide.
If your a reloader see what bullets are available and also if they will stabilize in the gun your looking at.
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Of those? They all work.
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For most California shots, 6.5 or 308 would work fine, and keep you in a short action.
As already mentioned, what has good availability in lead free? That said, the long action with a 270 is not a big deal(the length, not the cartridge)l. I think a 6.5 or 308 in a Remington Pump-action would be cool... Last edited by RNE228; 06-24-2019 at 2:37 PM.. |
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6.5CM 120gr GMX $33/bx .270win 130gr GMX $34/bx 7mmRM 150gr GMX $40.5/bx .308win 165gr GMX $33/bx .30-06 180gr GMX $34/bx Looks like the 6.5CM is probably better for me than the .270 since I already got a .30-06.
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Choose the rifle you like best, whatever it may be chambered for. Already know what rifle you want? 6.5 should recoil less and should be built on a short action.
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I was reading that most 6.5 barrels are in 1:8 twist.
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Please explain just how the cm is better than the .270. Richard
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I would pick the 6.5 Creedmoor simply because it would also be good for longer range shots on antelope and sheep.
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I just got done with a 6.8 spc on an AR15 platform
1-4 30mm scope 16" barrel for quick handling butt then I reload my own so ammo's not a problem. and I "tune" my ammo for accuracy
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Where do I buy tags to go Elf hunting!?!?!
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Since you already have the 30.06 and the 7mm Rem Mag then I say go small. The 6.5 Creed is getting readily available and will work as far out as you want to shoot.
I have a bunch of deer guns between 24 and 30 caliber and really the only difference is recoil. They'll all kill deer as far out as I want to shoot them and now I just keep going to smaller and lighter guns.
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Santa's evil twin that was banished to the south pole.
But, I prefer garden gnomes. Just remember to wrap them in bacon, before you put them in the oven. |
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Damn auto correct lol. Better designed case, better designed bullets. More powder and larger cases doesn’t always mean better rounds. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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It sounds like you are already leaning towards the 270 and if that is the itch you want to scratch, scratch it. no one has given a compelling reason to avoid the 270. subjective yes, compelling no. |
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Maybe if somebody came out with a horse scabbard for the AR, but bolt guns designed for hunting are lighter and generally more accurate. Not to mention OP posted the thread in the NON-AR forum here.
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Sorry for the confusion about ammo prices. I merely posted that information in response to a question about finding leadfree ammo.
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GMX tested, no mention of twist so the usual rifling should do:
https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...-65-creedmoor/ |
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ETA a .270 is not bad for elk, at least at the range I'm used to. If you're looking for more history on the caliber and what it can do, simply google ".270 jack o'conner". Gather a food and drink supply and tcb before you start. Beyond tons of info from Mr. O'Connor
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If you have the 06 and 7mm. For me There is too much over lap with the 270. I get my 270win with 140gr. at 3050/3100fps. that’s 7 mag territory. No sense in two different calibers achieving the same thing.
The 06 you can shoot the heavies if you want. 168,180, 200, 220. The 6.5 would be my choice. It’s actually what I might be getting for my “kids”
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For deer killing purposes, the differences you seek will be practically immeasurable. With a 30-06, and a 150gr bullet, zero 3” high at 100. Out to about 350-375, put the crosshairs square in the middle and squeeze. Won’t be really much different with any other cartridge.
I hunted with my ‘06 for years and just got tired of carrying around a heavier rifle. So I got a ruger American predator in 308. Lighter and an 18” barrel makes for a more handier rifle without sacrificing anything really noticeable in ballistics. The real problem we face is ammo. In America however, there’s no such difficulty. And you’re not going to find more options than ‘06. Rather than caliber, consider the rifle you want to buy. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Hanko
In California lead free ammunition is a requirement not a recommendation so if you don't reload many guns can no longer be used legally. I have a very nice Winchester 25/35 that will most likely never go hunting again do to no ammunition availability. Luckily for the original poster he can find ammo for all of his choices Bobga I would measure a bullet and run it across a free internet twist calculator. Most if the solids seem to require about 2 inches more twist than the same weight jacketed bullets require.
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For most deer guns with 10 - 12 twist barrels you don't worry about lead free twist unless you shoot the heavy for caliber bullets.
Push a 130 grain Barnes TSX out of the 270 Win. really fast and it's as flat shooting as you could want out past 400 yards. It's longer than most 140 grain and some 150 grain, cup and core bullets and will penetrate similarly.
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But Coke is better.
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Will said rifle do double duty hunting/long range target shooting? If so, I would probably choose the 6.5CM. You already have rifles that will cover larger game & the elusive elf.
I have hunted with an 06’ for a number of years. About 8 years ago, I bought a new rifle that I had wanted for awhile. I chose .270 and have not looked back. I’m loading 110gr Barnes TTSX. If hunting larger game, I can either shoot the 06’, or load the 130gr Barnes TTSX, and be good. For typical hunting with lead free, the 270 will out perform the 6.5CM. For comparison, look at the Barnes Data. http://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-cont...ard-2017-1.pdf However, for medium size game the 6.5CM will get the job done. It will perform better than the 270 for long range target shooting, and will do all this with a little less felt recoil. |
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