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Old 09-19-2021, 4:38 AM
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.223 might be a good idea. Hmm...thanks.
You want to make sure your rifle has at least 1 X 8 twist. That way you can shoot the heavier bullets....( It's a must )
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.223 might be a good idea. Hmm...thanks.
Actually, .223 is a *great* idea. It's a low-recoil, high-velocity round. They use it at Talladega out to 600 yards, though as someone's already put it, you'll want a fast twist rate to maintain bullet flight stability out to that distance. A 1:8 will handle the heavier, longer 80-grain longer-distance bullets just fine. The mil-standard 55- and 62-grain bullets will likewise be fine in a 1:8 twist barrel. And yes, .223 Remington is very commonly available in the United States, even more than 7.62x39.

There are many fine choices for a bolt gun in .223 Remington. One of them is the Remington 700. You've also got Savage, Winchester, Tikka, CZ, Weatherby, Ruger--you name the gun company, they make a rifle in .223 Rem.
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Cheap ammo, is a thing of the past
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serbian ppu m80 is decent and used to get it for $0.40/rd. ~1.5moa.
As is FNM 82 ball and RG 70s vintage ball.
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Cheap ammo, is a thing of the past
It also kinda killed cheap guns for me. For the cost of the ammo Iím going to shoot something nice.
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After all this, and me being a cheapskate when it comes to paying for ammo, I've decided to get a CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39. I think the 7.62x39 will do everything I want, I'll just have to shoot at shorter ranges, probably 100 to 200 yards, with 300 yards maximum on a good day. I already have an AK so the two rifles can share ammo. I may go for .308 in the future once I've mastered the 7.62x39. Thanks again guys.
Good choice.

FWIW, Rob Ski hits man size targets at 500 yards with his AK ( 7.62 X 39 ) with regular Wolf Ammo.

https://youtu.be/Qiq3szgZgjI

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Remember, you'll find quality of ammo affects groups even on a 7.62x39. If you use plain ball ammo, don't have high expectations. If you move to higher grade ammo, you will generally find better accuracy.

For the ranges you mention, as others have already mentioned, 223/5.56 would be a great choice, and has a good selection of higher grade to match grade ammo selection.

Carbine and longer range accuracy don't typically go hand in hand.

Have you considered a short action with a target barrel? Start with 223/5.56 in a 1-8 twist, with option to rebarrel to 308 later?

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After all this, and me being a cheapskate when it comes to paying for ammo, I've decided to get a CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62x39. I think the 7.62x39 will do everything I want, I'll just have to shoot at shorter ranges, probably 100 to 200 yards, with 300 yards maximum on a good day. I already have an AK so the two rifles can share ammo. I may go for .308 in the future once I've mastered the 7.62x39. Thanks again guys.
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