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Old 10-27-2019, 12:06 AM
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Default .380 115grn recipe

Anyone have a recipe using tite group for a .380 115grn fmj. It'll be for a Glock G42 Thanks
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Old 10-29-2019, 9:42 PM
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Try the 121 grain bullet from Montana Gold. W231 or Bullseye should do the trick. The typical 9mm
115 bullet length, not cartridge overall length, bullet length, hasn't worked for me.

Call Hodgdon, they will give you the particulars.
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Old 10-29-2019, 11:15 PM
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I would not use that heavy a bullet in front of Titegroup in a .380. The max charge with a 100gr bullet is only 3grs. With a 115, youd be in the low 2s, and a 0.1gr variance in the charge could be very significant.

There is a very good reason you cant find a recipe for this combo - its a bad idea.


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Old 10-29-2019, 11:27 PM
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Anyone have a recipe using tite group for a .380 115grn fmj. It'll be for a Glock G42 Thanks
In general, bullets that heavy are too long to be safely seated in 380 cases as the case wall gets thicker further down inside the case and seating bullets beyond the neck can cause dramatically higher pressures.

However, assuming you could get around that problem maybe with a bevel base bullet AND get cartridges to fit in magazines and feed, here is what Quickload has to say for a Hornady 115gr fmj bullet seated to standard 380 length loaded to 19k psi:

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Cartridge          : .380 Auto (9mm Kurz)
Bullet             : .355, 115, Hornady FMJ/RN ENC 35557
Useable Case Capaci: 5.588 grain H2O = 0.363 cm
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 0.984 inch = 24.99 mm
Barrel Length      : 3.3 inch = 82.6 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 19000 psi, or 131 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 100 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

1 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 60%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Vihtavuori N330                     93.3      3.1     0.20     864    93.0    19000    3513   0.470  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant UNIQUE                      98.9      3.3     0.21     855    83.5    19000    3660   0.486  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Universal                   90.5      3.0     0.19     850    92.5    19000    3497   0.491  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant POWER PISTOL                97.2      4.0     0.26     845    63.1    19000    3621   0.476  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N320                     88.0      2.7     0.17     842    98.4    19000    3119   0.480  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 3N37                    100.0      4.0     0.26     841    72.8    18917    3480   0.476  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant BULLSEYE                    81.7      2.8     0.18     838    84.6    19000    3388   0.480  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Silhouette                  78.8      3.5     0.23     832    79.5    19000    3335   0.481  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WAP                      79.0      3.5     0.23     830    79.0    19000    3319   0.482  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N340                     94.7      3.2     0.21     829    83.3    19000    3258   0.483  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant GREEN DOT                   89.4      2.6     0.17     826    97.5    19000    3076   0.497  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate Solo 1250                  94.3      2.9     0.19     825    90.9    19000    3108   0.482  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 231                      73.9      2.9     0.19     823    92.8    19000    3089   0.486  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Zip                         66.4      2.9     0.19     823    92.8    19000    3089   0.486  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Longshot                    74.7      3.9     0.25     822    72.4    19000    3267   0.483  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 540                      72.8      3.9     0.25     822    72.7    19000    3265   0.483  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot True Blue                   74.0      3.9     0.25     822    72.5    19000    3260   0.483  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate No.5                       72.2      3.8     0.25     822    66.9    19000    3304   0.483  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant RED DOT                     89.9      2.3     0.15     821    99.9    19000    2879   0.497  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon HP38                        65.4      2.8     0.18     821    93.7    19000    3048   0.487  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
This is all based on a computer simulation and is NOT tested load data.
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Old 10-30-2019, 7:41 PM
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My Lyman 50th list Bulleye, Red Dot, 700x, 231, SR7625, Power Pistol and HS6 using Hornady HP/XTP #35540, 115 gr.
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Old 10-31-2019, 1:32 PM
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The Montana Gold 121 grain bullet is not very long. And my .380 loads function
flawlessly in 3 different brand .380s using them.

Well, I mean they did function properly, before the boating incident.
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Old 11-01-2019, 2:35 PM
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I typically shoot 90 grain bullets in my 380's some 100 gn. It gets increasing difficult to get the velocity up in the 380 as the bullet increases in weight over 100 grains. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I want my 90 grainers traveling close to 1,000 fps.
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Old 11-12-2019, 5:22 AM
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I recently reloaded and tested in four different 380s Hornady XTP 90 gr. over 3.3 gr. Titegroup at .965 OAL.
All four guns did great with that load and particularly an old Colt Mustang and the G42.
My thought/thinking is if Im gonna shoot such a small gun, Id like it to have some velocity.
Id not try to use the 115s here. Too heavy of a bullet to get decent velocity.
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