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Old 08-04-2019, 9:59 AM
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No, they are not falling apart internally. That is a coordinated campaign to discredit it. With a lot of suckers listening and propagating left wing lies.
Seems to me that what North was trying to accomplish matches the letter above for the other 3 board members resigning. Also, board member Buz Mills appeared on Gun Talk recently and is currently requesting an independent audit, and board member Allen West had released a statement in May requesting Wayne to step down due to "despicable spending of member's money". None of this came from leftist media...all straight from the horse's mouths, as it were. Do we need to pull the dockets on all the lawsuits filed between NRA and Ack-Mac and North, which also mentions Chris Cox as an accomplice in a failed coup attempt, for more evidence?

You must have taken Marion "Toe the Line" Hammer's memo to heart. It's one thing to have a common goal or belief, it's another to fully trust imperfect human beings. Do your own research and come to your own conclusions before you decide to take the red pill or the blue one.
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The 2016 Form 990 shows a loss of $45 million and the 2017 Form 990 shows a loss of $17 million, so over those two years, they've definitely used up a bunch of capital, probably related to the 2016 elections. I do not see their 2018 Form 990 anywhere as of yet, so while they could have increased revenues, what about expenses for 2018? Also, member dues in 2017 only made up 41% of the total revenue, so they are heavily reliant on additional donations and other forms of income.
Understood. We would expect expenditures up for the 2016 presidential election cycle. I presume NRA spent more than usual in 2018 mid-terms too, don't know how much. That NRA is dependent on donations, and that they may be reduced because of the negative PR - as well as those who might join being discouraged because of it - is something we all ought to consider. And the consequences of NRA having to largely sit on its hands in 2020. Not only for the presidential election but Congress too.

I wouldn't call it a "silver lining" but there may be a beneficial aspect to this drama. Is sitting out the 2020 presidential election and focusing on Congress such a bad thing for NRA?

NRA has to decide whether to spend about $35M getting the current President re-elected or, if that doesn't seem likely, sitting it out and directing money elsewhere. If President Trump seems much more likely to lose than win, should NRA dump that money into a "lost cause" would be the question. Being associated with a losing national candidate would also be presented in the media as a diminished effectiveness. Public perception is important.

On the other hand, if NRA withholds and he loses - NRA takes a hit as having contributed to the loss, especially if it's close. But, if President Trump wins, well those who didn't support him, who "turned tail" when things got tough, probably can't expect to get their calls returned from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. So there's a risk and cost to being involved with the 2020 presidential election, as well as declining to do so.

Focusing on winnable and less expensive congressional elections, with a bow towards putting their own affairs in order, may be a gracious way to sidestep a whole host of Hobsons' Choices.

The above is just SWAG and alot of "just supposing" on my part.

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Come on Guys . These board members put a lot on the line, to resign , an to call out on misappropriations on Wayne . He needs to resign and someone else to step in. Our 2A is at stake , especially in such a crucial period in history

Exactly right, very well said. As soon as I saw this post I predicted that some kneejerk responder would call them ďwhinyĒ, defend LaPierre, and say the NRA is better off without them. I disagree. As a Benefactor Life Member, Iíve supported the NRA for 50 years, and will continue to stand by the organization no matter what, but LaPierre is clearly doing his best to clean house and make life difficult for those who donít wholeheartedly support him, and that doesnít jibe with my understanding of how the NRA is supposed to function or succeed. The NRA isnít a dictatorship, and LaPierre isnít Mussolini.

At this point itís not a question at all if his $5 million salary, and $500,000 in the last year on clothes and travel is appropriate or not; the point is heís become a lightning rod for anti-gun forces to hurt the NRA, and our movement, and needs to go. The sooner the better.

Kudos to these people for putting the NRA ahead of their own personal benefits.

And for the record, Iím not a Democrat, and havenít ďinfiltrated the list,Ē but would not be surprised at all if that has happened. IMO this mess at the top levels of the NRA was caused and had been made worse primarily by one person, and that needs to be addressed.

Iím sure anti-gunners are gleefully doing their best to drag down the NRA in the midst of this. As someone else pointed out, Iím also extraordinarily suspicious that back to back shootings have taken place in the midst of all this internal dissension. (The Reichstag fire comes to mind, but that does seem far fetched.)

I hope that an independent review of the NRAís finances and spending will clean up the mess at NRA HQ and allow the NRA to move on and accomplish its mission. Iím going to continue to support it while that happens, but will also be calling for an explanation and some accountability.


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Resigning may have been the best way to get the point across if they were powerless to affect change from the inside. Additionally, why should a board member be liable for an organization that is obfuscating their operational activities? I don't blame them one bit!



As a board member for CRPA, I am keenly aware of my oversight responsibilities, and I can proudly state that Chuck Michel, Rick Travis, and others are doing a fantastic job with the organization. In fact, I have encouraged Chuck to run for Wayne's job if it becomes available.


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Exactly right, very well said. As soon as I saw this post I predicted that some kneejerk responder would call them ďwhinyĒ, defend LaPierre, and say the NRA is better off without them. I disagree. As a Benefactor Life Member, Iíve supported the NRA for 50 years, and will continue to stand by the organization no matter what, but LaPierre is clearly doing his best to clean house and make life difficult for those who donít wholeheartedly support him, and that doesnít jibe with my understanding of how the NRA is supposed to function or succeed. The NRA isnít a dictatorship, and LaPierre isnít Mussolini.

At this point itís not a question at all if his $5 million salary, and $500,000 in the last year on clothes and travel is appropriate or not; the point is heís become a lightning rod for anti-gun forces to hurt the NRA, and our movement, and needs to go. The sooner the better.

Kudos to these people for putting the NRA ahead of their own personal benefits.

And for the record, Iím not a Democrat, and havenít ďinfiltrated the list,Ē but would not be surprised at all if that has happened. IMO this mess at the top levels of the NRA was caused and had been made worse primarily by one person, and that needs to be addressed.

Iím sure anti-gunners are gleefully doing their best to drag down the NRA in the midst of this. As someone else pointed out, Iím also extraordinarily suspicious that back to back shootings have taken place in the midst of all this internal dissension. (The Reichstag fire comes to mind, but that does seem far fetched.)

I hope that an independent review of the NRAís finances and spending will clean up the mess at NRA HQ and allow the NRA to move on and accomplish its mission. Iím going to continue to support it while that happens, but will also be calling for an explanation and some accountability.


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Perhaps they could do some good assisting the Save the 2nd group? After all, I'd presume that while not BoD members they're still NRA members. Bit of a coin toss as to whether having resigned equates to burned bridges, maybe yes or maybe not.

Regarding Lapierre, I would disagree on what would be presented in the media as a forced resignation. The better approach, if a change is to be made, is one publicly seen as being on NRA terms and a deliberate, planned "the torch has been passed" transition of responsibility. We should avoid "weakness is provocation".
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So, 3 board members have a differing view of how things should work on a 76 member board is an issue threatening the very existence (as stated by some here) of the greatest civil rights org in the 240 odd years of the nation. If 73 members are in congress to a level wherein they are NOT driven to take such measures, especially in the ultra high stakes world of the 2A. Here is a question, how would you feel if Heston were still the figurehead of our NRA? Do you believe he would catch flack for flying private charter? For wearing fine clothing?
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Yup more yapping and more excuses to save the 35 bucks this year !
Times like this, I wish I were not a life member, so I could not renew my membership.

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Wayne LaPierre needs to resign. Heís clearly lost the ability to lead the NRA. Iím a lifetime member so my voting wonít change but the NRA needs a housecleaning.
Wayne needs to goooo!
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And Oliver North did what for the NRA. Looks to me like he is the interloper here. His 1m salary from Ackermen McQueen was a tv deal. So he goes and the leaders decide NRA TV is not the direction we should go with the donations. North played dirty in the military and ratted on his leadership. Why is it not obvious this is a repeat performance? The simple fact that well known republicans in office and in the DOD and DOJ are actively conspiring to take out Trump in plain sight, should give us great suspicion of a coup attempt at NRA. Why did Pete Brownell not chime in or call for fiscal reform. He don't need the money.

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Why is Ackerman McQueen not even being questioned in this "out with Wayne" trend? They are being sued by NRA for bloated and questionable billing.

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Just another "Wounded Warrior - type scam." The only difference is the NRA banks on your anger & thinking you're helping rights & freedom, while the Wounded Warrior Project banks on your warmth & fuzziness & thinking you're helping veterans.

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And Oliver North did what for the NRA. Looks to me like he is the interloper here. His 1m salary from Ackermen McQueen was a tv deal. So he goes and the leaders decide NRA TV is not the direction we should go with the donations. North played dirty in the military and ratted on his leadership. Why is it not obvious this is a repeat performance? The simple fact that well known republicans in office and in the DOD and DOJ are actively conspiring to take out Trump in plain sight, should give us great suspicion of a coup attempt at NRA. Why did Pete Brownell not chime in or call for fiscal reform. He don't need the money.
Bu BuBu But any suspicious activity reported by Bloomberg/ New York Times should not be dismissed. In fact cal gunners should side with them because both New York Times and Bloomberg have done lots more than Wayne and NRA in preserving and furthering gun rights.

In fact the New York Times/Bloomberg reporting is so accurate and unbiased, many cal gunners think that innocent until proven guilty is an obsolete concept !

Since you have only a few posts on this site, its only fair to point out. Many of these get the NRA cal gunners, were on the front lines here in California. Making this state the envy of Bloomberg/ New York Times readers everywhere !

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Thanks ja308, been here a for years, just always had the sense to keep my mouth shut in a commifornia forum. But I am done. These bad seeds need to starved of any moisture whatsoever.
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Resigning may have been the best way to get the point across if they were powerless to affect change from the inside. Additionally, why should a board member be liable for an organization that is obfuscating their operational activities? I don't blame them one bit!

As a board member for CRPA, I am keenly aware of my oversight responsibilities, and I can proudly state that Chuck Michel, Rick Travis, and others are doing a fantastic job with the organization. In fact, I have encouraged Chuck to run for Wayne's job if it becomes available.
Maybe you can ask Chuck and Rick why they are wasting time and money attacking other pro-2A groups
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Maybe you can ask Chuck and Rick why they are wasting time and money attacking other pro-2A groups
The budget does not reflect your statement. Maybe you can be more specific?
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Not unless we anticipating a Cincinnati-type revolt.
Who was the NRA president when you joined as a life member?
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The budget does not reflect your statement. Maybe you can be more specific?
They've sent letters accusing SDCGO of trying to duplicate or replace them, criticising the executive director and had NRA threaten to sue them.
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They've sent letters accusing SDCGO of trying to duplicate or replace them, criticising the executive director and had NRA threaten to sue them.
There are many groups doing similar work. They don't get sued or put on notice of suit. What did SDCGO do to generate that reaction?
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Harlon B. Carter's name was on my Life Membership card
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It sure is odd that when the big attacks on the 2A, the trolls and haters pour out like cockroaches from Hillary's pantsuit.
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Come on Guys . These board members put a lot on the line, to resign , an to call out on misappropriations on Wayne . He needs to resign and someone else to step in. Our 2A is at stake , especially in such a crucial period in history
It sounds like Wayne is taking a page out of Donaldís playbook, loyalty, not integrity and merit, are the keys to longevity.

If you donít toe the line with blind loyalty, regardless what your morals and ethics are saying, youíre out.

I think this is a failed strategy in the long run as you will never hear a diversity of perspectives and lose out on potential great ideas. And for what? To placate an ego.

Me thinks this may not end well for all involved, particularly the 2A
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It sounds like Wayne is taking a page out of Donald’s playbook, loyalty, not integrity and merit, are the keys to longevity.

If you don’t toe the line with blind loyalty, regardless what your morals and ethics are saying, you’re out.

I think this is a failed strategy in the long run as you will never hear a diversity of perspectives and lose out on potential great ideas. And for what? To placate an ego.

Me thinks this may not end well for all involved, particularly the 2A
Where and when has President Trump not shown integrity and merit ? What diverse ideas have came from his enemies that we needed to consider?

Try running a business that has diverse player's trying for the CEOs job for their own self aggrandizement and power! See how that works out !

There was a 5th column that is now routed out of the NRA . We will do much better w/o them!

Wayne La Pierre has a winning strategy and Col North and the ad agency did not!
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Ja308 - seconded.

[Try running a business that has diverse player's trying for the CEOs job for their own self aggrandizement and power! See how that works out !]

Have you finger pointers (kputniks) served as an officer or even on the board of a large organzation? If I had a buck for every time someone disagreed with the things the leadership does I would have Trump level paper.
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Have you not figured out this is an all out war against leftists that want the NRA to disappear.

Do you think it is just dumbass bubba who packed Indy again this year. Are they all just clueless sheep following Wayne off the cliff?

Oh and here is a question for ya, do you think that those 7 (CA) US house seats flipped by 1 or 2% weeks after the polls closed legitimately, was it just bad luck.
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[QUOTE=cmichini;23300127]It sounds like Wayne is taking a page out of Donald’s playbook, loyalty, not integrity and merit, are the keys to longevity.

If you don’t toe the line with blind loyalty, regardless what your morals and ethics are saying, you’re out.QUOTE]


Donald's playbook is to save the God forsaken country, not by himself, but by listening to the LOUD cries of the real American people. When Wayne and the NRA went against the RINO turncoats, to endorse DJT, then major players in the industry (and on the NRA BOD) flipped out.

Betcha Ollie could never get 30 - 50k people to stand on line for two days waiting to see him talk. Be logical

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It would appear that there is a pattern at play here, the "Wayne go away" crowd are also never Trumper's. Which tells me all I need to know. I am not mad at you, it is simply that the beam in your eye is not allowing you to see the speck in your American brother's eye. George W (duhilt, them weapons of mass destruction gotta be somewhere) took the wood out of most conservative's eyes. And Zero (renegade) "If ya like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" woke up the salvageable dems, time to wake the F up or be cast into the pit with the antifa commies.
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If you donít toe the line with blind loyalty, regardless what your morals and ethics are saying, youíre out.QUOTE]


Donald's playbook is to save the God forsaken country, not by himself, but by listening to the LOUD cries of the real American people. When Wayne and the NRA went against the RINO turncoats, to endorse DJT, then major players in the industry (and on the NRA BOD) flipped out.

Betcha Ollie could never get 30 - 50k people to stand on line for two days waiting to see him talk. Be logical
This is exactly how I see it and you Sir said it perfectly! Thank you !
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I'm not a Trump supporter but I'm also not a never-Trumper.

I also think Wayne needs to go. There are some real problems with how the NRA is being run and his stepping down would make for an orderly process for cleaning things up.

But this is also not a time to abandon the NRA.

We cannot force Wayne out. He is heavily entrenched and the membership hasn't what it takes to move him so it would be stupid to try.

At the same time, government entities are going after Wayne and his management. If it is possible to find a way to get rid of Wayne, they'll find it.

So we are in a situation where the NRA is still effectively necessary for our freedom. I will not be substantially hurt if Wayne is there a little longer and neither will the rest of you.

Abandoning the NRA means that one of the most important influencers in keeping Trump on the right path is NRA in the form of Wayne. We cannot afford to lose the NRA influence at this time.

We have to understand. Trump is NOT sophisticated on the right to self defense. He is a better friend to the right to self-defense than any other POTUS during my rather long lifetime but he has to have the NRA as the resource to kick the stuffing back into him when his populism makes him want to do stupid stuff.

So stand with the NRA. Thinking Wayne needs to go is not an adequate reason to abandon an institution which is still necessary for freedom. Trying to get rid of Wayne by complaining in this forum is like "kicking against the *****s" (look it up if you need to). Wow! I got censored - and there wasn't anything vulgar, profane, or obscene and is literally a reference from the Bible. . .

Stand with Trump even though I don't like the guy. He is orders of magnitudes better than anyone who has even a hope of beating him in 2020.

Hold your nose if you have to.


One other note on Trump? While I think poorly of him in general, I give him mad props for taking the job of POTUS. He didn't need the job and could have just hung out with his rather good-looking wife and going around on yachts. I sincerely believe he ran for office because he had figured out that no one else who could get elected would clean up the mess.
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Alright ya ol cuss, there had to be one exception. But something you said perhaps you overlooked. You state that Wayne is "heavily entrenched" but what if, contrarily he is just heavily revered. Wayne has done more for our 2A rights than just about anyone I can think of.

Ja308 thanks and you are spot on, It is amazing how many people are not aware that the Rothschilds own Reuters and AP which is where all mainstream news get their scripts. All Americans should know what the 2012 amendment to the Smith-Mundt act did to our media. We are now legally being fed propaganda.
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God dang it, all this is what the Democraps want. They will love that the NRA is being destroyed. They have been fighting them for a long time. I wish NRA would be lean and mean. Quit giving away all the free stuff unless it is given to them from other gun businesses. Tell how they have changed in the last 30 years and then you will know what to reverse to fix it. Stick to the Creed & Bylaws. Let's see their budget & get rid of the heavyweights. But I did love to see their advertisements and posters of the old days. We will never give up our guns to a Democrap.
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Old Cuss and Lucky said it well!

The old saw of hanging together or separately is the real point. Why, why give the opposition exactly what they want which is the end of the NRA.

Fella's, there will be time to kill the coyote AFTER those chickens are secured!
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On Sunday's (8/18/2019) edition of Fox's The Next Revolution with Steve Hilton there was a segment covering the shady transactions of Wayne LaPierre's tenure, documenting his extravagant lifestyle at the membership's expense. Hilton even mentioned a deal where Ackerman McQueen would purchase a multi-million dollar estate for LaPierre with NRA payback, a deal that fell through. It was an ugly picture that raised serious questions. Hilton called for an internal audit, and subsequent action to remove LaPierre, if found true. Now that the dirty laundry is out there, it can no longer be ignored; action must be taken. When we are at a critical juncture with our Second Amendments rights I would suggest that having the Executive Vice President called out on National TV as a Swamp Creature, as evidenced by the NRA's own documentation, a public relations disaster. Time is nigh for a change. Being a Benefactor Life Member of the NRA, this kerfuffle of negative press recommends a resignation at the minimum.

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On Sunday's (8/18/2019) edition of Fox's The Next Revolution with Steve Hilton there was a segment covering the shady transactions of Wayne LaPierre's tenure, documenting his extravagant lifestyle at the membership's expense. Hilton even mentioned a deal where Ackerman McQueen would purchase a multi-million dollar estate for LaPierre with NRA payback, a deal that fell trough. It was an ugly picture that raised serious questions. Hilton called for an internal audit, and subsequent action to remove LaPierre, if found true. Now that the dirty laundry is out there, it can no longer be ignored; action must be taken. When we are at a critical juncture with our Second Amendments rights I would suggest that having the Executive Vice President called out on National TV as a Swamp Creature, as evidenced by the NRA's own documentation, a public relations disaster. Time is nigh for a change. Being a Benefactor Life Member of the NRA, this kerfuffle of negative press recommends a resignation at the minimum.
Right John and Wayne La Pierre had a secret plan ( until now) to put Martians in this new 6 million house that the didn't buy! But you paid for anyway.

Sources said La Pierre and a wealthy rocket ship builder were doing a secret backroom deal with the NRAs money, to not only have 100 martians living in Waynes palace that he didn't buy, but the martians were supposed to breed with Americans an anonymous source has revealed.

According to people very close to the situation La Pierre wanted to merge the human race with martians to produce a race of people who would fall for anything in print !

When La Pierre was contacted by a source we can't reveal, it was stated Wayne offered a sheepish "No Comment" which proves he along with the secret rocket builder have lots to hide !
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Right John and Wayne La Pierre had a secret plan ( until now) to put Martians in this new 6 million house that the didn't buy! But you paid for anyway.

Sources said La Pierre and a wealthy rocket ship builder were doing a secret backroom deal with the NRAs money, to not only have 100 martians living in Waynes palace that he didn't buy, but the martians were supposed to breed with Americans an anonymous source has revealed.

According to people very close to the situation La Pierre wanted to merge the human race with martians to produce a race of people who would fall for anything in print !

When La Pierre was contacted by a source we can't reveal, it was stated Wayne offered a sheepish "No Comment" which proves he along with the secret rocket builder have lots to hide !
LOL, but this is no joking matter, as humor ends at the gallows. Time to clear the air.
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Another bucket of lies from Bloomberg’s willing stooges.
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Time will tell on the NRA.

As a life member my hope is for transparency and some house cleaning.
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Exactly, when I read the original story on this, it read similar to the Martian story I posted earlier.

The good news is Sir, so far this is limited to a few online sources. If these bogus charges continue and our friends start to believe them, it will hurt fundraising and getting new members.

Getting rid of Wayne and replacing him with a milk toast who still has the Presidents ear will bode very poorly for RKBA and maybe even the President !

Fact is Bloomberg and the Big Democrat media know how win the long game. Fake stories, fake charges, innuendo, unnamed sources, class warfare, jealousy, envy is game the anti gunners are playing. Pleased you are exerperinced enough to see through this diabolical plan !

Just this morning I flashed on seeing shotgun news that was 3/4 inch thick, delivered 3 times a month and even before the internet got popular it got thinner every month.

Because shooters, RKBA people started buying the POWERFUL subliminal ANTI propaganda and people didn't teach their kids or talk guns. Slowly and methodically they are effectively working to destroy the gun culture and its proponents.

This coupled with the fact the new RKBA person is basically illiterate and reads next to nothing, leads us where Wayne LaPiere is under attack!

Time to close ranks and tell Bloomberg to F--OFF ! Wayne is clean and our NRA doesn't need any house cleaning !
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