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Old 03-25-2020, 8:52 AM
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"Just reported that the United States has done far more “testing” than any other nation, by far! In fact, over an eight day span, the United States now does more testing than what South Korea (which has been a very successful tester) does over an eight week span. Great job!"
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...24631230308353

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According to that article, the SK success was basically due to their surveillance state

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Old 03-25-2020, 10:08 AM
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Uh. You guys are measuring the wrong thing. We are the 3rd most populous nation. Comparing our total number of tests to a much smaller country's tests is the same as saying America has more murders than El Salvador -- it's true, but you're measuring the wrong thing.

In terms of tests per capita we are way behind.

I have to ask, why grasp at straws like this?
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I'm pretty sure anyone with two functioning brain cells, regardless of party, can see the reality of our testing capacity situation.
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According to that article, the SK success was basically due to their surveillance state


SK’s land area is 1/100 of the US (between the land area of KY and IN), 15% of our population and bordered on three sides by water and on the other by NK.

Those points also makes it a wee bit easier.
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Uh. You guys are measuring the wrong thing. We are the 3rd most populous nation. Comparing our total number of tests to a much smaller country's tests is the same as saying America has more murders than El Salvador -- it's true, but you're measuring the wrong thing.

In terms of tests per capita we are way behind.

I have to ask, why grasp at straws like this?
Shifting the goal posts. We have done more testing than anyone else. True statement.

Per capita is not being discussed.
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Shifting the goal posts. We have done more testing than anyone else. True statement.

Per capita is not being discussed.
And South Korea has tested a lot of people but their results show that they have shown a 2.5% rate of positive tests. Therefore, some 97.5% of their tests have been, pretty much, useless.
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Umm that's grasping for straws. We are far behind lesser countries just because of the simple fact we don't ACTUALLY have that many tests. Trust me , is all I can say. Folks are being lead astray on testing abilities.

I know for a FACT there are 5-6 very large cities that barely have over 300 COMPLETE test kits. The key being COMPLETE test kits.
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Uh. You guys are measuring the wrong thing. We are the 3rd most populous nation. Comparing our total number of tests to a much smaller country's tests is the same as saying America has more murders than El Salvador -- it's true, but you're measuring the wrong thing.

In terms of tests per capita we are way behind.

I have to ask, why grasp at straws like this?
Funny.......then why are they saying the US is just like Italy?
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Umm that's grasping for straws. We are far behind lesser countries just because of the simple fact we don't ACTUALLY have that many tests. Trust me , is all I can say. Folks are being lead astray on testing abilities.

I know for a FACT there are 5-6 very large cities that barely have over 300 COMPLETE test kits. The key being COMPLETE test kits.
Let's hope the tests approved last week get delivered on the 30th and we see a spike in tests. NY seems to be doing it. Los Angles doesn't.
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Fresno county - population 995,000 has 200 test kits available

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I talked to some friends in India tonight (their Thursday) and they boasted about only having 600 infections in the whole country. I thought to myself, 600 infections in a country of 1 billion? Um, maybe they only have 600 infections because they have only done 600 tests. Contrast that with the US’s 50,000 infected. I’d say, ya, we’ve done way more tests than anyone else.
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This was posted by another CGer https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA.../NR20-031.aspx

As of 2:00 CA had only done 26,400 tests. Of those, 12,000 were pending.

Elsewhere there are articles detailing the many faults and mistakes by the experts who have been responsible for this scenario for years if not decades. This is not on Trump, Obama or any other POTUS. These bureaucrats are there to do this and it couldn't have been much worse.

The only reason we are making up ground in testing is they opened it up to private labs. Get government out of the way.
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Umm that's grasping for straws. We are far behind lesser countries just because of the simple fact we don't ACTUALLY have that many tests. Trust me , is all I can say. Folks are being lead astray on testing abilities.

I know for a FACT there are 5-6 very large cities that barely have over 300 COMPLETE test kits. The key being COMPLETE test kits.
According to this site, which tracks state level data, 462k tests have been performed, 367k negative.

Protocols for who gets tested are still very strict, so those numbers are not very high yet for a population of 350 million.

Keep in mind that last flu season only about 200k were tested, but it was estimated that 60 million got it.
https://covidtracking.com/data/
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This was posted by another CGer https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA.../NR20-031.aspx

As of 2:00 CA had only done 26,400 tests. Of those, 12,000 were pending.

Elsewhere there are articles detailing the many faults and mistakes by the experts who have been responsible for this scenario for years if not decades. This is not on Trump, Obama or any other POTUS. These bureaucrats are there to do this and it couldn't have been much worse.

The only reason we are making up ground in testing is they opened it up to private labs. Get government out of the way.
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As of 2 p.m. PDT on March 24, approximately 66,800 tests had been conducted in California. This includes the latest numbers California has received from commercial and private labs and the 22 state and county health labs that are currently testing. At least 18,276 results have been received and another 48,600 are pending.
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/OPA.../NR20-033.aspx
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Thanks for the updated data. So as of the 24th the state has only 18K test results from individuals with either contact with a positive case or showing all the symptoms. Many have been advised to remain home and not be tested.

Hopefully the turn around time on the tests continues to shorten.

Is NY even testing anymore?
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Thanks for the updated data. So as of the 24th the state has only 18K test results from individuals with either contact with a positive case or showing all the symptoms. Many have been advised to remain home and not be tested.

Hopefully the turn around time on the tests continues to shorten.

Is NY even testing anymore?
NY over 100k tests according to state level data.
https://covidtracking.com/data/state/new-york/
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Far more important than how many tests preformed or how many tests per capita is how accurate are the tests.


It seems that they early cheep tests were give it between 10-30% false negatives That is massive because with a false negative the patient is very likely to unknowingly spread the disease.


We waited until far more reliable tests were available. It’s the responsible thing to do.
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Far more important than how many tests preformed or how many tests per capita is how accurate are the tests.


It seems that they early cheep tests were give it between 10-30% false negatives That is massive because with a false negative the patient is very likely to unknowingly spread the disease.


We waited until far more reliable tests were available. It’s the responsible thing to do.

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China Supplied Faulty Coronavirus Test Kits to Spain, Czech Republic

The majority of rapid test coronavirus test kits supplied by China to Spain and the Czech Republic are faulty, local news outlets reported.

Up to 80 percent of the 150,000 portable, quick coronavirus test kits China delivered to the Czech Republic earlier this month were faulty, according to local Czech news site Expats.cz. The tests can produce a result in 10 or 15 minutes but are usually less accurate than other tests. Because of the high error rate, the country will continue to rely on conventional laboratory tests, of which they perform about 900 a day.
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