Bee Canyon Info. Site / OPEN . Dec. 9th

[Seven_SixTwo]

Any info for the canyons this weekend? Too late to call the Rangers... too impatient to wait until tomorrow morning.

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by Seven_SixTwo

Any info for the canyons this weekend? Too late to call the Rangers... too impatient to wait until tomorrow morning.

A little rain on the windshield ain't enough to open the canyons yet

[crash02]

I called the station a couple days ago and they said not until everything is completely saturated.
Not sure if you have this link but here you go:http://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/sbnf/...6525&actid=106

[MikeR]

It rained like a mother here last night, enough that they had to doze all the mud off gilman springs near the insane asylum.

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by MikeR

It rained like a mother here last night, enough that they had to doze all the mud off gilman springs near the insane asylum.

Near the What ???
Where is that ?

[MikeR]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

Near the What ???
Where is that ?

Oops sorry, I meant to type the scientology compound. Just came out wrong

[crash02]

I'm guessing the scientology compound?

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by crash02

I'm guessing the scientology compound?

Got it ,,,,,,,
Don't stop along the road there

"You will be assimilated"

"Resistance is futile"

[purer00r]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

Got it ,,,,,,,
Don't stop along the road there

"You will be assimilated"

"Resistance is futile"

Lol

[richardfl3]

1:30 PM. Monday afternoon. White Truck. 4th canyon. 3 guys. Stop shooting when the canyons are closed! It's a good way to get us all banned! Yup, I saw you from that helicopter circling you at 3000'. Please realize that the canyons are closed for a reason. The first time someone shooting when they are closed causes a fire I'm sure that person will be the last to ever shoot there. I'll keep watching as I can!!

[inbox485]

Originally Posted by richardfl3

1:30 PM. Monday afternoon. White Truck. 4th canyon. 3 guys. Stop shooting when the canyons are closed! It's a good way to get us all banned! Yup, I saw you from that helicopter circling you at 3000'. Please realize that the canyons are closed for a reason. The first time someone shooting when they are closed causes a fire I'm sure that person will be the last to ever shoot there. I'll keep watching as I can!!

Please tell me those idiots at least got their turd dispensers chewed out...

[retired]

The thing is, those shooters were likely not Calgunners since we know we can lose that area. That said, these shooters probably won't ever see your post.

Are you able to contact the Forest Service station there and advise them of the shooters. They will be happy to send out the leo to give them a nice cite. I would surmise that will curtail their shooting excursions into a closed shooting area.

[MikeR]

I think its safe to say the end is near, or the beginning depend on how you look at it.

[crash02]

Looking forward to it, hopefully it will open this weekend.

[Eat Dirt]

Here's some Info >>

I just talked to a Ranger Sunday about this storm and what might happen

IF ,,, and I said IF .....We get enough " Days" of wet
They will consider it

I Will post as soon as I find out anything ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Maybe a Small Canyon Clean-up would show the Forestery Higher-Ups how We feel about this place and get the ball rolling
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[Slimjoey14t]

I could probably get a few guys out there next weekend to help on a cleanup. I got drill with the NG this weekend.

[Eat Dirt]

Today I called Dave at Double-Check ( Retreat you pass on the dirt road to the Canyons)

Last nights storm hit the center + the dirt road Hard.............

He has 3 buildings with mud in them
The Flood of mud came across the road at the water storage pond /Taking out the fence again and part of the road
Another fisher opened up in the dirt road going to the canyons

Sounds like it's a Mess,,,
I'll go up and check it out this weekend and report back
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[inbox485]

Ug... that was enough rain to turn hemet into one giant lake. I'd like to see them try to start a fire up there right now...

Sorry [/rant]. If you think a clean up would help grease some wheels I'm in (just make sure to clarify that we'd be cleaning up after other than shooting people ).

[retired]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

Today I called Dave at Double-Check ( Retreat you pass on the dirt road to the Canyons)


Another fisher opened up in the dirt road going to the canyons


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Are you saying there is fishing up there now.

[Eat Dirt]

Bee Canyon Photo Update

I've been getting a Lot of requests as to " How are the Canyons ? "

So , The wife and I took a Rhino trip today to check it out
Put it this way ,,,, I'll need a Lot of quarters for the car wash ........

I'll let the pictures tell the Tale ::

# 1This the Tight turn going toward the shooting area


# 2 This is about halfway to the 1 st. shooting canyon / Flat spot in middle , used to be the road


# 3 Still going ...The flat spot above is where the main road used to be !!!!


# 3 Here's shooting canyon # 1 / Any questions !

[crash02]

Thank you.I was trying to take the Jeep to check it out ,but just could not escape work.

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by crash02

Thank you.I was trying to take the Jeep to check it out ,but just could not escape work.

In a Jeep.........You'll have a Great ride
We went toward Ranger Peak , Lots or ruts and Mud

Here what most of the trail looks like , And this is where I could stop bounceing long enough for the picture

[purer00r]

Looks good to me...

[Eat Dirt]

On my ride Yesterday I met up with OHV Forest patrol guy I know well
And we were talking about the condition of the lower road

He said they might shut the Large gate at the bottom till they can get a dozer down there to do a Lot of grading to repair the road for regular travel

They don't want people getting hurt on what's left of the road down there
Or getting calls ." Help Me " ...........

As we All know , There are a lot of idiots on the trails

[Slimjoey14t]

Any word on shooting for those of us willing to hike up by foot?

[Ninety]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

On my ride Yesterday I met up with OHV Forest patrol guy I know well
And we were talking about the condition of the lower road

He said they might shut the Large gate at the bottom till they can get a dozer down there to do a Lot of grading to repair the road for regular travel

They don't want people getting hurt on what's left of the road down there
Or getting calls ." Help Me " ...........

As we All know , There are a lot of idiots on the trails

Wow. So nature in it's .pure form is too dangerous ? And must be closed so that stupid people don't get stuck and have to call for help?

I wonder how Azusa has stayed open this long. Or Gorman. Or Glamis.

Thanks for the pictures though.. looks pretty rough out there.. I've never been.. how far a hump in is it from those rocks? Looks to be impassible in your rhino.. might be able to get through there in the truck.

[purer00r]

Trail looks like it will keep the riff Raff out, serious marksmen only....

[Slimjoey14t]

From main road to the first shooting area I would say about a mile

[Slimjoey14t]

We just need to find out if shooting is ok first...then remember to bring back your brass and trash

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by Slimjoey14t

From main road to the first shooting area I would say about a mile

You are correct / 1 mile from pavement to first shooting canyon ( The above pic . I posted with the Lg. rocks )

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by Ninety

Wow. Looks to be impassible in your rhino.. might be able to get through there in the truck.

Put on at least 25 Miles of trail riding in the Rhino yesterday / Went thru Lots of ditches and ruts from the runoff / Myself and 3 quads

Even had to pull out one quad that could not make it thru a Muck hole
One spot the water in the dip was more than tire deep

Being smaller that a Jeep , I can squeeze thru and over a Lot

[Eat Dirt]

UPDATE :

Just talked to person at Ranger Station
Said Bee Canyon issues will be at their general meeting later in the week

I'll keep everyone posted

ALSO:
Another reason for a Temp. closing of the main gate would be so they can doze the area and not have to worry about some riders or Off Roaders coming by and having an O-S#@% moment

[Delfuego]

This is what the bottom looks like.

[Eat Dirt]

CANYON UPDATE ::

I met Double-Check Dave in town today and was informed that The canyon road is Closed !!!!!!

Because of road conditions and another storm coming
The Forest Service Has Closed / Locked the main gate

[Slimjoey14t]

Ugh! Thanks for the update. Anyone know of any other places to go and plink? Legally!

[Slimjoey14t]

Besides a pay range?

[Eat Dirt]

OPEN ............OPEN............OPEN

I got a text today from a Ranger that Bee Canyon will be open for shooting as of 12:01 AM this Morning !! ( Who's up for going )

BUT

Now Hear This .............
There are Road Closed signs UP. and I've heard the Main Forest gate is shut
Because of ALL the rain damage /// See Above Pictures
You will have to Park near the Metal Info. sign and walk at least 1/4 in to get to the first shooting canyon ( Again See above pictures of first canyon )

[Eat Dirt]

This picture is near the pond just before Double-Check

Tomorrow add a few inches of water over the Mud !!::

[ColtShooter]

Past the 2nd white gate, right? That's quite the hike carrying gear. When will they plow it?

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by ColtShooter

That's quite the hike carrying gear. When will they plow it?

Good Question ...............................................

Forest Service ?
Lake Hemet Water Distric ?
Orchard Owner ?
Double-Check Retreat ?

Take your pick...... They will most likey wait till next weeks storms are over
OR
Maybe longer if the long term storm out look is WET

Thank You El Nino