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#41
11-16-2007, 9:18 PM
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#42
11-19-2007, 8:08 AM
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response to request for information
I can give you some information regarding your request #1.
I have a few letters from the Ca Dept. of Justice when I asked for specific information regarding the legality of stripped AR-15 type lower receivers. I can give you my requests to them, and the DOJ's replies. I saved all this information. I am somewhat reluctant to join a lawsuit against the DOJ, as I don't need the problems they could bring. (losing my rifles). I really dont want to use my name, or give the forwarded emails they sent me to you. I dont want the DOJ tracing it back to me. I can tho, give you everything that was in the letters. e-mail me at zfishlover@aol.com. Good luck with your efforts. -ShootsStraight |
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#43
11-19-2007, 9:55 AM
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ShootStraight,
Your concerns are not warranted - as these will likely be exposed in the future anyway. This is just 'getting set up', "ducks in a row", etc. If you examine the NRA's submissions to the Aug 16 and Nov 1 2007 DOJ comment submission hearings/acceptance periods about redefinition of term 'detachable magazine', you will see that NRA indirectly got access to a variety of DOJ letters anyway. No one will come to your door - especially due to an inquiry letter like this. You also likely would not be joining any prospective lawsuit. That'd be NRA and a few key affected people, maybe a 'class'. But "Mr. Straight Shooter, Jr." won't be on it.
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 No postings of mine here, unless otherwise specifically noted, are to be construed as formal or informal positions of the Calguns.Net ownership, The Calguns Foundation, Inc. ("CGF"), the NRA, or my employer. No posts of mine on Calguns are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. Last edited by bwiese; 11-19-2007 at 9:58 AM.. |
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#46
11-20-2007, 5:53 PM
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I called about the legality of my MAG-LOCK as well and was told that its illegal. so dont bother to make it and or attempt to market it.
I described the lock as it would require a tool (Allen Wrench) to remove the magazine and a individual would not be able to remove the magazine without the use of the Allen wrench. that was almost 2 years ago. Their misrepresentation of the law might have cost me $$$$ as I would have put more $$$ at the time into this project and hence might have made more out of it. |
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#47
11-20-2007, 6:04 PM
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Everyone,
As you know I wrote to the DOJ about the legality of PTR-91's as well as some other rifles like the Ewbanks Ak type receivers and the Romanian PSL known as the Romak 3 (I believe). What was strange was that Alison M. told me in the letter that Romak 3 rifles were illegal because they were similar to the Romak 991's. I believe Gene has the copy of the ptr-91 letter that I scanned. I also have the other letters if there is any need for them. Please let me know if you need them.
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#48
11-20-2007, 8:03 PM
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I called FAD today , it was around 0420pm and someone answered right after 2 rings. I think it was Bret or Brent? Well, he said that having prince50 or OLL with a fixed mag that detaches via a tool is really a question of interpretation of law. He said he couldnt give a legal advise as they dont make the law and consult with a lawyer as the issues is more with the cops in the sense that they are the ones who would arrest someone if what they found was an AW per their interpretion. he said that these devices or CA legal Ak's that feed from the side etc are based on the interpretation of their designers etc . How ai I supposed to buy a rifle when I dont even know what the interpretation of law according to the cops 2 towns away from me would be? is it worth ending up getting bailed out and spend on legal fees? Is it even worth owning a rifle anymore? Some of us just dont have the $$$ if it ever comes out to hiring an attorney. I am majorly depressed......I am just foreigner , what do I know! Is nt there a way to go to court and get a declaration whether a certain weapon /s and certain configuration is or is not legal? The gun makers can make major $$$$ if the CA courts can clearly define it with something favorable. Any takers for the suit? or is there really a case pending before the court that would define AW in detail? Thanks for reading the post , I am your resident foreigner here! |
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#49
11-20-2007, 8:07 PM
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Things appear to have reached a critical mass.
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11-20-2007, 8:33 PM
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I am very new to Calguns so basically my knowledge regarding ongoing cases is nill! is the Hunt case set some sort of precedent that can clearly bring out/define the law? Pls include a link to this case on the forum if there is one pls!
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#51
11-20-2007, 8:40 PM
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I'd suggest you try using search on Hunt. It's an older case about the by features AW ban.
-Gene
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#52
11-20-2007, 11:22 PM
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2) You're not joining a lawsuit, and even if you did, it would not result in losing your rifles. Yeikes, are people this scared of DOJ?
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#53
11-20-2007, 11:27 PM
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Not everyone has learned first hand that it takes some competence for an organization to be frightening in the first place.
-Gene
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#54
11-20-2007, 11:53 PM
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OH NO HE DIDN'T!
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#55
11-21-2007, 12:49 AM
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Pomona gunshow HK pistol grips, anyone? Robinson Arms seizures, cuz they can't read? And then approval of Evan's/GBsales welded-up named guns? Trying to list an unlistable Saiga? I think they just plan spin-the-bottle up there...
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#56
11-21-2007, 12:52 AM
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LOL! you may be right...but for you to be up this late and thinking about spinning the bottle.......you need a date!!!!! ((and I need some blessed sleep  ))
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#57
11-22-2007, 8:10 AM
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Thank you guys for all you are doing for this sport/hobby(GOD GIVEN RIGHT!). Without people like you those people would be working on banning bolt action rifles cause thats all that would be left.
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11-22-2007, 11:33 AM
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11-22-2007, 12:48 PM
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God, I remember the Pomona gun shows...I remember walking around and seeing a huge bullet and was like, man that's cool. I asked my dad to buy it for me and he did (turns out it was a .50BMG). I walked out with the bullet to parking lot, showed it to my friends, and guess what? Nothing happened...nowadays if a kid did that...I miss the good ole' days.
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11-23-2007, 9:18 PM
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#61
11-23-2007, 9:30 PM
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This is the letter that's in the public domain about Evan's welded lowers:
http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/Eva...2004-11-19.pdf -Gene
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11-24-2007, 12:46 PM
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"Stoner X-15 design"
 PHEW!
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11-24-2007, 3:31 PM
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-Gene
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Gene Hoffman Chairman, The Calguns Foundation DONATE NOW to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @CalgunsFdn on Twitter. Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization. I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly! "The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
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11-24-2007, 5:52 PM
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11-25-2007, 7:49 PM
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 PS- make sure the Vulcan cannon doesn't have more than ten rounds of linked ammo...or tracers. Then you're good. IANAL. |
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11-25-2007, 8:06 PM
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11-25-2007, 9:52 PM
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12-05-2007, 9:23 AM
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"I'll pay you $100 to shovel my driveway" "No Thanks" "Ok, I'll give you a TwoFer (24 pack) of Molson to do it" "Where's the shovel?" Last edited by IAmASensFan; 12-05-2007 at 9:50 AM.. |
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12-06-2007, 4:24 PM
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I think they play pin the tail on the donkey...
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12-14-2007, 9:58 AM
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My donation sent to TM LLP............My wife is gonna freak out....but this is something she just doesnt understand....YET
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12-14-2007, 3:57 PM
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09-15-2009, 3:48 PM
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HA ask the ATF what an assult weapon is. they dont know either.
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05-10-2010, 11:17 PM
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Any new news?
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01-23-2011, 7:58 AM
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It sure would be nice to get an official clarification of what the legal definition (In layman's terms!) of an "Assault Weapon" is!
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01-25-2011, 1:32 PM
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Holy two letter necro resurrection!
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