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Old 10-08-2019, 1:14 AM
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Default M1A Walnut stock. Question?

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When those of you that own walnut stocked M1A rifles leave your rifles stored for long periods, do you open the trigger guard? So the stock does not get crushed by trigger guard pressure. Thanks A2
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No. You want everything locked up and settled in until 3-400 rounds when you (hopefully) break it down to clean the gas plug and bolt.
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Yes, you can open the TG on Garand and M14's for long-term storage. You don't need to remove the receiver from the stock to clean the gas plug. Even if removed, the action "settles in" after 3-4 rounds.

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I don't open the TG all the way, just leave it un-latched to reduce pressure.
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When those of you that own walnut stocked M1A rifles leave your rifles stored for long periods, do you open the trigger guard? So the stock does not get crushed by trigger guard pressure. Thanks A2
I've never done that on my M1A's or my Garand. No apparent problems created.
I don't think the CMP stores them that way in any case.

This may be a "high speed low drag match shooter" kinda thing. IDK
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I never even thought about it on my Loaded... I'm thinking about it now though.
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Wood stocks definitely get the TG unlatched with the hammer down. Helps hold the trigger group in place.
Bedded or aluminum chassis or SHTF rifles stay latched.

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I had the newer wood stock on a Garand rebuild swell enough sitting in my safe with the trigger group unlatched that I had to take a dremel to the stock.
Two minutes of bubba gunsmithing and a little linseed oil and everything worked out just fine.
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CMP forum unlatched vs latched

https://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=29946

I'll keep mine latched thank you.
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I need to pickup some tung oil. That's good to use on walnut huh? I also have a Mauser that hasn't been oiled in forever and it was done with BLO. Probably dry as a bone.
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No. However, if you plan to store longer term, tear down and clean all powder residue off and out of metal items like the gas cyl and opp rod. Powder residue can attract moisture and pit.
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BLO and other finishes only affect the top 1/10th of an inch of the stock, and that's mostly on the outside.

You're never going to get the stock "wet", i.e. every part of the stock "moist" as if it were newly-cut timber, the wood has to age & dry out so it can be milled.

Personally, I'd strip the stock down to bare wood, sand it nicely, and use a nice varnish (Tried & True for me - https://www.triedandtruewoodfinish.com/) to get the gun(s) looking great.
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I've never done that on my M1A's or my Garand. No apparent problems created.
I don't think the CMP stores them that way in any case.

This may be a "high speed low drag match shooter" kinda thing. IDK
Never saw it done in the military with standard issue M14s.

Any M1 rifle that has been sitting in a stock for the past multiple decades isn't going to compress any more than it already is.
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I never even thought about it on my Loaded... I'm thinking about it now though.
Same here.
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This may be a "high speed low drag match shooter" kinda thing. IDK
Yeah, more common with the NM shooters. Their preference is the TG latch has to be closed with "significant" squeeze/pressure or even a rubber mallet. It's common to place strips of cardboard or refrigerator magnet under trigger housing.

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Never saw it done in the military with standard issue M14s.

Any M1 rifle that has been sitting in a stock for the past multiple decades isn't going to compress any more than it already is.
^^ This, in spades. I was in The Old Guard, 3rd US Infantry, and there were seven Infantry companies in the reinforced battalion. Each company had 120 M14s in wood stocks.

I worked in both supply and the arms room and had an intimate familiarity with them. We never unlocked the stocks unless we were changing to plastic to take to the field or range. Didn't matter the weather, humidity, or anything else.

We had a few stocks break because the troops would carve/sand the wrist of the stocks for (mis)handling purposes, but never had a problem with accuracy or stocks rotting, etc. Heavy varnish, occasionally touched up by the troops.
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If you do?
(and even if you don't)

Make sure to grease the Trigger Guard Locking Lugs.


Greasing and lubricating your M1 Garand




Them wearing flat - will do more to the lock-up than old, polymerized walnut.




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