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Old 09-11-2019, 4:16 PM
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Thumbs up Feinwerkbau 800 and Benjamin Marauder .177

If I lay down both side-by-side on a bench for supported shooting;

How will both group at 10m? 50m? 100?

My theory is that FWB 800 may produce tighter grouping at under 50m but Marauder will be tighter further than 50m.

Has anybody tested this?

Trying to understand the capability and potential of both rifles, though they are very different beasts, FWB being ISSF 10m specialist and Ben Marauder is more of a field generalist.

Any expertise is appreciated.
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Old 09-11-2019, 4:33 PM
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An FWB 800 will put all the pellets through the same hole at 10M if you do your part. A Marauder is field accurate. No .177 will group for **** at 50/100 in my experience. Weird comparison, it's like comparing an Anschutz or MS Olympic rimfire to a 10/22.

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Old 09-11-2019, 5:36 PM
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I see. That's not even close then. In this case then the FWB is more suited for my purpose.

What is "field accurate" for a Marauder level/type of gun? like the size of a duck at about 50 yards? 25 yards?
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I see. That's not even close then. In this case then the FWB is more suited for my purpose.

What is "field accurate" for a Marauder level/type of gun? like the size of a duck at about 50 yards? 25 yards?
I only shot 10 meter bullseye and running target. .177 is very light to be shooting at game at any distance. You'll want to look at the .22/.25 calibers for hunting IMO. You were really cross shopping a $400 Benji with a $3K FWB?
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Old 09-11-2019, 7:14 PM
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Yeah, I was trying to draw parallels between long distance shooting (f class) AND 3-positions highpower but using air gun. The more I learn, the more compelling it is for me to go for 10m discipline, especially offhand.
I was also trying to see if a scoped Ben Marauder could be a good substitute for a mini-long range airgun... prone @ 100 yards if there is such a thing to do. It does sound like good wind reading practice at more accessible ranges around me as opposed to going out of my way to a 600-1000 yrd range each time.

But from what I gather, it may be more worthwhile to focus on 10m shooting using the FWB for now. Looking at fwb 800 base model @1.6k.
Not ready to go full-on 3k just yet.
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Yeah, I was trying to draw parallels between long distance shooting (f class) AND 3-positions highpower but using air gun. The more I learn, the more compelling it is for me to go for 10m discipline, especially offhand.
I was also trying to see if a scoped Ben Marauder could be a good substitute for a mini-long range airgun... prone @ 100 yards if there is such a thing to do. It does sound like good wind reading practice at more accessible ranges around me as opposed to going out of my way to a 600-1000 yrd range each time.

But from what I gather, it may be more worthwhile to focus on 10m shooting using the FWB for now. Looking at fwb 800 base model @1.6k.
Not ready to go full-on 3k just yet.
It's a great sport, and way harder than it looks. And of course there's a ridiculous amount of gear involved,which is offset somewhat by ammo costs. Though proper pellets will cost as much as .22. And it's all offhand unless things have changed since I last paid attention (which,granted,has been a few years). And you can probably practice at home, at least inside.
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yeah, I figured it wouldn't be an olympic sport if its that easy. I saw the 10m targets and how small the x ring is. Any pellet ammo cost is extra fantastic in comparison to reloading. Any recommendation for pellets? what is the default 10m match ammo?
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yeah, I figured it wouldn't be an olympic sport if its that easy. I saw the 10m targets and how small the x ring is. Any pellet ammo cost is extra fantastic in comparison to reloading. Any recommendation for pellets? what is the default 10m match ammo?
Air rifles are like .22s, you can never tell what they will like. Try some of everything. RWS, H&N and JSB are all pretty popular. Some of these pellets are like $50 per 500 though.
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Top air rifle competitors experiment with different pellets for their gun and when they find one that they like they buy thousands of pellets from the same lot number.

You might want to look at the sporter class 10m air rifle. It is much less expensive than ISSF 10m shooting.

Here is the CMP website for air gun competition.

http://thecmp.org/air/
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You might want to look at the sporter class 10m air rifle. It is much less expensive than ISSF 10m shooting.

Here is the CMP website for air gun competition.

http://thecmp.org/air/
I appreciate the fact that its much less barrier to entry there. The site led me to Daisy 599 & Air Arms t200, which seems to be a great starter equipment being that its 1k less than what I originally shoppped around for.

I can just order and start now instead of saving up for a bit to get the FWB. So at this point I just have to make a decision on which route to go for.

Start shooting early and upgrade later if needs be, or save up some and shoot a little later with the FWB 800.

I can see how the Daisy or AirArms t200 option is the gateway to fancier gears down the line.
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I appreciate the fact that its much less barrier to entry there. The site led me to Daisy 599 & Air Arms t200, which seems to be a great starter equipment being that its 1k less than what I originally shoppped around for.

I can just order and start now instead of saving up for a bit to get the FWB. So at this point I just have to make a decision on which route to go for.

Start shooting early and upgrade later if needs be, or save up some and shoot a little later with the FWB 800.

I can see how the Daisy or AirArms t200 option is the gateway to fancier gears down the line.
If you want to get into 10m air rifle at the minimum cost the CMP refurbished 853 is a good deal.
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I saw the refurb 853 and amazon primed a 753 instead, it comes today. This is perfect to start off and practice form. In the meantime, saving funds for a more serious pcp down the line. Obviously I have a lot to learn about the different make, brands, features, pellets, etc.
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