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P series Rugers are great - have a P95DC that I picked up cheap, shoots VERY accurately, built like a tank, and reliable. Most "off roster" guns bring a premium, P series go for reasonable prices if and when you can find them.
As a full size handgun, they are I suppose a bit bulky, and hefty, but overall, it's a great, underrated gun - there are a number of variations and calibers in the P series, no "rimfires" though <wink>! |
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I think that’s a p 90. Great work guns with the decocker. Not super accurate but accurate enough. Mine’s in .40 with a blued slide. Love the all metal construction. They often go used here cheap. I’ve often thought of grabbing one in .45. My gun is a tank. 60k rounds before I got a few failures. New recoil springs from ruger and good to go. They wanted to go over the whole gun but I asked to just be shipped springs. I added hogue one piece grips. Even Front Sight instructors complimented the gun. I just prefer a simpler firearm for self defense. If you like it I wouldn’t hesitate.
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Nah, more like a P90 with a P89 magazine next to it for comparison. I have a stainless P90DC with Hogue grips and able to shoot quarters at 10 yards until my arm gets tired. It's my home defense carry.
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Note the decocking lever and magazine well shape on my P90DC: Now compare that to the standard P89: The gun in the top post has a 9mm magwell and 10 round 9mm magazine and a decocker lever and a lanyard ring of the DC models. That makes it possibly a P89DC or a P91DC. Here is the 10 round Ruger 9mm mag for a P89: Here is the 10 round Ruger 40s&w mag for a P91: Can't imagine why they would stick a 9mm magazine next to a 40S&W but I suppose it could also be a P91DC. It's definitely not a P90DC as you can see the magwell opening differences. And with MORE research, I am changing my answer to P85 due to the distinct selector style and the DC models not having the selector slot cut of the standard non DC models:
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Man, every time I see a P-series I kick myself for not loading up on them back in the day. It sucks being so dumb when you’re young!
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P85's have a lanyard loop.
P90's have a lanyard loop. P89's usually don't except decocker versions. The P85 vs P89DC safety levers are distinctively different.
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Hindsight is always spot on. The question is, what guns are important to get right now, to have 30 years from now?
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Look closer at your decocking lever.
how many holes in it? How many painted dots? How about the slot that's milled in the slide that the lever rides in. Look closely at that too.
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It's a Glock. It's the rare electroless nickel plated version with external safety that Gaston had made for elite executives of Glock, Ronald Reagan, Charlton Heston, Masaad Ayoob, Austrian dignitaries, and all the girls at the 'Gold Club'.
I'll sell you mine; $5,500 - comes with stripper sweat as lube, and I'll thrown in a couple boxes of Black Talon 9mm as a bonus. It's off-Roster you know.
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The picture is not a DC (Decocker) model. It’s Definitely a Safety (Decocker Safety). Still not sure if it’s a P85 or P89 though? Does anyone one have a definitive way of telling?
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Look at the picture I posted in post 26. That's a P85 selector. Then look at my standard safety P89 that I posted in post #15. The decocker models have lanyard rings. The standard safety models do not.
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2 dots... red/white Slide slot..... SAME No... MKII stamp..........thumb tab angled 45*.......your decock pic looks like rough MIM.....Mine polished stainless..........small hook forward bottom edge which depresses trig disco when down.........my grip panels have "blackhawk" logo and RUGER name. So NOT EXACTLY on closer examination. Diff Decocker lever..........Diff grips. I'm guessing mine was a bit earlier version because of better finish. |
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The decocker picture in post 26 is from Ruger's recall page for 1987 to 1990 P85's. https://www.ruger.com/P85Recall/.
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^^^NOPE^^^ Now, can someone please explain the diff between the Standard safety....DC.... and DCS models of a P-89. Mentioned here? Mine is mos def a P-89. Says so in big letters on the slide. Decock lever looks like Randals P-89 in #15. Except my pistol has lanyard loop. Lever down shows a white dot frnt hole..... "S" exposed forward of lever on slide....hammer follows slide when racked, and trigger is disconnected. Lever up shows red dot rear hole. No "S" showing. Trigger engaged DA/SA. Lever up pistol in battery. Move lever down....hammer decocks. So is my P-89 a "Safety Decocker"? |
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Yours is what I would call a standard model. The selector has two positions, safe and fire. The selector will stay in either position. Going from fire to safe decocks the hammer. There is no "safe" position on the decocker. The decocker lever is spring loaded and always returns to fire when released. DAO's don't have a safety lever at all.
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I'm going to say that pistol has the worst trigger in the history of semiautomatic pistols. Heaviest grittiest trigger I've ever felt. |
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No. That would be the Colt All American in it seems that Colt tried to surpass the notoriously bad trigger on the HK VP70 (which at least had a reason for its terrible trigger; it was intended/designed to be a submachine gun.)
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There's also the P94 which comes in 9 or 40. But the one in the picture isn't a 94 because they didn't have a lanyard loop. I had one of each to go with my PC9 and PC40 which I regret selling all of them.
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So the "standard" has both a safety and a decocker. I imagine calling it a "safety decocker" would be more descriptive. The "decocker" has a decocker but no safety. For gen info..........mine has a "stainless" upper. I initially thought it may be a hard chrome satin finish. The designation is P-89K for stainless guns. All models have the MIM aluminum frame. SA trigger is IMHO piss poor. And the DA pull I rate "atrocious". With DA trig position way too damn far forward for an easy reach/squeeze. Which is understandable for an old man who grew up shooting revolvers and 1911s. |
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