SCOTUS composition watch

[wireless]

Originally Posted by Offwidth

Socialist. You misspelled socialist.

Yes I did. Modern, mainstream Democratic Party is the party of socialism.

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by tenemae

Joking aside, this is a horrific position for a human to be in. She could have retired under Obama (when she should have). But she was certain Hillary was going to win, and wanted the special privilege of having her replacement be nominated by the first female president. Her hubris has thrown her into a nightmare: 85 years old, perilously prone to injury and illness, currently suffering cracked ribs and recovering from having a fifth of her left lung surgically removed. Not able to stop working for at least two more years.... it's just a nightmare for her. For this to be the way anyone spends their last years on the planet....... dang.

**** that noise, man. This woman is a deciding voice of what's legal in our country and what the government can do. I get into it all the time about this with my wife. "she's still a person." **** that. If she were retired I'd feel terrible for her and her family, but as long as she clings to one of the highest positions of power in our country I'll be rooting for her to get hit by a bus.

[CCWFacts]

Everyone should realize that the Dems are making serious proposals to pack SCOTUS the next time they win. They can add a dozen more justices if they want to. They will all be racial socialists. The Democrats are swiftly becoming the ANC.

[wireless]

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

**** that noise, man. This woman is a deciding voice of what's legal in our country and what the government can do. I get into it all the time about this with my wife. "she's still a person." **** that. If she were retired I'd feel terrible for her and her family, but as long as she clings to one of the highest positions of power in our country I'll be rooting for her to get hit by a bus.

Yup, I agree. I used to be "take the high road" type of person on these issues, because I lived under the false belief that dignity is something we still possess at a collective level, but obviously that's not true when we look at liberal behavior for the past ten years. Taking the high road in these type of unique situations (SCOTUS judge, not someone retired at home with her family dying) is what landed us with complete failures during 2008 and 2012.

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by wireless

Yup, I agree. I used to be "take the high road" type of person on these issues, because I lived under the false belief that dignity is something we still possess at a collective level, but obviously that's not true when we look at liberal behavior for the past ten years. Taking the high road in these type of unique situations (SCOTUS judge, not someone retired at home with her family dying) is what landed us with complete failures during 2008 and 2012.

I always try to take the high road when someone isn't in office. Again, when someone has power over you there is no high road.

[Paladin]

I wonder if everyone realizing RBG doesn't have long, but she'll hang on as long as she can will mean that Thomas will announce his retirement late January. He'll stay on the Court to finish all the cases they hear this term and Trump can easily get his replacement approved by the Senate by the time Thomas actually leaves the Court. That way this coming summer the docket is clear, so to speak, for RBG to retire and for hearings re. her Trump replacement.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by abinsinia

I think she was on chemo prior the breaking her ribs. That's why she appeared so tired on some of her public appearances. Her broken ribs may have been because of the chemo. When the chemo didn't work out, they decided to perform the surgery.

I'm sure we have some cancer survivors , does chemo come first or last?

Depends.

Chemo first to try to shrink tumors.

Chemo after surgery to try to kill off any cancerous cells which may be present outside of the tumors. Sometimes, radiation is used for this.

[pgg]

Just some food for thought -

Here's RBG delivering a eulogy for Justice Scalia. They were colleagues who respected each other, and by all accounts genuine friends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jb_2GgE564A

[wireless]

Originally Posted by Paladin

I wonder if everyone realizing RBG doesn't have long, but she'll hang on as long as she can will mean that Thomas will announce his retirement late January. He'll stay on the Court to finish all the cases they hear this term and Trump can easily get his replacement approved by the Senate by the time Thomas actually leaves the Court. That way this coming summer the docket is clear, so to speak, for RBG to retire and for hearings re. her Trump replacement.

I really hope so.

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by wireless

I really hope so.

She's not gonna retire. They'll find her *** dead in her office chair before she retires under Trump.

[Cokebottle]

Somewhat ironic.
It was reported that she did not retire under Obama because she did not feel that he deserved a 3rd appointment.
She gambled on a Hillary win and lost.
She just may have given Trump a 3rd appointment.

[Dvrjon]

Having defeated cancer twice in my life, and recently having supported my wife through her victory over breast cancer, I have come to the opinion that a number of you need to take a time out.

Most of you missed the essential elements of the concept that one can oppose ideas without opposing people. As Justice Scalia said, "Some very good people have some very bad ideas."

I suspect that covers a number of you.

Rail against RGB's judicial opinions, but have a bit of compassion over the impact of cancer striking an individual 3 times. (Colorectal; Pancreatic: Lung)

At the same time, realize what a tough old bird she is. Pancreatic cancer is the third deadliest cancer in America, with as few as 8% of patients surviving five years after diagnosis, and 71% of those diagnosed given a life expectancy of less than one year to live.

She's going on ten! I doubt this development is anything more than a speed bump for her.

However, I hope she can set her personal hubris aside and realize that the rest of her life should have more value than hoping the President doesn't get re-elected.

And NO, no one "deserves" cancer.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

And NO, no one "deserves" cancer.

Not sure about that when I remember that she and her ilk have condemned TENS OF MILLIONS of unborn babies to saline injection abortions, D&C (dilation and cutterage) abortions (literally butchering them alive in the womb), and D&E (dilation & extraction) abortions (aka "brain suction" abortions).

[Cokebottle]

Originally Posted by Paladin

and D&E (dilation & extraction) abortions (aka "brain suction" abortions).

Apparently, most of those survived and vote.

[pgg]

It's getting to the point where I have trouble telling the difference between the hate and vitriol coming from their side, or our side.

Some of you guys make it hard to be a single issue 2A voter.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Not sure about that when I remember that she and her ilk have condemned TENS OF MILLIONS of unborn babies to saline injection abortions, D&C (dilation and cutterage) abortions (literally butchering them alive in the womb), and D&E (dilation & extraction) abortions (aka "brain suction" abortions).

I seem to remember that decision took place 20 years before her ascension to the Court, and later decisions took more than her vote.

But, thanks. Having been attacked by cancer, I will, in the future, remember your compassion. I'm also overjoyed to know that you think my wife should also have gotten cancer. I shall attempt to be as supportive of your challenges in life.

Again, good people can have bad ideas. I see you've joined that club.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

I seem to remember that decision took place 20 years before her ascension to the Court, and later decisions took more than her vote.

Please quote where I claimed RBG was solely responsible for legalized abortion? There are a LOT of people with innocent babies' blood on their hands, including EVERY person who's been a member of the evil organization known as the Democratic Party when they've had a pro-abortion and/or pro-homosexuality Party platform.

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

But, thanks. Having been attacked by cancer, I will, in the future, remember your compassion. I'm also overjoyed to know that you think my wife should also have gotten cancer.

Guess what? I believe you & your wife should burn in hell for all of eternity -- just like every other sinner (i.e., ANY human who has EVER violated ANY of God's laws in thought, word or deed), and that INCLUDES ME! How's that for "compassion"??? Or do you want me to pat your hand and say, "There, there. You poor dear. I'm sooo sorry to hear you've got cancer" all the while knowing you have not come to a saving faith in Christ? Which is truly compassionate? Which is Biblical? Which will God call ME to account for?

I believe your & your wife's ONLY hope -- like mine -- is in a saving FAITH IN THE DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST as payment for YOUR SINS.

If you die outside of Christ, I'll feel FAR MORE sorry for you than you'd EVER feel sorry for me at my death, because I know that you have a future and what your future holds and it is far worse than mere physical death, annihilation, non-existence....

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

I shall attempt to be as supportive of your challenges in life.

God says He raised Christ from the dead, not to encourage us, to give us hope of the resurrection and life eternal, but rather as a sign of the coming Judgment for violating God's Laws. (Acts 17:31) I believe in God the Father who calls ALL MEN EVERYWHERE to REPENTANCE, not a "God the Mother" who just wants her children to be happy....

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

Again, good people can have bad ideas. I see you've joined that club.

And you've got a bad theology, if any. God did not Judge & Punish sin in the Garden, but the persons known as Adam, Eve and the Serpent. And it's because of His punishment upon them that you & your wife got cancer and will eventually DIE, just like me (barring Christ' Second Coming). God does not condemn sin to hell, but sinners. But you, like most people, do NOT want to believe in personal responsibility, accountability and judgment before a LIVING & JUST GOD. Nope. You sound like you want to believe that good people do bad things unintentionally, by mistake, that the Golden State Killer and Nicholas Cruz are "victims" of circumstances, bad homes, or "disadvantaged environments," or whatever and need compassion and understanding, and second chances ... the very claims Adam & Eve made in their defense and God rejected.

If you want to discuss this further, feel free to start a thread on it in the "Discussions of Faith" forum and PM the link to me.

ETA: since some CGNers hate has blinded them to what I wrote above, I've added some bolding for emphasis

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Please quote where I claimed RBG was solely responsible for legalized abortion? There are a LOT of people with innocent babies' blood on their hands, including EVERY person who's been a member of the evil organization known as the Democratic Party when they've had a pro-abortion and/or pro-homosexuality Party platform.

Guess what? I believe you & your wife should burn in hell for all of eternity -- just like every other sinner (i.e., ANY human who has EVER violated ANY of God's laws in thought, word or deed), and that INCLUDES ME! How's that for "compassion"??? Or do you want me to pat your hand and say, "There, there. You poor dear. I'm sooo sorry to hear you've got cancer" all the while knowing you have not come to a saving faith in Christ? Which is truly compassionate? Which is Biblical? Which will God call ME to account for?

I believe your & your wife's ONLY hope -- like mine -- is in a saving FAITH IN THE DEATH OF JESUS CHRIST as payment for YOUR SINS.

If you die outside of Christ, I'll feel FAR MORE sorry for you than you'd EVER feel sorry for me at my death, because I know that you have a future and what your future holds and it is far worse than mere physical death, annihilation, non-existence....

God says He raised Christ from the dead, not to encourage us, to give us hope of the resurrection and life eternal, but rather as a sign of the coming Judgment for violating God's Laws. (Acts 17:31) I believe in God the Father who calls ALL MEN EVERYWHERE to REPENTANCE, not a "God the Mother" who just wants her children to be happy....

And you've got a bad theology, if any. God did not Judge & Punish sin in the Garden, but the persons known as Adam, Eve and the Serpent. And it's because of His punishment upon them that you & your wife got cancer and will eventually DIE, just like me (barring Christ' Second Coming). God does not condemn sin to hell, but sinners. But you, like most people, do NOT want to believe in personal responsibility, accountability and judgment before a LIVING & JUST GOD. Nope. You sound like you want to believe that good people do bad things unintentionally, by mistake, that the Golden State Killer and Nicholas Cruz are "victims" of circumstances, bad homes, or "disadvantaged environments," or whatever and need compassion and understanding, and second chances ... the very claims Adam & Eve made in their defense and God rejected.

If you want to discuss this further, feel free to start a thread on it in the "Discussions of Faith" forum and PM the link to me.

And here I was, worried calguns had lost all its self-righteous and preachy users!

To the dude about cancer. I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. I'm glad you two came out the other side of it.

***hats like this are the reason so many normal people abandoned this site and why it's so difficult to bring in new gun owners. Until the site does something about them it will be difficult to grow this community. Although I have been surprised at them going after some of the mean-spirited people on here and actually banning them. It's been nice to see them actually making an effort to clean this place up.

[Full Clip]

Originally Posted by Cokebottle

Somewhat ironic.
It was reported that she did not retire under Obama because she did not feel that he deserved a 3rd appointment.
She gambled on a Hillary win and lost.
She just may have given Trump a 3rd appointment.

Sweet, sweet irony...

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[pgg]

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

***hats like this are the reason so many normal people abandoned this site and why it's so difficult to bring in new gun owners.

I think I'm going to go too.

I've been a single issue pro-2A voter since 2008 but the last couple years have been eye opening. It's really been making me question whether or not I want to be associated at all with the people on our side.

I moved out of California several years ago, so maybe there isn't a place for me on calguns.net anyway. I've been checking in to this forum from time to time because it has been one of the better 2A legal forums anywhere.

But the hostility, self righteous arrogance, and outright hatred is too much. Now we've got a self-professed "Christian" and elder member of this forum smugly expressing satisfaction that a judge has cancer. The fact that it doesn't even surprise me any more just underscores how normal it's become for people on our side to behave this way.


Lots of thought, but I have an answer today.

I won't vote Republican any more merely for the sake of the 2nd Amendment.

I think being a single-issue pro 2A voter was the right decision the last 10 years, but not any more.

I hope the judicial gains of the last two years and what's left of President Trump's term will be enough to preserve our 2A rights. I think a Democratic sweep of the Presidency, House, and Senate are a near certainty in 2020. And I'll be honest - after seeing what Trump's Republican party has become, I think I'll be OK with that. I certainly won't be donating any more time or money to support Republicans and oppose Democrats, the way I have the last 10 years.

I wish you all the best.

[510rick]

Well this thread took a nasty turn !!!

[dogrunner]

Originally Posted by Cokebottle

Apparently, most of those survived and vote.

Most succinct observation hereon!!!!

[tenemae]

Originally Posted by pgg

I won't vote Republican any more merely for the sake of the 2nd Amendment.

I think being a single-issue pro 2A voter was the right decision the last 10 years, but not any more.

Voting to have republicans appoint supreme court justices may be a "single-issue" cause, but that cause isn't pro-2A, it's pro-constution. Democrats and leftists exclusively produce activist judges who legislate by fiat. Conservatives and right-wingers do a far better job protecting the bill of rights. It's not just about guns. It's about staving off hate-speech laws, knee-capping socialized medicine, and promoting a more freedom-oriented market of economy and ideas.
I aligned with the Rs in 2016 and I'll never apologize for that, because now we have Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. I'll continue to align with the Rs until a better option presents itself. Because the alternative is digging the US an early grave- and this ship doesn't have any lifeboats, man.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by Paladin

And you've got a bad theology, if any. ....But you, like most people, do NOT want to believe in personal responsibility, accountability and judgment before a LIVING & JUST GOD. Nope. You sound like you want to believe that good people do bad things...

If you want to discuss this further, feel free to start a thread on it in the "Discussions of Faith" forum and PM the link to me.

What is this assault?

You know nothing of me but condemn me. You know nothing of my wife, yet condemn her.

I have no reason to discuss theology with you, simply because I don’t spend a lot of energy on folks who demonstrate an inability to understand a quick passage:

Matthew 7:
[1] Judge not, that ye be not judged.
[2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

If DOJ reads these threads, then so does God.
Good luck getting a pass on that during the Second Coming.

I wish you the best; you will need it.

Oh, and lest we both forget: Merry Christmas!

[Paladin]

Rather than WASTE MY TIME responding to the posts above, I'll just repeat myself:

Originally Posted by Paladin

If you want to discuss this further, feel free to start a thread on it in the "Discussions of Faith" forum and PM the link to me.

I'm MORE THAN WILLING to debate Scripture with you in re. to what I've posted, and in case I didn't make myself clear, this is an OPEN INVITATION to ANYONE who wants to discuss this topic -- which is OFF TOPIC -- further on the "Discussions of Faith" forum. Just start a new thread over there and PM a link of it to me. This includes Dantedamean, pgg, as well as Dvrjon.

Here's the link to the "Discussions of Faith" forum:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...play.php?f=355

[Paladin]

From The Atlantic:

Pulmonary nodules are indeed extremely common, and most are benign. To find two malignant nodules in a person who smokes would not be especially surprising. However, if you have two separate malignant nodules in your lung and you do not smoke, doctors worry that this means they represent metastatic disease from a cancer somewhere else.

This is especially true if the patient has a history of cancer, as Ginsburg does. She had early-stage colon and pancreatic cancers removed in 1999 and 2009, respectively.

Lung nodules are generally removed when they are deemed suspicious for malignancy, meaning they either showed signs of growth or were not seen on prior oncologic screening. “Growing pulmonary nodules can be primary lung cancers, and synchronous ones do appear,” says Howard Forman, a radiologist and professor at Yale. “But in a patient with two primary known malignancies, we would need to know the pathology of the nodules before believing she is cured.”

The pathology report can tell us if the malignant cells are lung cancer—meaning a rare case of two simultaneous new lung cancers in a nonsmoker—or if they represent a recurrence of metastatic colon or pancreatic cancer, or if they are of some other origin. If this is the case, it would raise concern that although current scans showed no evidence of metastatic disease elsewhere, there could be yet-undetectable cancer cells already seeded in Ginsburg’s body.

<snip>

“It all depends on the pathology report,” says the pathologist Anirban Maitra, the scientific director of the Ahmed Center for Pancreatic Cancer Research at MD Anderson Cancer Center. “Cancer in the lung is not the same as primary lung cancer, especially in a person with a history of colon and pancreatic cancer. Right now it’s best for the medical community to wait for more details.”

“They might need to run special stains to distinguish lung versus colon versus pancreatic,” Maitra adds. “That could take a couple days and may or may not be conclusive.”

In any case, expect that Ginsburg will be monitored closely in coming years for metastatic disease. In the immediate term, recovery from a lobectomy can be a significant undertaking for an 85-year-old, and that is indeed the relevant health issue for the foreseeable future.

From: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...cancer/578869/

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Rather than WASTE MY TIME responding to the posts above, I'll just repeat myself: I'm MORE THAN WILLING to debate Scripture with you in re. to what I've posted, and in case I didn't make myself clear, this is an OPEN INVITATION to ANYONE who wants to discuss this topic -- which is OFF TOPIC -- further on the "Discussions of Faith" forum. Just start a new thread over there and PM a link of it to me. This includes Dantedamean, pgg, as well as Dvrjon.

Here's the link to the "Discussions of Faith" forum:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...play.php?f=355

Keep the wacado **** to that section of the site and there wouldn't be an issue. As you said, it's off topic. Nevermind the fact you're being a dick about it and pushing normal people out. And yes, implication being you're absolutely NOT normal.

[Kestryll]

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

And here I was, worried calguns had lost all its self-righteous and preachy users!

To the dude about cancer. I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. I'm glad you two came out the other side of it.

***hats like this are the reason so many normal people abandoned this site and why it's so difficult to bring in new gun owners. Until the site does something about them it will be difficult to grow this community. Although I have been surprised at them going after some of the mean-spirited people on here and actually banning them. It's been nice to see them actually making an effort to clean this place up.

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

Keep the wacado **** to that section of the site and there wouldn't be an issue. As you said, it's off topic. Nevermind the fact you're being a dick about it and pushing normal people out. And yes, implication being you're absolutely NOT normal.

Just to make sure I've got this straight.

You want his post removed and him banned for having and posting an opinion and point of view you do not share.

But you're okay with you posting insults, name calling and mocking his, and mine by the way, faith as 'wacado ****' and 'not normal'.

Am I reading this correctly?

[nick]

Originally Posted by Paladin

I wonder if everyone realizing RBG doesn't have long, but she'll hang on as long as she can will mean that Thomas will announce his retirement late January. He'll stay on the Court to finish all the cases they hear this term and Trump can easily get his replacement approved by the Senate by the time Thomas actually leaves the Court. That way this coming summer the docket is clear, so to speak, for RBG to retire and for hearings re. her Trump replacement.

I wouldn't be so sure...

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by Kestryll

Just to make sure I've got this straight.

You want his post removed and him banned for having and posting an opinion and point of view you do not share.

But you're okay with you posting insults, name calling and mocking his, and mine by the way, faith as 'wacado ****' and 'not normal'.

Am I reading this correctly?

You get what you give, man. You can't tell me him spouting that crap is doing your site any favors. He told a self-proclaimed cancer survivor he deserves to burn in hell. Yeah, that's wacado ****, not an opinion.

I also never said anything about his faith, just him lashing out at anther member. I'm guessing you're fine with his vitriol though, since you're coming after me not him. Your sites community sucks and hurts gun owners as a whole.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by nick

I wouldn't be so sure...

LOL! That is sooo true and I've seen it sooo many times in real life. Like I've posted previously, some gals like RGB are like the Eveready Bunny. They're hunched over like Yoda, but they just keep going, and going ....

I came back to post this encouragement from my just previous post:

The pathology report can tell us if the malignant cells are lung cancer—meaning a rare case of two simultaneous new lung cancers in a nonsmoker—or if they represent a recurrence of metastatic colon or pancreatic cancer, or if they are of some other origin. If this is the case, it would raise concern that although current scans showed no evidence of metastatic disease elsewhere, there could be yet-undetectable cancer cells already seeded in Ginsburg’s body.

The odds that this will just blow over is "rare." I'm HAPPY, not for her illness, but because she may have to retire in the near future and we may get yet another pro-2nd A RKBA justice on the Court (this is important since we're not too confident in CJ Roberts).

We should know what sort of cancer it is before New Years, maybe even before Christmas. If this is some other CA and she has to get chemo, that will likely knock her to her knees -- she'll have to retire. In this case, I hope Trump gets her replacement on the Court before Tax Day and that Thomas retires at the end of this term, so Trump can get his replacement on the Court by the start of the next term in the fall.

FWIW, not only am I against her (and the other "liberals") because of abortion, but also (and primarily for CGNers), because almost 1/2 of the US population that live in the 8 remaining non-SI states and many there have been mugged, paralyzed, put into comas or Persistent Veg. States, died, raped, sodomized -- you name it -- because the Leftists on the Court and around our nation are denying us our RKBA for self defense.

[Kestryll]

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

You get what you give, man. You can't tell me him spouting that crap is doing your site any favors. He told a self-proclaimed cancer survivor he deserves to burn in hell. Yeah, that's wacado ****, not an opinion.
Again, to clarify.
'You get what you give'; so as long as you're offended by his opinions and views it's okay to break the rules and expect that a bias be displayed to fit your opinions and views.

I also never said anything about his faith, just him lashing out at anther member. I'm guessing you're fine with his vitriol though, since you're coming after me not him.
Actually, you did and we both know it so trying to walk it back is kind of silly.

What I am fine with is the same thing I've been fine with for 12-16 years, members being free to hold and express whatever opinions and views they wish provided they do so in a manner that is within the rules and civil.
And yes, that means having to see views I disagree with, dislike and even find offensive but as long as they are presented within the rules that's the cost of allowing people to have their own views and opinions.


Your sites community sucks and hurts gun owners as a whole.

No one forces you to log on, you can always log out and delete your bookmark.

You may feel that allowing members to have and express their own views and opinions 'hurts gun owners as a whole' but we're going to have to just disagree.

A couple of amusing points just for me if nothing else.
Any minute now you'll probably see some people post about how horrible it is that we really don't allow differing views and complaining that it's too strict here as opposed to your complaint that it's too open.

Also, while you're voicing you're complaint and telling us that this community 'sucks' and such, you're still here, still posting and not banned or limited.

Odd, isn't it?

[Dantedamean]

Originally Posted by Kestryll

No one forces you to log on, you can always log out and delete your bookmark.

You may feel that allowing members to have and express their own views and opinions 'hurts gun owners as a whole' but we're going to have to just disagree.

A couple of amusing points just for me if nothing else.
Any minute now you'll probably see some people post about how horrible it is that we really don't allow differing views and complaining that it's too strict here as opposed to your complaint that it's too open.

Also, while you're voicing you're complaint and telling us that this community 'sucks' and such, you're still here, still posting and not banned or limited.

Odd, isn't it?

So now I'm violating the rules by expressing my opinion but he's not by expressing his? Cute.

I did abandon this cesspool. I pop back in from time to time because it's difficult to find good consolidated info on cases and political movements in the 2A world. If it wasn't for that this place would have been a barren wasteland a long time ago. I figured I'd slum it for a while so that guys like the dude he already pushed out doesn't think you people represent all of gun owners.

I'm not walking anything back. The fact he's using his faith, and yours apparently, to attack other users and you're more upset at me for calling him out on it just shows youre not this white knight of fairness.

Sure by your simple graces I am not banned, whoopy-doo. You didn't ban me so you could make a point that you didn't ban me. Furthermore, if you ban me you should ban him, if you're truly as fair as you prop yourself up to be. His comment also violated the rules.

Edit: you know what. My life is already too stressful without you nut jobs in it. Congrats, you win. You lose another gun owner. Again.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

I'm not walking anything back. The fact he's using his faith, and yours apparently, to attack other users and you're more upset at me for calling him out on it just shows youre not this white knight of fairness.

As the one who was attacked, I can assure you his opinion of me is none of my business. But, his response tells us much about the individual. Nevertheless, it's not our (nor anyone else's) place to pass judgement. That will be taken care of in proper time by a significantly higher authority than a keyboard proselytizer.

Stay or go, but do so because you want to, not because of the actions of others.

And, again, as I fear we are forgetting....Merry Christmas, to All.

[bubbapug1]

Originally Posted by Cokebottle

Apparently, most of those survived and vote.

and serve in congress

[tenemae]

Originally Posted by Dantedamean

So now I'm violating the rules by expressing my opinion but he's not by expressing his? Cute.

My eyesight must be going. I can't find where Kes said that anywhere.

[ja308]

Originally Posted by pgg

I think I'm going to go too.

I've been a single issue pro-2A voter since 2008 but the last couple years have been eye opening. It's really been making me question whether or not I want to be associated at all with the people on our side.

I moved out of California several years ago, so maybe there isn't a place for me on calguns.net anyway. I've been checking in to this forum from time to time because it has been one of the better 2A legal forums anywhere.

But the hostility, self righteous arrogance, and outright hatred is too much. Now we've got a self-professed "Christian" and elder member of this forum smugly expressing satisfaction that a judge has cancer. The fact that it doesn't even surprise me any more just underscores how normal it's become for people on our side to behave this way.


Lots of thought, but I have an answer today.

I won't vote Republican any more merely for the sake of the 2nd Amendment.

I think being a single-issue pro 2A voter was the right decision the last 10 years, but not any more.

I hope the judicial gains of the last two years and what's left of President Trump's term will be enough to preserve our 2A rights. I think a Democratic sweep of the Presidency, House, and Senate are a near certainty in 2020. And I'll be honest - after seeing what Trump's Republican party has become, I think I'll be OK with that. I certainly won't be donating any more time or money to support Republicans and oppose Democrats, the way I have the last 10 years.

I wish you all the best.

You have no problem being associated with all the people on their side ? Gun grabbers, open borders, billionaires in private jets talking about climate change caused by oil, late term abortions on demand, advocating UN totalitarian agenda!

Thinking your a dem trolling us or a big media type who lives by TV and New York Times.

Im betting a big gun rights guy like you is not and was never an NRA member.

BTW we cal gunners want to welcome you back to BLUE STATE california, as to paraphrase Will Rogers the collective IQ will go up in both places !

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From my previous post (#267 above):

“They might need to run special stains to distinguish lung versus colon versus pancreatic,” Maitra adds. “That could take a couple days and may or may not be conclusive.”

From: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...cancer/578869/

"This is just luck" that the growths were found through those rib X-rays because accidentally discovered lung tumors tend to be early-stage when surgery works best, said Dr. Giuseppe Giaccone, an oncologist at Georgetown University's Lombardi Comprehensive Cancer Center.

Dr. John Lazar, director of thoracic robotic surgery at MedStar Washington Hospital Center, said ...

"If she doesn't need anything but the surgery, it is a very good sign," Lazar said.

Both doctors said patients typically spend three days or four days in the hospital after this type of operation.

From: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/res...ealth-woes.amp

Let's be conservative (i.e., assuming things taking longer rather than shorter): the biopsy final results should take "a couple of days." Let's skip surgery day and weekend. That's Monday, Tues off for Christmas, and all day Wed, with a Court announcement *possible* on Thur.

At the same time RBG is in the hospital recovering from surgery for "three or four days." Let's assume that does't include surgery day, Fri, so, Sat, Sun, Mon and Tues. Let's give her a freebie of Wed too, so discharged Thurs and Court announcement possible Fri.

Bottom line: by the end of this week, RBG should -- and we may, if they tell us -- know her prognosis.

If she needs chemo and/or radiation, all bets are off. The game has changed.

If she doesn't need chemo and/or radiation because it is a "rare" case of 2 spontaneous lung CA nodules in a non-smoker, then the issue is how her body (e.g., heart) reacts to her having lost ~10% of her lung volume.

ETA: the pro-RBG propagandists keep pushing her exercise routine. They've posted about it yet once again, yesterday evening just before 7pm, saying she's asked when she can resume it after lung surgery. https://people.com/politics/ruth-bad...r-surgery/amp/ Since they brought it up, let's take a critical look at it. The routine proper starts ~3:42 into the 6:42 video. It ends at 6:15 Turn off the volume to ignore Colbert's distractions and just focus on her movements, range of motion, what she does (and does not do) and how much or little her trainer is assisting her. I've read several times about all the pushups she can do. Well, you'll see what she does at 5:38 -- those don't qualify as pushups to me! Don't get me wrong: it's great what she can do at her age, and most people of most ages don't even exercise. But don't be discouraged by the Leftists' propaganda about her either. See for yourself.

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The biopsy will definitely tell us a lot. We will know the stage and origin of her cancer. It's possible there's cancer else where that's in very early stages and it hasn't showed up on her body scan. If her cancer is not lung cells and originated from a different place the prognosis looks grim. I agree, radiation or chemo means all bets are off. Liberals pushing the workout routine are in major denial. This diagnosis is huge at 85. Last time she survived cancer was at 76, and our bodies are way more resilient at that age. Mid 80's people start to get frail and they can only take so much.

The real question is, will she last 9 months or 3 years? I highly doubt she will make it to a Trump 2nd term, but at this point I don't have my hopes up about him winning re-election. A 6-3 majority on the court is huge and would change the direction of our slow march towards socialism or at least slow it down considerably.

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Originally Posted by Kokopelli

Just for selecting judges, especially SCOTUS, is why I voted for Trump. If the Senate backs his nominations, it's all worth it.

My thoughts exactly.
On a side note, some doctor I'm sure has to physically examine her, likely naked at some point, the thought of which scares me to a nauseating illness.