LE Agency Mandatory vaccination

[Devilmonkey89]

Hi Calguns LE, can your employers mandate/force you to get vaccinated as a term to remain employed with said agency?

Something tells me they can not but does anyone have any insight?

*Mods if this belongs in another area of Calguns please move as appropriate.

[Hateca]

Were I use to work no, they would offer hepatitis and all those type of things but it wasn’t mandatory. I retired in 2008 so who knows now but normally based on MOU’s and liability they would be hard pressed to require it.

[SoldierLife7]

The short answer; yes.

An employer can make a vaccination a requirement if you want to continue working there.

[gbullock32]

I work for the CDCR, and yes they can mandate it as a condition of employment. If you can offer a document from your doctor to exempt you (allergy issues as example) or provide proof of religious exemption (not sure how that one works) you can get around it though.

[effbeeeye]

My officers association sent out a letter saying that we could not be forced to take it. I haven't heard anything from our agency yet.

[caliprep]

Originally Posted by Devilmonkey89

Hi Calguns LE, can your employers mandate/force you to get vaccinated as a term to remain employed with said agency?

Something tells me they can not but does anyone have any insight?

*Mods if this belongs in another area of Calguns please move as appropriate.

This ain't the military. Civilian agencies can't have you do sh*t without your consent, especially when it comes to vaccinations.

[eta34]

Originally Posted by caliprep

This ain't the military. Civilian agencies can't have you do sh*t without your consent, especially when it comes to vaccinations.

Huh? LEO agencies can, and do, make all kinds of demands upon employees as conditions of employment. An employee's refusal to comply will result in termination.

[eviioiive]

Optional -about half are getting it and half aren’t... can’t fire half of us

[HibikiR]

Originally Posted by eviioiive

Optional -about half are getting it and half aren’t... can’t fire half of us

It's a game of chicken and who knows which side will blink first. Sure people can talk a good game, but that might be all it is: talk.

[esy]

My department said it's voluntary.

I'm definitely NOT getting it. I was already sick a while back and tested positive for it. Even if I didn't get it, I'd risk catching it than getting the vaccination.

[caliprep]

Originally Posted by eta34

Huh? LEO agencies can, and do, make all kinds of demands upon employees as conditions of employment. An employee's refusal to comply will result in termination.

Okay, good luck with that. I was an LEO for this state, and those types of "demands," would hit a brick wall with the union.

Guess what we didn't have in the military? A union, much less the ability to walk away and find another career.

[caliprep]

Originally Posted by eviioiive

Optional -about half are getting it and half aren’t... can’t fire half of us

exactly.

[Milsurp1]

If I was really interested in the question, I’d also research whether the FDA might object to a mandatory covid vaccination when the vaccine is only approved on an emergency basis presently.

[DEPUTYBILL]

I have read several opinions on this. Not sure what a court might decide.
What I read is because it has only been allowed on an emergency basis by the FDA, it would be hard to make it mandatory.

[Milsurp1]

The Army has told DoD civilians that because the vaccine is only approved on an emergency basis the Army cannot compel the civilian employees, even non-unionized ones, to take it.

[GizmoSD]

Our sheriff just told the department that he strongly encourages people to get it, but it’s voluntary.

Another point to consider, if you order it, then any side effects or issues with it become workers comp issues.

[glockhead]

It’s voluntary in my department but the way things are going, we’ll be the last after hospital workers and fire.

[Lonestargrizzly]

Federal DOJ vaccination is optional for now.
Seems like theyre gunna vaccinate the inmates before staff.
They only do covid checks on inmates even for those of us that work covid units regularly.
Covid positive = 2 weeks off paid though so all the staff wants covid lol.

[glockhead]

Faauukk. I was just exposed a few days ago. I got tested this morning. No symptoms so far and I should get my results tomorrow. The department doctor said my exposure was limited and I don’t have to self quarantine. I may have two weeks off coming.

[GizmoSD]

I’ve been exposed a handful of times. One positive guy sneezed on me. You’re fine. Years of dealing with hep, mrsa, hiv, tb, etc...screw it. Give me some COVID.

[Grobie]

Currently, it is voluntary, but the memo we received is basically making us feel obligated to take the vaccine. I caught it in September and it messed me up pretty bad. My lungs are still trashed from it and I get chest pains pretty often I've never had pre-covid. With that said, I refused the vaccine.

[Gundiver]

Good man

[glockhead]

Well the good news is I tested negative. Thanks GizmoSD for sharing your experience. I’m rethinking I will probably take the vaccine when offered. My parents are at a high risk because of their age.

[tgriffin]

Optional

[OldSchool]

Optional for Fed LEOs.

However, I would imagine that there would be job training/assignments that you would no longer eligible for.

The bigger question is what you might be limited from if you don't vaccinate:
- can't grocery shop
- can't take any form of mass transit (planes?)
- can't enter school grounds
- can't enter public buildings

I wouldn't put it past this state.

[Devilock04]

My agency is optional so far. Most of the guys I work with aren’t getting it. We all pretty much don’t want to be a guinea pig.

Once it’s readily available, I can see the airlines requiring proof of vaccination to fly though, in addition to other countries requiring travelers to have had it.

[caliprep]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Optional for Fed LEOs.

However, I would imagine that there would be job training/assignments that you would no longer eligible for.

The bigger question is what you might be limited from if you don't vaccinate:
- can't grocery shop
- can't take any form of mass transit (planes?)
- can't enter school grounds
- can't enter public buildings

I wouldn't put it past this state.

Straight totalitarian 1984 world. Hope it does not get to that...EVER.

[five.five-six]

Originally Posted by eviioiive

Optional -about half are getting it and half aren’t... can’t fire half of us

Sure can, and replace you with 19-year old straight out of college ethnically and sexually perversion diverse social workers.


5 years ago, would you have believed me if I told you they would decriminalize shoplifting? Yet here we are, modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.