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Vote by mail voter fraud
Vote by mail is just the latest step by Democrats to corrupt our elections, seize power, and destroy the Constitution.
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anyone with an average IQ can figure that one out but the problem is no one wants to think about the hard decisions required to reverse this vote hijacking. That is what happened to start the civil war. They used majority rule as the excuse while refusing to defend minority rights.
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This is how leftists take over the country. Ballot harvesting was the first step. Mail in voting and it's not absentee voting when one is not able to vote in person or those who are disabled and are unable to vote in person they are not the problem. This is how they get the lazy millennial generation to actually vote and they will by majority vote leftist. Yes I used leftist a lot as it is warranted. These are not liberals. A liberal today is too much left of center. Leftists are the extremists who are making the case and those who are sucking it up are ones who do not see the problem nor the future implications it has. Leftists are using the pandemic to push this which shouldn't come to anyone's surprise.
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I worked nearly two dozen elections as a pollworker, mainly as a precinct inspector. Based on what I was able to observe, I think that absentee voting is one of the biggest threats to the security of elections. Absentee voting should require confirming that someone is in fact a registered voter (vetting), very compelling and good cause to get one (mariner, diplomat, soldier, some sort of disease or condition that literally prevents in-person voting, etc.), and should have considerable security measures to ensure that the person voting is actually the voter, and which allows the voter to verify that their vote was counted, and counted correctly, for which they have proof. Absentee voter status should require frequent renewal, and if you cannot maintain justification, or cannot prove you are alive and a registered voter, status eliminated.
I recall during the 2012 election that we had a large van come by the neighborhood precinct center. Several women got out of the back, each carrying a large stack of absentee ballots; easily dozens per woman. They came to my table first, and one said that she was turning in her ballot and her husband's ballot, and just happened to have all of these other ones to turn in as well. I took a look and every single envelope was filled in with the same handwriting, and the signatures looked like they were all done by the same person as well. I then noticed that none of them had the third party authorization section filled out, which permitted be to reject them all. They then went from table to table in the voting center, trying to turn them in, and I had to go to each one to explain why this was suspicious and why they should be rejected, until they had exhausted all of the precincts and left with their ballots. Every precinct was ready to blindly accept them all because "the voting never stops." I'm sure whatever place they went to next gladly accepted them. In-person fraud and tampering at the polls is much more difficult and requires a lot more manpower per votes manipulated. Still, I've seen evidence of that, too. On more than one occasion I've had a person ask how so-and-so could have signed the roster, because that person was their neighbor, and he's been dead for several years, or because he moved away years ago and someone else lives at that address, and such. And of course, you have the classic "finding" of ballot boxes in Democratic strongholds (in warehouses, trunks of cars, or wherever) that just happen to be overwhelmingly favorable to Democrats (even above and beyond the rest of the vote) and is just enough to tip the scales towards the Democrat, like what pushed Evers over the top to beat Walker in Wisconsin. From what I can tell, the potential for this with absentee ballots is all the greater since there is generally way less security involved with collections, and far more room for tampering. I mean, how do you really know how many ballots came in? You have to trust whatever people say the count is. Eliminating most absentee balloting and early voting would inconvenience a lot of people, but you know what, ballot security is way more important then an individual's personal convenience. |
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^^^^As another guy recently said, if illegal aliens were mostly Republicans the Democrats would be quick to close the borders and cut aid to them and their families. Same goes for the mail-in ballots. If it wasn’t to the Democrats advantage they wouldn’t be pushing so hard for it. Why don’t you think that they’re against showing ID when you vote now?
Maybe require a thumb print for any mail-in ballot? That at least would limit someone to voting just twice. |
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Now, now... I'm sure all 800,000,000 "registered" democrap voters in CA, will follow the law when mailing in their ballot this November.
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Also, when you don't look for Voter Fraud, it is hardly surprising when you never find any... When the Democrats claim "there is No Evidence" of Voter Fraud, its because they never seriously looked for it in the first place. Or they will cite some "Small Study" out of some Midwestern State in which some tiny percentage of Fraud was discovered and use this result to claim that this is typical of All results Nation Wide. The hypocrisy of the Democrats is on full display when they DEMAND we show multiple forms of ID in order to exercise our 2A Rights, but somehow asking for proper Identification before Voting is Racist ?! At this point in Time, if you support and vote for the Democrat Party, there is something seriously wrong with your cognitive abilities. Noble |
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In five years the only rights and privileges you will have are those you are willing to take, fight for, and die for even if it means going against family and friends who betrayed this country. As a veteran i swore an oath and I have not forgotten it since i now know what it is like to lose my country without firing a shot because my fellow citizens voted a man (Gavin Newsom) that I feel is a traitor into office and lost my rights because of it.
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I mean, I’m a novice at voter fraud but since those are the new rules of engagement, play to win.
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Like a circle jerk
Thread is like a circle Jerk for those wanting an excuse to interfere with people's right to vote. THERE IS NO SIGNIFICANT MAIL IN VOTER FRAUD. <<< This is true. NO ONE HAS ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT VOTER FRAUD<<< This is true. I Believe in the constitutional right for every eligible voter to have their vote counted. Do i support gun rights- As a Veteran- Damn right i do!!! What i support equally, is everyone's right to vote. Shouting at each other in a circle jerk, doesn't make it true. support the right to vote, or move to Russia!!!
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Because when you allow people to vote who are NOT eligible to vote, you directly damage the will of Legal Voters. Apparently you don't know the difference between Absentee Voting, and Cheat By Mail. Absentee Voting YOU request it, in the states that allow it, and if you meet that particular states criteria (military service, etc) they send the ballot to you at your current address. Cheat By Mail, which is what the Democrats are proposing, EVERYONE gets sent a Ballot Automatically, which means ballots will be going to the Wrong Addresses because people moved, some going to people who have died, etc. it will also strain the capacity of the USPS mail system to properly handle Cheat by Mail: USPS warned 46 states that it can't guarantee that all mail-in-ballots would arrive on time to be counted https://www.businessinsider.com/usps...ve-time-2020-8 Also, it will produce problems with excessive ballots being issued that anyone can fill out do to some states not keeping their voter registrations accurate and up to date: Five States Face Federal Lawsuit Over Inaccurate Voter Registrations Real Clear Politics. Jan-7-2020 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...s__142089.html "Based on data the federal Electoral Assistance Commission released last year, the new analysis indicates that a minimum of 2.5 million voter registrations are wrongly listed as valid. It suggests widespread lack of compliance with the National Voter Registration Act (NVRA), which requires states to remove people who have died, moved, or are otherwise ineligible to vote from the rolls. While having excess registrations isn’t proof of voter fraud, voter integrity advocates note that it does create opportunities for deception, such as allowing people to vote twice in different precincts or submit invalid absentee ballots" <<< END Quotes >>> LA County, for example, has admitted its voter registration exceeds the number of eligible voters, the numbers range from 112% to 144% depending on the sources / time. The point being, with Cheat By Mail, those 12% to 44%excessive ballots will be mailed out, with whoever stumbles across them being able to fill them out and send them in. Do you support that ? Plus, we already have examples of what a disaster Cheat by Mail is: New York’s Mail-Vote Disaster Almost a month after the election, nobody knows who won. Wall Street Journal Editorial Board. July 20, 2020 7:15 pm ET https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...er-11595286912 Signed, Sealed, Undelivered: Thousands Of Mail-In Ballots Rejected For Tardiness NPR. 7/13/2020 https://www.npr.org/2020/07/13/88975...-for-tardiness "Mail-in voting, which tens of millions of Americans are expected to use this November, is fraught with potential problems. Hundreds of thousands of ballots go uncounted each year because people make mistakes, such as forgetting to sign the form or sending it in too late. An NPR analysis has found that in the primary elections held so far this year, at least 65,000 absentee or mail-in ballots have been rejected because they arrived past the deadline, often through no fault of the voter." <<< END QUOTES >>> Claims of their being No Election fraud are untrue: Democratic Party official admits to stuffing ballot boxes in Philadelphia elections https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ffing-ballot-/ A Philadelphia elections judge and Democratic Party official pleaded guilty Thursday to stuffing ballot boxes in favor of Democratic candidates in elections in 2014, 2015 and 2016, while collecting thousands of dollars in cash to make the changes. Prosecutors hinted at an even broader conspiracy by an unnamed “political consultant” who charged his clients “consulting fees” and then used some of the money to pay off multiple Election Board officials. <<< END Quotes >>> And yes, I can cite more cases of fraud. When you aren't actively Looking for Fraud, its NO SURPRISE that you don't find any. And when Democrats say "oh, even if there is Voter fraud, its only maybe 1%".... Well, many elections are Won with 1% or less. The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity composed of a bipartisan panel, tried to investigate the matter, but was stymied by refusal of majority of states to cooperate, some claiming releasing certain data was illegal under their state law. With the lack of cooperation and lawsuits by ACLU etc. Trump decided to disband the commission in 2018. Look at what the Democrats are doing in Nevada with AB4 to enable Cheat by Mail if you don't believe me: (Democrats control both the Legislature and Governorship) Nevada Legislature AB4: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELI...Bill/7150/Text You have provisions that basically say legit postmark is NOT necessary for the ballot to be accepted (they hide this by saying "unclear" postmark) allowing ballots to be accepted UP TO THREE DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION ! which means ballots could be created AFTER the election date, which is, of course, Unconstitutional. It also plays games with polling numbers and locations, basically favoring Democrat areas, while shorting traditionally Republican areas, which violates rights under the Equal Protection Clause. Additional Info here: Trump campaign sues Nevada over bill expanding mail-in voting for general election The Nevada Independent. 8-4-2020 https://thenevadaindependent.com/art...neral-election If you can shop at your local stores you can certainly vote in person at your local polling area, or if previously registered Absentee go that route. Quit trying to equate in person voting as some sort of Death sentence because of Covid-19... Noble Last edited by Noble Cause; 08-17-2020 at 12:21 AM.. |
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Republicans don't like mail in ballots and Democrats like mail in ballots for the same reason. Mail in ballots very slightly favor democrats when you look at the voting preferences of mail in voters in past elections (0.7% to be exact, which is very small but could be the margin in an election as close as some recent ones have been) Source. And that has nothing to do with fraud its a matter of selection bias.
No, one dude committing fraud that's not even mail in is not evidence. That's an anecdote. And oh what's this? A lone wolf Republican caught tampering with ballots. Lawsuits by the guy running that don't present their own hard evidence are not objective evidence either. Bring me evidence. A credible study. A large scale operation uncovered. I'll be waiting. This is not a pro-Democrat post. This is a let's be real about everyone's motivations post. This is politics, both sides try to get every edge they can. I get many here appreciate that Republicans are the ones who protect gun rights. I don't see fully eye to eye with either side but I appreciate the Republican party for that protection as well. There's no need to pull wool over your own eyes to make yourself feel better about your alignment with that. |
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And Trump is still Your President ! Do you get paid in Russian Rubles or Chinese Yuan thru your ActBlue Express account to post all these wild conjectures & innuendos ? Noble |
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This is the second time I am calling you a hypocrite, from what I read in your posts you certainly are telling everyone what they should feel, think, and believe. Good luck with your left idealogy on a gun forum!
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What I have done is tell YOU and other leftist Soros / Bloomberg shills and hypocrite pro democrat gun owners to take your leftist anti 2A filth and go somewhere else. I respond to your anti 2A pro democrat propaganda and DISINFORMATION that you and your leftist pro democrat friends routinely come out of the woodwork in an election cycle to spew. I have and will continue to call you all out for who and what you are and how you have and will vote against the 2A and 99% of the participants in this forum. And all I have to do is cut and paste your own words/posts. Your profile name is so telling...people like you come here to sow the seeds of discontent and say what you do here because it is safe...you know that if you told people in person at gun ranges/gun stores you'd be a laughing stock, shunned and probably get your *** kicked. So much safer behind a keyboard right..."Anonymous"?
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Still planing to vote for "the old man"?
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BLACK RIFLES MATTER! Last edited by tankarian; 10-21-2020 at 1:05 PM.. |
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Because since the dead are at a disadvantage they get to vote twice.
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This whole thing just stinks. |
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As usual, anyone who disagrees with a liberal/progressive's position or calls someone out for their liberal/progressive position is seen as launching a personal attack. Criticizing/challenging a public political position is a completely different thing than attacking someone personally. Snowflake much?
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<<< THIS is an acknowledgement that voter fraud exists. So how do you define "significant"? That seems to be the only part of the claim you call into question.
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Yup, it happened in Orange County last time around.
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The liberal rational for all these rife with fraud policies is similar to the rational for banning firearms...
"If it saves just one life..." = "Every vote should count..." The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Friday ruled that ballots cannot be thrown out if the signature on the ballot does not match the signature on the ballot application. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pa-...-matching-rule
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Hmmmm... joined in August 2020 and you live in the Bay Area. Can't wait to see what your future posts are about ...
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