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Old 01-12-2016, 2:49 PM
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Default Richard Dawkins says...

I think he's on to something!

http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...mething-worse/

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“There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings,” Dawkins said. “I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death. I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse,” he said.
Christianity isn't on the decline but he's getting close on one point. Christianity is most definitely a bulwark against all things evil including death.
Maybe he'll figure that out.
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Old 01-12-2016, 3:06 PM
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Christianity isn't on the decline but he's getting close on one point. Christianity is most definitely a bulwark against all things evil including death.
Maybe he'll figure that out.
Christianity as well as most other organized religions are on the decline in the US. Catholicism is increasing a bit due to immigration. The number of people who affiliate as 'None' is growing.
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So death is evil?
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Old 01-12-2016, 3:27 PM
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Christianity as well as most other organized religions are on the decline in the US. Catholicism is increasing a bit due to immigration. The number of people who affiliate as 'None' is growing.
Dawkins is a Brit.

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So death is evil?
Depends how you define it.
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Old 01-12-2016, 7:35 PM
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ha, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. maybe yall should work on converting him. Dawkins renouncing atheism would send liberal/progressive heads spinning.
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Old 01-13-2016, 6:50 PM
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Hard to believe Dawkins uttered these words.
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Old 01-14-2016, 4:35 AM
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Hard to believe Dawkins uttered these words.
If you are a real open minded person and study history/world religions it's as clear as day that Christianity is the bedrock of a civilized society.
Everywhere that Christianity has been allowed to flourish has resulted in a far superior form of society.

Contrary to popular belief it's not a "westernized" culture, it's a Christianized culture.
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So death is evil?
Inquire within..caaaaaaalm.......
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Old 01-14-2016, 1:15 PM
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If you are a real open minded person and study history/world religions it's as clear as day that Christianity is the bedrock of a civilized society.
Everywhere that Christianity has been allowed to flourish has resulted in a far superior form of society.

Contrary to popular belief it's not a "westernized" culture, it's a Christianized culture.
I'm not surprised at the content, but rather who said it.
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He's realizing it a little late. In a couple generations Europe won't be the Europe of the last 1000+ yrs. Wonder if he will realize it was science (not the hard sciences) that destroyed it?
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I'm not surprised at the content, but rather who said it.
That's why I think the blinders are coming off.

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He's realizing it a little late. In a couple generations Europe won't be the Europe of the last 1000+ yrs. Wonder if he will realize it was science (not the hard sciences) that destroyed it?
He's a Brit. Folks like him have been working diligently to remove God from every corner of British life and now that they've done that the devil steps in.
This is what he's seeing, he just doesn't realize it yet.
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Hard to believe Dawkins uttered these words.
Then you don't know anything about Dawkins or Atheists. Sure we like to troll you Christians sometimes because it's funny and you typically have thin skin, but we take Islam and it's systematic evil very serious. It's a religion that must be stopped from spreading. I honestly feel very bad for Christians stuck in the middle east, especially in Syria and Iraq.
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Then you don't know anything about Dawkins or Atheists. Sure we like to troll you Christians sometimes because it's funny and you typically have thin skin, but we take Islam and it's systematic evil very serious. It's a religion that must be stopped from spreading. I honestly feel very bad for Christians stuck in the middle east, especially in Syria and Iraq.
If you think Christians have thin skin, try showing an atheist that more people in humanity have been killed in the name of atheism than the murders done in the name of all religions combined, and watch the lulz ensue.
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Interesting. Dawkins simply sidestepped the story of Samson the suicide "bomber" in the bible. "And Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life." Book of Judges 16:30, Old Testament. And the first recorded suicide attack was during the crusades.. 144 christian crusaders blew up their own ship along with them inside to stave off the advancing muslim fleet.

Dawkin also forgot the mention the Tamil Tigers (non muslims), the first in modern history to employ suicide missions on civilian and government targets.
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Old 03-28-2016, 7:43 AM
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The Japanese Kamikaze attacks were earlier.
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I prefer Barbarian Age "Western Civilization". Perhaps a return to the faith of the Aesir and Vanir, or Perun of the Slavs, or Tengri of the Mongols is in order.

It would certainly be the end of so anemic a Western World.
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Necro-post of course but wanted to add this even older video interview of Dawkins.

If your convictions are less secure, don't watch it. Sort of promotes unbelief. Worth thinking about the subject if you are willing to do so. Many interesting thoughts IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Xn...ws6ZLRPSTP5FQy
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Interesting. Dawkins simply sidestepped the story of Samson the suicide "bomber" in the bible. "And Samson said, 'Let me die with the Philistines!' And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life." Book of Judges 16:30, Old Testament. And the first recorded suicide attack was during the crusades.. 144 christian crusaders blew up their own ship along with them inside to stave off the advancing muslim fleet.

Dawkin also forgot the mention the Tamil Tigers (non muslims), the first in modern history to employ suicide missions on civilian and government targets.
Samson original calling was to defeat the Philistines. When you read and understand what was going on it's really fascinating.

On your next point laying down your life to save others is a very noble cause.
There is no greater love than this that a man lays down his life for his friends. John 15:13

These are big differences from "convert or die"
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Necro-post of course but wanted to add this even older video interview of Dawkins.

If your convictions are less secure, don't watch it. Sort of promotes unbelief. Worth thinking about the subject if you are willing to do so. Many interesting thoughts IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Xn...ws6ZLRPSTP5FQy
That was pre 2012
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That was pre 2012
So the ideas no longer fashionable,.. like self-flagellation as an example? I said it was older when I posted it. Thanks for the reply though!
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