Official 'Bee Canyon' Clean-up site!!.

[Eat Dirt]

Next Saturday too soon to get a Clean-up together ??

[Hitman2002]

I can make it. what time?

[Rakso]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

Next Saturday too soon to get a Clean-up together ??

How is there trash if it has been closed since last season?

[SoCal Gunner]

Originally Posted by Rakso

How is there trash if it has been closed since last season?

A lot of people don't abide by the rules?
Same type that break the rules aren't concerned about leaving their trash, so its a double whammy.

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by Rakso

How is there trash if it has been closed since last season?

There is Not a gate to close off the area
As it is a Main dirt road to access the back county and the Forestry uses it to patrol the forest
And off roaders can still use the trails..No problem with that !!!

The Trash piles up when ' People ' who don't obey the rules sneak out ..... Blast up some junk ....then run away ........

That why canyon #1 gets the most trash
First one they can get out ,,,,shoot Junk .... Run away like the Dirt Bags they are

[SoCal Gunner]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

There is Not a gate to close off the area

As it is a Main dirt road to access the back county and the Forestry uses it to patrol the forest

And off roaders can still use the trails..No problem with that !!!



The Trash piles up when ' People ' who don't obey the rules sneak out ..... Blast up some junk ....then run away ........



That why canyon #1 gets the most trash

First one they can get out ,,,,shoot Junk .... Run away like the Dirt Bags they are

This. Saw it first hand on way to Idyllwild.

I can do the 3rd (this Saturday) morning for sure. I'd be a maybe for the 10th and will follow this and update my availability when I know more.

PS, I broke my kneecap this year and am officially a bit of a gimp, but I come armed with a teenage son - lol. (And a Jeep Gladiator)

[Hitman2002]

Cant do the 10th. 17th??

[SoCal Gunner]

@Eat Dirt

We can do tomorrow morning - let me know.

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by SoCal Gunner

@Eat Dirt

We can do tomorrow morning - let me know.

Here's the Scoop,,,

Maybe because it's December, Maybe it's because the canyons are not open for shooting.
Maybe it's just the way things are now .......

Not getting anybody to Volunteer on cleaning up just one Canyon
So I putting this on the back burner

I'm just going to wait till January
Repost a date for a clean-up and see what happens

[SoCal Gunner]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

Here's the Scoop,,,



Maybe because it's December, Maybe it's because the canyons are not open for shooting.

Maybe it's just the way things are now .......



Not getting anybody to Volunteer on cleaning up just one Canyon

So I putting this on the back burner



I'm just going to wait till January

Repost a date for a clean-up and see what happens

Copy that - I'm subscribed to this thread, so I'll look for future posts.
(PS - definitely can't make Jan 28th)

[willstang]

I was out there this past Monday and it seemed all shooting canyons were full. #2 wasn’t too bad but I took out some trash and the Cranston fire station was kind enough to let me use their dumpsters to empty my haul. I met some people who seemed interested in coming out to a clean up.


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[axel4488]

Originally Posted by willstang

I was out there this past Monday and it seemed all shooting canyons were full. #2 wasn’t too bad but I took out some trash and the Cranston fire station was kind enough to let me use their dumpsters to empty my haul. I met some people who seemed interested in coming out to a clean up.

I am close by near Cactus Valley. If anyone is up for a thursday/friday cleanup/shoot I have a truck to haul off garbage!

[Eat Dirt]

Road Closed !!!!

The Bee Canyon dirt road is Closed at the white metal gate
Just past orchard road

Closed to All vehicle traffic, but you can walk in
The road at next to last shooting spot is Gone
20 ft drop !!

[LMan57]

So I guess cleanup is out of the question for now,

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by LMan57

So I guess cleanup is out of the question for now,

There are always Wheelbarrows ..........YeeHaw

[mk2dave]

For those of us further away, it would help if plans were made a little further into the future and a better idea of geographic location.

When the day might be the day after tomorrow and the location is somewhere East, it makes it a bit difficult to try and help.

BUT, for example if it's the first Saturday in March at Bee's Canyon (approx. 20 minutes west of Idyllwild), it's easier to plan.

[Eat Dirt]

Originally Posted by mk2dave

For those of us further away, it would help if plans were made a little further into the future and a better idea of geographic location.

When the day might be the day after tomorrow and the location is somewhere East, it makes it a bit difficult to try and help.

BUT, for example if it's the first Saturday in March at Bee's Canyon (approx. 20 minutes west of Idyllwild), it's easier to plan.

If you look at the first post on this thread
I've been doing these Clean- Ups for over 12 Years now
To help keep this area open , Countless hours with personal on my own clean ups and volunteering with the Forest Service
With Full cooperation with the Forest Service
So I think I have a Good handle on the logistics

But , for example, What have you done to help out keep a shooting area open for future generations

[LMan57]

Bee Canyon

Latitude : 33.748458
Longitude : -116.833624
Elevation : 2000

[mk2dave]

Originally Posted by Eat Dirt

If you look at the first post on this thread
I've been doing these Clean- Ups for over 12 Years now
To help keep this area open , Countless hours with personal on my own clean ups and volunteering with the Forest Service
With Full cooperation with the Forest Service
So I think I have a Good handle on the logistics

But , for example, What have you done to help out keep a shooting area open for future generations

I'm trying to figure out if you think I was insulting you for some reason? Or doubted your logistical prowess?

Neither is the case. Looking at the last page, what it seems like you were missing was help to clean up the range. Usually, that's why people post things like "Anyone interested in doing a One Canyon Clean-up???"

So I was just expressing that if things were planned a little further out and I had an accurate idea of where this range was, I might be able to offer some of the assistance you asked for. The lat/long works, thank you for that LMan57.

But clearly you have the logistics covered, so I'll look to help elsewhere.

[axel4488]

I went up a little past the 33.748458, -116.833624 marker last week. Was doable but with a trailer, you're in for a very rutted road. Farther up, the road got worse and didn't want to risk it in a 2WD Ranger. Doesn't look too bad, not many people are going up there as the road closure signs are still in place.

[jasonnam]

Would like to go out and clean up if possible.

Question: when was the last time it was open?


It?s been closed for so long. Why? Closing it up won?t keep the criminal folk out. Let?s just leave it open so we can have a regular schedule of people shooting and cleaning! We are losing folks. We are losing folks in so many avenues from so cal and california as a whole.


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[jasonnam]

Originally Posted by axel4488

I went up a little past the 33.748458, -116.833624 marker last week. Was doable but with a trailer, you're in for a very rutted road. Farther up, the road got worse and didn't want to risk it in a 2WD Ranger. Doesn't look too bad, not many people are going up there as the road closure signs are still in place.

Is it officially open?


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[jasonnam]

Did you get to shoot axel?


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[desertrider]

Originally Posted by jasonnam

Did you get to shoot axel?


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I could be wrong, but since it's still summer and there is a lot of fuel to feed a wildfire, the Canyon is probably still closed due to fire restrictions.

I wouldn't be surprised if it stays closed well into December unless we get a lot of rain before then. Would also depend on the road condition, recent storms may have caused damage.

Maybe Eat Dirt can give an update?

[axel4488]

I didn't go to shoot, just to see how it was up there. Last thing I needed was a truck full of guns and the Forestry Service looking at me. The signs all do indicate the road is closed, but as far as I could tell people have been up there as recently as a few days ago. The main gate they have at the mouth of the canyon is open.

[jasonnam]

So it?s open lol. Gate is open!


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[jasonnam]

Whoever does this recording on the phone number needs to be fired. She speaks with a low mumble and can?t understand what the heck she is saying. United States forest service please consider finding someone else to do the recording lol


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[retired]

Originally Posted by jasonnam

Whoever does this recording on the phone number needs to be fired. She speaks with a low mumble and can?t understand what the heck she is saying. United States forest service please consider finding someone else to do the recording lol


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I do not mean this harshly but expecting the FS to see your post and then act upon it is wishful thinking. Instead, why not contact the FS and tactfully explain the difficulty in understanding the recording. Who knows they may look into it and determine you are correct and have a new recording made. You might also ask if they know when Bee Canyon will open again.

One last thing, you might contact Eat Dirt as desertrider suggested. Ron grew up shooting there and he is the one who established the rapport with the Forest Service. He has a friendly relationship with the LE Ranger too. The Forest Service has advised him more than once that Calgun volunteers are the reason Bee Canyon wasn't closed down years ago. I've joined Ron and other volunteers since the beginning in doing our part to keep it open. I know you and others want to shoot there as do I. Hope to see you there one of these days.

[jaysponger]

Went there today, gate is closed. Was thinking about shooting with my son but sign says otherwise. I called the number but can't understand a word he's saying. When are we going to clean up?