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Old 11-11-2023, 10:04 AM
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Default Belly Bands & Big Boys for beltless carry

Saw this: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/best-...band-holsters/ They present some interesting insights.

I've always dismissed these gun girdles without actually learning anything about them however, I am now working in light sweatpants & joggers frequently and carrying without a belt is a P.I.T.A. so I'm asking. Can a guy with a 40" waist who wants to carry a full size Glock on his strong side (not appendix) use these without sweating like a pig and hating it?

Would appreciate firsthand input and selection advice. Would be wearing it for 6hrs min.
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I can't answer your question, but I know I would never carry a Glock in a soft sided "holster" band. Anything you can't "turn the trigger off" with a safety needs a fitted, hardshell holster portion.
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I can't answer your question, but I know I would never carry a Glock in a soft sided "holster" band. Anything you can't "turn the trigger off" with a safety needs a fitted, hardshell holster portion.
So you didn't click the link I posted eh?
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If the original post was unclear...I am seeking first-person input from those who have actually used these types of holsters. The designs appear to have come a long way (read linked comparison), thus eliminating the concerns of non-users like G-force. All of the options shown incorporate either leather or kydex shells to secure the weapon.
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If the original post was unclear...I am seeking first-person input from those who have actually used these types of holsters. The designs appear to have come a long way (read linked comparison), thus eliminating the concerns of non-users like G-force. All of the options shown incorporate either leather or kydex shells to secure the weapon.
I used the original Smart Carry holster for a Glock 26 and a Kahr MK9 for the better part of 6 years. Before I did however, I tested to see if I could get the gun to go off (unloaded of course) and no matter where I pressed or tugged with my fingers, I could not get the trigger to go off while in the holster.

I have no other first hand knowledge except the original SmartCarry and if you want to carry that way, I'd suggest buying one and testing it before actual use.

FYI, I don't currently carry but when I do I would use a "belly band".
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So you didn't click the link I posted eh?
I did, and the very first holster, Galico, #1 on the list, is nothing but elastic band with pockets sewn in. Whats your point?

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I did, and the very first holster, Galico, #1 on the list, is nothing but elastic band with pockets sewn in. Whats your point?
No point, other than I am not considering any bands that don't provide a secure holder for the firearm...you must have missed the part about Galco that reads: "The leather holster pockets come in different sizes, so ensure you have the right size pocket for your gun. They range from pocket pistols to the mighty CZ P-09.

Outside the leather holster pockets are two extra pockets for accessories."
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I used the original Smart Carry holster for a Glock 26 and a Kahr MK9 for the better part of 6 years. Before I did however, I tested to see if I could get the gun to go off (unloaded of course) and no matter where I pressed or tugged with my fingers, I could not get the trigger to go off while in the holster.

I have no other first hand knowledge except the original SmartCarry and if you want to carry that way, I'd suggest buying one and testing it before actual use.

FYI, I don't currently carry but when I do I would use a "belly band".

Is the Smart Carry strictly an appendix holster or can ya spin it around for strong side? I am seeking a comfortable holster I can use when riding a motorcycle as well.
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I didn't miss a thing, but I think you have. Did you actually look at the pictures? I'll help you out:
https://www.galcogunleather.com/unde..._393_1518.html

The leather part is a flat leather pad between you and your skin for comfort. The outside, the part covering the trigger, is nothing but stretchy material. I can so easily see a seat belt or chair arm corner or something making contact with a trigger.


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No point, other than I am not considering any bands that don't provide a secure holder for the firearm...you must have missed the part about Galco that reads: "The leather holster pockets come in different sizes, so ensure you have the right size pocket for your gun. They range from pocket pistols to the mighty CZ P-09.

Outside the leather holster pockets are two extra pockets for accessories."
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I can see you're the type of person who needs to get the last word in.
I do not. I never said i was committed to the Galco, I asked for input from people who have used the types shown in the link. You have not and your initial post started with the words: "I can't answer your question..." making your participation here worthless to me. I do not care to argue with someone that cannot provide first-person experience (as stated in the OP). I'm ignoring you now and awaiting response from those who have worn belly bands. Particularly those with Kydex holsters. You needn't respond anymore but probably cannot stop yourself.
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crossbreed has a Kydex system. The holster can go with a bunch of options. The belly band 1.0 very forgiving. Get the bigger size if you are close to it.
I'm a big guy. It fits comfortable all day.
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Jumping in a little late here, but I tried the belly band approach a couple decades ago, an elastic Nylon version. I found it trapped heat very effectively, so much so I couldn’t wear it. If you are naturally cold, it might just be the thing for you.
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Not my primary, however when the situation calls for it, this is my go to...
https://vnsh.com/
Absolutely love it.
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im a bigger person and in the process of getting my ccw. I just started looking around for an iwb. for us bigger boys with bellys, is the band the way to go?? I know its super embarrassing and doubt that i could have my pistol in front cause of my belly.

do some of yall have any recommendations or should i just go with something leather?
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Not my primary, however when the situation calls for it, this is my go to...
https://vnsh.com/
Absolutely love it.
Does that holster have a strap across the back of the gun?
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im a bigger person and in the process of getting my ccw. I just started looking around for an iwb. for us bigger boys with bellys, is the band the way to go?? I know its super embarrassing and doubt that i could have my pistol in front cause of my belly.

do some of yall have any recommendations or should i just go with something leather?

Check this holster out!!

https://jxtactical.com/fat-guy-holster/

I?m also a big boy with a belly and looked this holster up on YouTube when I was in the process of getting my CCW.


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Does that holster have a strap across the back of the gun?
Yes, with infinite velcro adjustment.
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I am pretty big guy, 5.9 210 lbs. I am using Enigma with Tulster Oats holster for my EDC with P365. I love it! No issue at all. Very important to tune it precisely and find best position for yourself. I am caring at 12 o’clock.
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Probably not ideal, but I have no problem with traditional AIWB holsters if I'm wearing joggers or shorts to the gym as long as the pants have a drawstring which prevents the holster from coming out of the pants when you draw. I only do this though when I'm going to the gym, otherwise I never wear sweatpants in public. I'm 6'2, 200lbs. and wear 33" or 34" waist in jeans (I can usually get away with a 32" waist but size up to accommodate the holster).
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Is the Smart Carry strictly an appendix holster or can ya spin it around for strong side? I am seeking a comfortable holster I can use when riding a motorcycle as well.
I carried at 12'o clock but can be carried strong side.
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I've dinked around with a few beltless options and since I still need to wear a belt, I left with the "what's the point?" opinion. I owned one briefly, sent it back to Amazon... and tried another in a local gun store and they just aren't for me.

Yes I carry a Glock and that was also an issue in my mind, but secondary to the fact I just could see another apparatus being more beneficial than just a quality holster on a quality belt.
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I carried at 12'o clock but can be carried strong side.
Thanks for that. Bought one, we'll see.
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So I was really underwhelmed with the look of the holster when I viewed it online prior to purchase. But it was cheap to what the heck. My Smart Carry arrived today. Pounding a keyboard from my home-based office, I chose to wear my pajamas all day (which seemed like a good opportunity to try this thing out). This is the model I purchased:



I was quite surprised how comfortable it was with a 10rd mag and fully loaded G27 holstered. While slower to draw with this holster, I suspect that's because I lack practice with it and it's a whole new learning curve. What I didn't expect was the Smart Carry's ability to ease discomfort in my lower back. I often suffer lower back pain (sciatica...the result of totaling 5 motorcycles in my 20s) and after playing Santa and hosting dinner for 20 guests on Christmas (and all the cleaning, moving furniture, and 100 other strenuous tasks needed to prepare for the holiday) my back has been kinda stiff for the week thereafter. Not painful, just discomfort. Well the Smart Carry holster acted kinda like a kidney belt and eased my discomfort instantly and that was a pleasant & unexpected benefit. The real test will be wearing it in the real world but preliminary tests look positive. Thanks for recommending it!
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