$900 Mosin 91/30

[Jarhead]

$900 Mosin Nagant 91/30 at Turners / Lake Forest

[Rogerbutthead]

Is that stated in surprise or is that really the going price for those 69 dollar Big 5 rifles now - ?

[capt14k]

Some idiots bid one to $2500 on GunBroker. Doubt they will pay for it. It's just getting stupid. Usually when I get completely disgusted with price and get out or accept it the market crashes. That's been my experience with Civil War, 1950s Cars, Hummel, Sportscards, Housing, and Dot Com Bubbles. We are overdue for a crash.

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[capt14k]

If it doesn't crash soon I may sell everything and take advantage of the recent Mopar Bubble Burst. Always wanted a 1969-70 Dodge Charger RT. Barracuda too.

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[risingsun212]

Supply and demand. If there are no large shipments of Mosins coming in, the price will continue to go up.

[eagle eye]

Originally Posted by Jarhead

$900 Mosin Nagant 91/30 at Turners / Lake Forest

Here is the link

https://www.turners.com/info/online-gun-rack

https://www2.turners.com/gunrack/images/25563.jpg

[Mosin1944]

Originally Posted by Rogerbutthead

Is that stated in surprise or is that really the going price for those 69 dollar Big 5 rifles now - ?

I paid $85 for both my M44 and M91/30 at Big 5, both in decent condition

[CWL]

Didn't see it, but I was too distracted by that used Ruger 10/22 asking $900!

[Tere_Hanges]

Dang, how much are USGI M1 rifles going for then?

[93chipper]

For 900 bucks I’d rather get another k98 or 1903

[Surf & Turf]

I would sell mine for $650....

[kcheung2]

It's the consignment asking price. Doesn't mean there's a buyer at that price.

C&R collectors always say these old guns will only go up in price, then when they actually do go up in price they seem astonished.

[M76]

does it come with 5K rounds of ammo and a date with a Russian model?

[Rogerbutthead]

Originally Posted by kcheung2

C&R collectors always say these old guns will only go up in price, then when they actually do go up in price they seem astonished.

I just thought that was the excuse you used on your wife when she discovers what you have acquired recently........

[zhyla]

Originally Posted by risingsun212

Supply and demand. If there are no large shipments of Mosins coming in, the price will continue to go up.

But we’re talking about a rifle with 37 million copies in circulation. I don’t know how many made it to the U.S. but enough that anyone who wanted one has ten of them.

Also a lot of the demand came from cheap ammo. With the supply of surplus ammo gone (forever?) the Mosin becomes more of an interesting war relic for collectors than a cheap fun boomstick.

I’ve only got a couple of these, an M44 and a type 53. I will likely hang onto them but if I had a stack of 91/30’s I would be selling those during the Mosin bubble.

[Sam Hainn]

Originally Posted by kcheung2

C&R collectors always say these old guns will only go up in price, then when they actually do go up in price they seem astonished.

Um, no. Going up to $350/$400 as we have seen widespread about now, would be silly, but some justification can be made for it by explaining supplies dried up, etc.

However, the idea that Turdner's would proceed to put one up at a price of $900 rather than being honest with the seller - is just moronic.

That is unless the seller is also someone that works at Turdner's and just wants to put it up to see if anyone bites. A lot of noobs out there to be taken advantage of.

[Surf & Turf]

So when is the bubble?

[NOTABIKER]

A nice 91-30 to me is a better rifle than a beater miss match shot out Russian capture K 98

[highpower]

Originally Posted by NOTABIKER

A nice 91-30 to me is a better rifle than a beater miss match shot out Russian capture K 98

But not worth more...

[Kokopelli]

I'd buy the sporterized Model 98 8X57 Mauser for $300 before I bought that Mosin.

[microwaveguy]

When /if they hit $500 I'am a seller.

[Scota4570]

Putting out consignments at a ridiculous prices is a bad business practice. We never allowed it when I worked at a gun shop. It makes the business looks bad and the word gets around, like it is doing right here.

[NOTABIKER]

Everyday person to person price is about 350 for a nothing special 91 30. About the same price as
Arisaka
M 48
beater SKS

[Tere_Hanges]

Originally Posted by*NOTABIKER*

A nice 91-30 to me is a better rifle than a beater miss match shot out Russian capture K 98

Originally Posted by highpower

But not worth more...

Haha, so true.

I've had a couple Mosins. I honestly do not see the appeal at all. Even with cheap ammo. Steel cased non corrosive 7.62x39 was just as cheap as corrosive 7.62x54R. I'd rather just buy 7.62x39 to feed my sks and AK.

At $100ea for a Mosin, sure throw one on the DROS but. Mosins are junk. Beautiful and charming looking junk. Never shot one without the handguard moving or popping out. The mosin is one step above a musket IMHO. Obviously Im not talking about Finnish Mosins. Which arent even the same gun IMHO.

[Jarhead]

What would a Remington or Captured Finn be going for today, not enough description to really tell what Turners is selling.

[capt14k]

Originally Posted by risingsun212

Supply and demand. If there are no large shipments of Mosins coming in, the price will continue to go up.

But there are large shipments coming in. (2) of 1500 each 91/30 from Limex one to Century and one to PW Arms.

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[capt14k]

Originally Posted by kcheung2

It's the consignment asking price. Doesn't mean there's a buyer at that price.

C&R collectors always say these old guns will only go up in price, then when they actually do go up in price they seem astonished.

Nothing goes straight up. Show me one bubble in the history of the world that hasn't burst. Prices were heading lower til free government money was injected. It is when people start accepting these ridiculous prices and start buying in thinking it will go higher that bubbles usually burst. Plenty of people took interest only housing loans thinking housing prices would only continue to climb. So they would sell at a higher price before the principal payments kicked in.

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[capt14k]

Originally Posted by Jarhead

What would a Remington or Captured Finn be going for today, not enough description to really tell what Turners is selling.

There is no such thing as a Remington 91/30

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[capt14k]

Originally Posted by Surf & Turf

So when is the bubble?

This is exactly how other bubbles burst. Housing, dot com, civil war firearms, mopar cars, and sportscards. I thought the bubble had reached bursting size previously but I was wrong. It needed to get much larger and draw in many more buyers before it was truly a bubble ready to burst. If it doesn't burst soon I am selling and taking advantage of the Mopar bubble that bursted. Collecting isn't fun at these prices. Thankfully European market hasn't followed suit.

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[slamfire1]

Can't afford to replace this:





Glad I got it when they were under $150.

[Garand Hunter]

Unreal prices for rifles that I myself consider to be one cut above junk. I do not desire to demean anyone, that is my personal estimation of these rifles, with the exception of the Finn M39. Even the Japanese rifles of WWII were way better than Mosins.

Psalm 1

[capt14k]

Originally Posted by Garand Hunter

Unreal prices for rifles that I myself consider to be one cut above junk. I do not desire to demean anyone, that is my personal estimation of these rifles, with the exception of the Finn M39. Even the Japanese rifles of WWII were way better than Mosins.

Psalm 1

The M28/30 is also a good rifle and the post war target and snipers made by the Finns. The rest are garbage rods.


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[oc16]

those are joke prices, I understand that the seller is trying to make some cash but sometimes the shops ask for stupid amounts for the sale. One shop I wont name wanted 60% for the cosignment realistically the seller is expecting maybe 400-500 on the mosin sale. He still wont get it and I recommend waiting until after the election.

[Jimja]

Originally Posted by capt14k

There is no such thing as a Remington 91/30

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It's possible. There are plenty of m91's that were cut down during the war. I'm sure there were Remingtons, NEW's, etc, among them.

However, postwar these rifles were considered defective and disposed of. There are a few of these "defective" rifles that are known (not Remington or NEW though) that accidentally passed post war inspections.

I'm pretty sure that somewhere out there are some examples of 91/30 Remington and NEW rifles. For example, there are a few known Soviet post-war refurb M30 Tikkas that have been sold as 91/30 refurbs

As to the $900, some 91/30 refurbs (though probably not that one) are worth a lot more than that. There are a couple of 91/30 rifles that I have bid over $1000 on in the past, both sold to someone else for more $.

[Jimja]

Here is an example of a "defective" 91/30 that's worth ~$900 or more

https://www.patreon.com/posts/1918-sestroretsk-35852687

[capt14k]

Originally Posted by Jimja

It's possible. There are plenty of m91's that were cut down during the war. I'm sure there were Remingtons, NEW's, etc, among them.



However, postwar these rifles were considered defective and disposed of. There are a few of these "defective" rifles that are known (not Remington or NEW though) that accidentally passed post war inspections.



I'm pretty sure that somewhere out there are some examples of 91/30 Remington and NEW rifles. For example, there are a few known Soviet post-war refurb M30 Tikkas that have been sold as 91/30 refurbs



As to the $900, some 91/30 refurbs (though probably not that one) are worth a lot more than that. There are a couple of 91/30 rifles that I have bid over $1000 on in the past, both sold to someone else for more $.

Yes there could be some one offs, but there were none that were contracted new. There are also Remington M39 and others, but I don't necessarily believe they are real. At least not the examples I have seen pics of. If they aren't found in Finland I don't trust it, and before anyone says the Finns sent most of their rifles here that is not correct. Plenty were kept in country.

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[capt14k]

Originally Posted by Jimja

Here is an example of a "defective" 91/30 that's worth ~$900 or more

https://www.patreon.com/posts/1918-sestroretsk-35852687

Link is for 1918 M91. Is that the correct link? Haven't read through the whole thing yet.

The "5 are known" has always bothered me. There are many large collections out there that many don't know what are in it. One is right there in California. Rifles Roy Comalli, but since there were so many on gunboards that were jealous of his collection he was ran off by the squirrels, and many of his Finns were never shared online.

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[iwant22lr]

Maybe it was Stalin’s gun.... lol

[Jimja]

Originally Posted by capt14k

Link is for 1918 M91. Is that the correct link? Haven't read through the whole thing yet.

The "5 are known" has always bothered me. There are many large collections out there that many don't know what are in it. One is right there in California. Rifles Roy Comalli, but since there were so many on gunboards that were jealous of his collection he was ran off by the squirrels, and many of his Finns were never shared online.

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The rifle I meant is pictured at that bottom of that article, it's a 91/30 refurb made from an 1918 Sestroretsk

Yeah, the "x are known" can be problematic, but if it's said by someone that actively tracks certain things for years it can be useful to get an idea of comparative rarity of certain features/years.

And yes, there are quite a few awesome collections that have amazing things in them, but the owners do not talk about them publicly (many are not on forums, facebook, etc). As a side note to that, every once in a while an estate sale hits the market with some very unusual and cool things. Most of them don't get sold publicly, dealers keep them for themselves or they go to their top clients

[plumbum]

Tell ya what, if you take at least 5, I'll give them to you for $700 each - pay in cash and I'll throw in a can of ammo for $440 just because I'm a nice guy and I can tell you're a shrewd businessman!