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Old 09-04-2021, 1:09 PM
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Looks like HK is Licensing these again through umarex, (no mention of walther this time). I get asked about my A5 and SD versions all of the time and I’m glad to see they are sending these back over. I wonder how they will compare to the original release that dried up a few years ago? The magwell markings look different from the photos I have seen so far

Set to ship October 1, in both rifle and pistol versions. MSRP is around 500.00

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Old 09-04-2021, 3:12 PM
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I might add one to the pile.
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That pistol looks awesome. I’ll probably get one when I move to America in the next few months.
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First the SL8 and now this. Maybe they are on a roll?

Now, if they could come out with a variation of the HK300 and get it out the door in 17 HMR I have a list of people I'd sell out to get one.
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Didn't umarex make the Tactical one as well back in around 2012? I remember it being a cool idea because of the 26in OAL compactness. I shrugged it off at the time because 22lr wasn't cool enough for me, now I want one.
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Still can’t reach the selector though…
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Will the pistol variant be sold in Kalifornia? I've been very happy with my Walther MP5. It's been ridiculously reliable.
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I have their umarex run from several years ago, and it is a really fun shooter. Didn't care much for the cheek weld with the collapsible stock. With a bit of dremmelling I was able to get a real HK full stock to fit on it. Feels great.
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Oh man. I can't wait!
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Thx op. That's 500 or more dollars I will be spending toward the end of the year. Hopefully they'll have a 10 round version to make it easy on us here behind communist enemy lines.
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Can we get the little one here in CA?
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Thx op. That's 500 or more dollars I will be spending toward the end of the year. Hopefully they'll have a 10 round version to make it easy on us here behind communist enemy lines.
The HK website lists the magazine capacity as "10 / 25 round" so I'm hopeful. I came so close to buying one of the GSG ones back when they first came out. I'm glad I can finally get my rimfire MP5-SD facsimile.
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The only pistol that is not required to be on the roster is a single action revolver. So just like every other rimfire auto, if it’s not on the roster, it’s a no go for CA. Be sure to vote for your gun rights. And basic freedoms.
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People have been paying $1100-$1400 for these on Gunbroker lately, I'm glad I held out for their return...
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The only pistol that is not required to be on the roster is a single action revolver. So just like every other rimfire auto, if it’s not on the roster, it’s a no go for CA. Be sure to vote for your gun rights. And basic freedoms.
It (the pistol version) is also an assault weapon unless you put a maglock on it.

Other pistols not required to be on the roster are dimensionally compliant break-top or bolt action single shot, C&R, and Olympic pistols. There are also dimension and capacity requirements for single action revolvers to be exempt.
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So it needs a mag lock even though it's a .22???? The HK 416 22lr has all the features with no mag lock so why would the mp5 pistol? Barrel length??
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So it needs a mag lock even though it's a .22???? The HK 416 22lr has all the features with no mag lock so why would the mp5 pistol? Barrel length??
Because it's a pistol that has the removable magazine outside the pistol grip. That is an assault weapon feature in CA.

It is also a pistol with a threaded barrel - which is another AW feature.

The 416-22 is a rimfire rifle so those features are ok combined with a removable mag.

There is no exemption for rimfire when it comes to AW features on pistols except for some Olympic pistols.

Don't try to make any sense of it.
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If I recalled correctly, those umarex brand 22 were a pain in the ***** to clean the internals, it’s overly complicated
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It (the pistol version) is also an assault weapon unless you put a maglock on it.

Other pistols not required to be on the roster are dimensionally compliant break-top or bolt action single shot, C&R, and Olympic pistols. There are also dimension and capacity requirements for single action revolvers to be exempt.
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If I recalled correctly, those umarex brand 22 were a pain in the ***** to clean the internals, it’s overly complicated
They do not break fully down for cleaning, the GSG versions are more of a pain in my opinion.
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The rifle version looks sweet, I bet fun to shoot.
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People have been paying $1100-$1400 for these on Gunbroker lately, I'm glad I held out for their return...
Funny you say that. I sent this to H&K back in March:

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Writing to you today in regards to the Walther MP5 .22LR clone that your company allowed to be produced. Why was this discontinued? It was a great firearm, and the demand currently is great. A new in box version just went for $1,500 USD today (3/29/21) on Gunbroker.com. For those of us in states like California, where ownership of an MP5 is near impossible, it's nice to have well made replicas in affordable rimfire ammunition.

Please consider bringing this back.
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If I recalled correctly, those umarex brand 22 were a pain in the ***** to clean the internals, it’s overly complicated
Walther owns Umarex and they made the Hk branded MP5-22, the one sold by Hk, which is the most desirable version made.

Are you thinking of GSG perhaps?

Who makes the easiest to clean??
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guess they are going with the SD looks to hide the ugly thin barrel that has to stick out?
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I hope they price the mags cheap for these. I remember paying 30.00 bucks each when they were last available on Big 5 long time ago.

Then the price doubled on a local gun show before Covid struck


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Looks like HK is Licensing these again through umarex, (no mention of walther this time).
Umarex owns Walther.

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Walther owns Umarex and they made the Hk branded MP5-22, the one sold by Hk, which is the most desirable version made.

Are you thinking of GSG perhaps?

Who makes the easiest to clean??
Other way around, Umarex owns Walther.
H&K licensed Umarex and in turn, Umarex got Walther to make it.

The German Sport Gun version was essentially the GSG MP5 airsoft shell/body wrapped around a .22LR blowback firearm.

The H&K/Umarex/Walther version was easier to clean than the GSG version.
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Funny you say that. I sent this to H&K back in March:

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Writing to you today in regards to the Walther MP5 .22LR clone that your company allowed to be produced. Why was this discontinued? It was a great firearm, and the demand currently is great. A new in box version just went for $1,500 USD today (3/29/21) on Gunbroker.com. For those of us in states like California, where ownership of an MP5 is near impossible, it's nice to have well made replicas in affordable rimfire ammunition.

Please consider bringing this back.
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The pistol version is not CA legal due to being an unsafe handgun that is also an assault weapon.
^unsafe handgun = no magazine disconnect mechansim, no microstamping array, no pass CA DOJ safety testing.
~assault weapon = semi-auto pistol that has restricted features (threaded barrel, second handgrip, accepts magazine outside of the pistol's grip).

The rifle version is CA legal with 10 round magazines.
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Umarex owns Walther.


Other way around, Umarex owns Walther.
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I definitely want to grab one of these, probably the closest I'll get to a MP5 platform in California with a collapsible stock, no fin grip and normal mag release unless some laws drastically change.
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Hope they bring back the fixed stock as an accessory, it’s been impossible to find them. Also it looks like they’re not making an A5 rifle variant?
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Hope they bring back the fixed stock as an accessory, it’s been impossible to find them. Also it looks like they’re not making an A5 rifle variant?

It was never released as a fixed stock AFAIK. I should’ve bought the mp5 stock from the local gun show here years ago.

Probably there’s more demand for the SD, hence the rerelease.


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Curious how accurate are these MP-5 SD in 22lr?
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Anyone know who is going to get any in So Cal? I would like to get on the list if possible.

Side note, the first automatic I ever fired was an MP5....
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RifleGear had them on the website this morning, but sold out now.
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