Ar in .22

[jason925]

I am looking for a ar style .22. Who makes a good one. What brand and who sells them. What are some problems or things i need to look for. I want to put a Franklin Armory binary trigger in it. (It’s legal where I am at)

[Garv]

I like my M&P 15-22, no problems over several years.

Not sure about any trigger modifications though.

[AR22]

I would say roll your own like I do..I made this A2 Clone one using All the USGI FN parts I could find and a repro PSA M16A2 lower..And yes I have a Franklin Binary in it..It is a lot of fun with the BDM 50 Rnd Drums..

When I first got interested in having an AR22..I did look at the SW..But I was quickly convinced over on the ARFCOM Forum to just put my own together using CMMG components..It did not take them much convincing, as I hated the idea of plastic the SW uses, and the fact that is somewhat of a proprietary design by SW..

I am really glad they talked me into doing it the way I did..

There are few other options out there too other than the SW and building a dedicated upper with CMMG parts..I am sure others will be along to explain what they like/dislike in that dept. But I thrilled with the route I took with mine..

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by Garv

I like my M&P 15-22, no problems over several years.

Not sure about any trigger modifications though.

Agree just got one a month ago, got over 2000 rounds fired with it. It eats everything from Golden bullets to Thunder turds and never jams.

Also mimics the real thing with all controls, even the bolt catch. Most others that I looked at did not have an AR type bolt stop. Another plus mags are easy to find, relatively inexpensive and run great.

As far as the trigger, it is just like a big boy AR but the hammer is slightly thinner. Don’t know if there’s a binary trigger that works in one.

[AR22]

I do really like the SW mags, I have few I run occasionally in my dedicated uppers..I have to add a small shim to the SW mags or they rock back and forth a little with out it..I could buy a mag adapter to use the SW mags and have last shot hold open..But last shot hold open is not a issue for me..I am fine with not having it..

That said, from all accounts I have read the Franklin should work fine in the SW if you go that route..

[jason925]

Thanks guys. I am leaning towards piecing one together. I like yours ar22. That’s a good looking gun. Any brands I should stay away from

[AR22]

If you put one together..Both CMMG and RTB are both good as far as parts if you buy new..I think RTB (Right to Bear Arms) are actually rebranded CMMG parts they source from them..

If you watch the Rimfire Equipment Exchange on the ARFCOM forum there are some good deals that come up there by vendors having sales on new parts. Or private people selling excess there..Take your time and scrounge and you should be able to put one together pretty reasonable..

As far as anything in put together Rifles ready to go..I have no first hand experience with anything like that..I actually prefer to put all my AR style Rifles in any caliber together myself from either used or new parts..That way it is done right the first time, the way I want it, not how someone else envisions it..

[jason925]

I was looking at rtb and they have some sales going on. Thanks for pointing me in to the right direction. I was never interested in a .22 ar but with ammo prices and that trigger I don’t want to end up bankrupt

[plinker202020]

Defiance DMK22C = two thumbs up from me

[AR22]

I only tried my Binary Trigger one time with 5.56, just to say I did it..I did not like it at all..Not only the expense of blasting the expensive ammo up..But it was just not a lot of fun and not very controllable for me anyway..I bought the Franklin for exclusive use with my dedicated .22 uppers.With a the little .22 LR round it is cheap fun and very easy to stay on target too..

Another reason to go dedicated and a very good one in my opinion..Is I can swap any of my dedicated uppers on the same Franklin equipped Mil Spec lower at any time. You can only shoot one upper at a time anyway..

Good luck and let us know what you do..

[jason925]

I got too many projects and not enough time. But the prices aren’t to bad. So I might buy and sit on it for a while. I just picked up 2 11 inch barreled AK receivers (milled) today. I will update when I purchase

[PartyBarge]

Originally Posted by Garv

I like my M&P 15-22, no problems over several years.

Best money spent. It just won't fail.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

Tippmann.

Much better quality than their S&W.

[Reno-Kid]

Completed AR15 lower plus dedicated AR22 upper. Or assemble a lower from stripped receiver and parts kit. I created my own AR15 lower after buying a Nordic 22 upper.

[cnj]

I'll echo what has been stated a couple of times already. M&P 15-22. Another alternative, but further away from the AR platform would be a used Sig 522 if you can find one. Discontinued a few years ago. They are heavy ('cause they are well made).

[Jimi Jah]

I built the upper. Anderson $39 lightweight upper, $99 RTB barrel, cheapo free float and a linear comp. I used an old Ceiner conversion bolt, added the SS cap for the .22 barrel. Paid $40 for that.

It has a Leupold 3x9 32 mm freedom scope. Great shooter but my Henry Golden Boy smokes it.

[AR22]

I have read that they may have discontinued the A2 GP barrels too..I knwo when I bought mine shown above it was hard to get one then about 4 years ago..If I remember right..I actually got the last one Cheaper than Dirt had in stock..Do not like that Company..But it was the only alternative I found at the time.

I do not know why they discontinued the M16A2 GP barrels..There are still alot of people seeking them and in demand for sure..But it seems really hard to find any A2 stuff for even 5.56 barrels and A2 upper receivers too..I just put this M16A2 5.56 upper together a couple weeks ago..I lucked into a FN USGI Barrel and FN A2 Upper receiver from a guy on another forum..Of all the AR platform..A2 is my favorite one..

[Bunnysloper]

Anyone have any experience with the Bear Creek Arsenal (BCA) AR-22 upper? Thinking of building a training rifle and not finding much options other there besides the CMMG conversion kit.


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[AR22]

I think it is the opposite now..Retro is in more now from what I have seen..Over on the ARFCOM forum, they are begging for the makers to get more A2 stuff in production..In my opinion the retro stuff will only get bigger as some of the Vets get older and want to replicate their carry service Rifles..

Not slamming the 15-22 and if those that have em love em, great for them..I never really understood why they ever made them with plastic lowers though..They were already producing aluminum standard ARs..For a few bucks more they could have foregone the plastic..

I have not owned a Tippman, but I have read good stuff about them..

[jarhead714]

Originally Posted by AR22

I have read that they may have discontinued the A2 GP barrels too..I knwo when I bought mine shown above it was hard to get one then about 4 years ago..If I remember right..I actually got the last one Cheaper than Dirt had in stock..Do not like that Company..But it was the only alternative I found at the time.

I do not know why they discontinued the M16A2 GP barrels..There are still alot of people seeking them and in demand for sure..But it seems really hard to find any A2 stuff for even 5.56 barrels and A2 upper receivers too..I just put this M16A2 5.56 upper together a couple weeks ago..I lucked into a FN USGI Barrel and FN A2 Upper receiver from a guy on another forum..Of all the AR platform..A2 is my favorite one..

A2s forever. I got Ceiner .22 conversion kits in two different Rock River uppers. A NM A2 and and A4, both with 1:8 Wylde barrels and they are astonishingly accurate with that CCI AR22 ammunition. Probably gonna get another on for my wife’s Dissipator.

['ol shooter]

I like my S&W M&P 15-22, all the controls are the same as an AR and they are all functional. No phony bullschitt like some of them. Lifetime warranty too.

[jason925]

Man I really like the a2 configuration. It’s all but impossible to find maybe I will just wait it out in hopes of a2 configuration hits the market again.

[AR22]

I will keep an eye out for you for a possible A2 if I see one come up for sale..I looked around some and I could not find one in stock anywhere..I reached out to the fellas on the ARFCOM forum just to see if they have any ideas..Will let ya know, good or bad..

[jason925]

That’s awesome. Thank you

[805thRCTank]

Originally Posted by Bunnysloper

Anyone have any experience with the Bear Creek Arsenal (BCA) AR-22 upper? Thinking of building a training rifle and not finding much options other there besides the CMMG conversion kit.


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I have one. I am getting occasional stovepipes with it. I have a CMMG kit as well that never fed once so I sent it to CMMG and got a replacement. The replacement chambered a round properly this time but I haven’t been back at the range as work is slamming for me.

[SharedShots]

Originally Posted by Bunnysloper

Anyone have any experience with the Bear Creek Arsenal (BCA) AR-22 upper? Thinking of building a training rifle and not finding much options other there besides the CMMG conversion kit.


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I have their 22WMR and 17MHR uppers and they are tops. They are very accurate, not as accurate as the Ruger Precision Rimfire in the same cartridge but very close, close enough not to think about.

I have found them to be very reliable and eat any brand/weight of ammo. The fit and finish is really good and they just plain work. No failures other than one that wouldn't fire but also wouldn't fire in a Savage bolt either so I consider that an ammo failure. Together I now have about 3500 rounds through them, very pleased.

I use the BlackDog magazines and they function perfectly. I also have the SWMP15-22 Performance Center and the HK 416 22lr and while the BCA uppers are the rimfire magnums, they outperform the dedicated 22lrs.

Not being too cost conscious on rimfire ammo, I almost always shoot 22WMR or 17HMR, the two dedicated 22lr ARs just sit as they aren't as much fun to me. I fill ensure bottles with water the stuff a mashmallow in the top and when hit it's a pretty good show out much farther then the 22lr does much. I think one of them went into orbit

[AR22]

Ran a question past the ARFCOM forum..And it appears there is not a lot of possibility for finding an A2 GP barrel right now..But there are alot of others waiting on them to come up somewhere too..I would like to have another myself if anything ever comes up that is..

[SmallShark]

build your own upper is the best way to go

fake suppressor

[SonofWWIIDI]

As others have said, I built my own from standard parts and the cmmg kit (with dedicated .22lr barrel).

After some initial teething issues it runs great and is surprisingly accurate.

YMMV.

[Bladewurk]

built my own dedicated M4 type with CMMG barrel and RTB bolt and collar and it runs fantastic

[AR22]

That looks like a fun setup shark..Nice

That is the great thing about assembling your own dedicated upper..Make it how you like it..

[GunHo]

Hello OP and fellow Calgunners. It's been a while. I'm guessing a couple of years since I logged in. I put a freeze on collecting, but mostly because my gun safe is full. Ok, back to the subject. So with the current high prices of 223/556 ammo, I starting looking into getting a dedicated AR for 22lr also. But since I have several AR's, I decided to switch one of them with the CMMG 22lr conversion kit. Read many reviews and most are positive. Just ordered so it should arrive by next week. Good luck

[AR22]

My very first foray into the .22 Long Rifle in an AR was a dropin conversion..My 5.56 barrel was a 1/9 twist..It shot fairly well..But it did not take me long to build a dedicated upper and swap out the chamber adapter for a dedicated collar, and buy a dedicated barrel...There are some out there that are plenty happy with a dropin in a 5.56 barrel..But most morph into a dedicated setup..But it is a good starting point to get going cheap if you already have a 5.56 upper..

Early on I had a USGI Air Force conversion for the M16..It was much better than the Army version..If I remember right also..The AF version atleast held the bolt back on the last round with the magazine follower..And the AF version would operate with a full auto M16..The Army version did neither..I should have kept that 90.00 AF conversion around, but was dumb and sold it..

Welcome back.

[Pistol_Ned]

I love the M&P 15-22. The kids love it also because it's light and easy to maneuver. They will run mag after mag through it without any problems on range trips. I have had people come up to me and comment about how reliable it runs. You can't beat it out of the box. It just works well.

[AR22]

All my assembled ARs in 22 also run 100% reliable..Reliability is not the issue I have with the SW..Problem with me is the part you mentioned..Light is just another code word for cheap plastic "light" construction...,LOL Good for the maker as they just have to injection mold a piece of plastic and maybe drill a few holes....And be done..Not so good for the end user..But a cheap process for the maker...Maybe the US Government should have SW start making the M16 in plastic,LOL Just think how the troops would appreciate the lightness of that plastic..

More power to those who love the SW. They are fun little toy, especially for the kids...I just like my AR22s to be more less Mil Spec, not a copy of a AR..I know my Aluminum lowers will last many lifetimes and the rest of the parts likely also....I highly doubt the plastic SW ones will make it 50 years with heavy use..As good as they say the new plastics are..They will never keep up with real metals..Just imagine if 1873 Colts and 1873 Winchesters would have used plastic parts..Think there would be many around today..Not likely..

Sorry if you want a real quality AR 22..You have to pony up the bucks and buy from a reputable maker..Or build it yourself..

[alpha_romeo_XV]

Swapped the handguard and flash hider on a CMMG 22LR upper. Lower is a Anderson multi cal stamped with nice 2 stage trigger and A1 grip. As close to an A1 retro as I wanted to put effort into making it. Blackdog mags and runs just fine with several hi-vel ammo brands.

[stormvet]

Originally Posted by AR22

All my assembled ARs in 22 also run 100% reliable..Reliability is not the issue I have with the SW..Problem with me is the part you mentioned..Light is just another code word for cheap plastic "light" construction...,LOL Good for the maker as they just have to injection mold a piece of plastic and maybe drill a few holes....And be done..Not so good for the end user..But a cheap process for the maker...Maybe the US Government should have SW start making the M16 in plastic,LOL Just think how the troops would appreciate the lightness of that plastic..

More power to those who love the SW. They are fun little toy, especially for the kids...I just like my AR22s to be more less Mil Spec, not a copy of a AR..I know my Aluminum lowers will last many lifetimes and the rest of the parts likely also....I highly doubt the plastic SW ones will make it 50 years with heavy use..As good as they say the new plastics are..They will never keep up with real metals..Just imagine if 1873 Colts and 1873 Winchesters would have used plastic parts..Think there would be many around today..Not likely..

Sorry if you want a real quality AR 22..You have to pony up the bucks and buy from a reputable maker..Or build it yourself..

It’s a 22lr ain’t nobody taking them to war they are range plinkers, even your metal ones. Nothing more nothing less, I got 7 real 556 metal AR’s sure as heck don’t need one in 22lr.

I think it’s cool that people like yourself enjoy building and owning metal 22lr AR’s. But for me it’s not something I care about, I save that for 556. A reliable plastic 22lr is just fine by me, besides Glock proved how durable and reliable plastic guns can be and my M&P has proven to be just that.

Another 300 flawless rounds fired with Remington Thunderturds this morning.

[AR22]

Alpha, that is really nice...I have contemplated a A1 Clone..I have a A1 upper receiver here..Just never started collecting additional parts yet..

[The Hamsterball]

They have a deal right now.

M&P 15-22 with included red/green dot non-magnifying sight.
$500 most places if not less by around $30-40.

Amazing rifle. Super easy to use. Quiet. Really easy to learn and service regularly.

If you do decide to get one. First things first.

Load it up. ADJUST THE OPTICS!
Look through the dot. Line it up left and right, as out of box they are not aligned.

If you are going to the range, there are 4 different distance adjustments. 25 meters apart.

Keep it set to 25meters, farthest click back.
Test 1-5 shots. Make sure it hits in line.

Enjoy!

[AR22]

Model 1 may have some A2 GP 20 inch barrels..

https://www.model1sales.com/index.cf...B4AB32.cfusion