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Old 02-03-2024, 5:06 PM
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Where are safe and also confidential places I could bring some MSR rifles, so that I could pay someone to examine them to advise on their level of compliance? I've bought several of them since 2010. They all pretty much became safe queens. For most of the last 10 years I've become apathetic and uninvolved with gun-related things in CA. But now, I would like to jumpstart my old hobbies, and I'm uncertain on what to do next.
What I'm getting at is, are there certain stores (such as Firearms Unknown) where I could feel free to bring in any MSR, and they'd examine it, and there would be no negative consequences for either me nor the store?
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I will be the first to admit that I know virtually nothing about the finer points of the Byzantine Commiefornia gun laws. But If I was in a firearms related business in that benighted socialist paradise, I wouldn't want to get anywhere near a potential situation that would endanger my livelihood or freedom.

I think your best bet for anonymity, which you have already potentially screwed up, would be to get a copy of the relative statutes and read them very carefully to determine if your rifles are legal or not. MY guess is that you are either going to have to do some sort of stupid magazine lock or make then featureless.
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My first quick scan is IF this is in fact a bolt rifle only with no means to go semi/full it should be GTG, It looks like my long range bolt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_MSR

DO NOT USE MY ADVICE

USE THIS: https://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

EDIT: Flash/Supp may be an issue fortunately those were fixed prior.

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What I'm getting at is, are there certain stores (such as Firearms Unknown) where I could feel free to bring in any MSR, and they'd examine it, and there would be no negative consequences for either me nor the store?
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Gun stores are a potential problem. I don't suggest taking them anywhere. I'll PM you.
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There is a flow chart here on top of page. Talk with Sparrow.. or feel free to pm me, i know enough to get you caught up on much of the BS
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Gun stores are a potential problem. I don't suggest taking them anywhere. I'll PM you.
Yeah, don't take them to a gun shop or anyone with an FFL. If ATF or DOJ threatens them, they will give you up like a used condom. They aren't going to give up their livelihood for you.
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Robert...

  1. There is no such thing as 'confidential' other than using a lawyer.
  2. Transporting a (possibly) illegal AW is an additional charge on top
    of illegal possession - the former is only a felony, the latter is at
    least a 'wobbler'. DON'T TRANSPORT.
  3. You have outed yourself on a public forum and increased your risk;
    there is little anonymity on the net.
  4. IMMEDIATELY DISASSEMBLE RIFLES of concern in an attempt to mitigate risk. ARs- separate uppers and lowers. AKs etc - get
    down to barreled actions without part.

    [Note that this may not help in specific situations or in SBR/SBS
    situations, but can mitigate AW stuff.]

    Also such manipulations do not erase prior crime(s) but at least
    make them far harder to prove.

    Quietly (cash) and rapidly acquiring 'compliance parts' for your various disassembled rifles. Helpful.

    [Remember that BulletButtons went away in 2016, and BulletButton
    guns are now AWs and had to be specially registered w CA DOJ
    summer 2018 IIRC.]
  5. Seriously, you need an atttorney ASAP.

    You need to act now. You opened a can of worms.

    Surrendering unmodifiable rifles is far cheaper/cleaner than
    paying for felony legal defense.
  6. As others have said (aside from my transport risk mention above)
    an FFL gunshop will not touch an illegal AW and an FFL with an AW
    permit may drop a dime on you.
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And no it is laid plainly for all to see the plan to criminalize everyday folk while actual criminals are coddled and loosed upon society.

Use the flowcharts!
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Is there a downside to separating the uppers from lowers, then taking the lowers to an FFL which could convert them to compliant configuration, followed by a trip with the uppers for the same treatment?
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Why would you go to a gun shop? Just look at how these big companies with LOTS OF MONEY FOR LEGAL ADVICE configure their rifles from the factory.

Springfield saint comes featureless from the factory. You can be assured they spent lots of money on legal council before offering this.

So does your rifle look like this? If not, make it look like this:

https://www.springfield-armory.com/s...-ca-compliant/
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Robert...

  1. There is no such thing as 'confidential' other than using a lawyer.
  2. Transporting a (possibly) illegal AW is an additional charge on top
    of illegal possession - the former is only a felony, the latter is at
    least a 'wobbler'. DON'T TRANSPORT.
  3. You have outed yourself on a public forum and increased your risk;
    there is little anonymity on the net.
  4. IMMEDIATELY DISASSEMBLE RIFLES of concern in an attempt to mitigate risk. ARs- separate uppers and lowers. AKs etc - get
    down to barreled actions without part.

    [Note that this may not help in specific situations or in SBR/SBS
    situations, but can mitigate AW stuff.]

    Also such manipulations do not erase prior crime(s) but at least
    make them far harder to prove.

    Quietly (cash) and rapidly acquiring 'compliance parts' for your various disassembled rifles. Helpful.

    [Remember that BulletButtons went away in 2016, and BulletButton
    guns are now AWs and had to be specially registered w CA DOJ
    summer 2018 IIRC.]
  5. Seriously, you need an atttorney ASAP.

    You need to act now. You opened a can of worms.

    Surrendering unmodifiable rifles is far cheaper/cleaner than
    paying for felony legal defense.
  6. As others have said (aside from my transport risk mention above)
    an FFL gunshop will not touch an illegal AW and an FFL with an AW
    permit may drop a dime on you.

You?re really telling someone they need a lawyer with this post? He didn?t admit to anything. This was his statement ?so that I could pay someone to examine them to advise on their level of compliance?. For all he knows, you know and I know, they are perfectly compliant. He was just asking if it was ok to bring them in to make sure. While that?s not a good idea and it?s better to research things here, he certainly hasn?t admitted to anything one way or another.
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AFT DGAF, these are kali laws involved.
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No offense to the OP.

Just read up on Fixed mag vs featureless rifles.

Thats it...

Except for BBRAW/RAW. Thats a bit different.
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You?re really telling someone they need a lawyer with this post? He didn?t admit to anything. This was his statement ?so that I could pay someone to examine them to advise on their level of compliance?. For all he knows, you know and I know, they are perfectly compliant. He was just asking if it was ok to bring them in to make sure. While that?s not a good idea and it?s better to research things here, he certainly hasn?t admitted to anything one way or another.

Dude,
1. He possibly 'baited' LE with this post. CGN is monitored. Ask me
how I know. Also this post is borderline 'statement against interest'

2. If he doesn't know and was 'out of circulation' for years, things
have changed and he may not be compliant.

3. Lawyer cheaper than fighting felonies. He also appears not to
want to delve into reading details here.

4. You apparently don't know that transporting an illegally configured
firearm (AW wise) risks a nonwobbler felony, vs simple possessioN
which can be treated as a wobbler with an AB2728 resolition

5. Lawyers can arrange w DA for surrender of illegal firearms to
'clear the decks'. Modifying a past illegal firearm merely brings
it into compliance and does require an elevated standard of proof
for prosecution but does not 'erase prior crime' if other evidence
and/or statements against interest were made.

RTFL.
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Dude,
1. He possibly 'baited' LE with this post. CGN is monitored. Ask me
how I know.
Well, now I'm curious. How do you know?
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